has Kessler ever faced a real pure "boxer"

im a fan of all of them, and each man has the abilitie's to beat the other, thats whats great, as for the dirrel vs froch fight, i havent seen many think dirrell will win, i do, because dirrell can outbox froch, he really can, and dirrell hits hard, he might even stop froch, but he's got to make sure he doesnt get into a war with froch, because he will lose. and andre vs kessler is very interesting, i was hopeing ward would fight AA or froch first to get more expireance, but he's gonna fight kes first, personally i think there the 2 best in the tourney, i dont have a clue who will win, but something tells me ward will find a way. with that said, i dont think any of the 6 fighters will come out of this thing without a loss, i think they'll all lose at some point at least once. i cant see ward beating kessler,a very bad match for him to start off with imo

Sorry for the confusion. I was replying to the original post. oh, lol, well cal is a good boxer no doubt, but kessler lost, and cal's defence is no the best.

what are you talking about, my post that you replyed has nothing to do with your post lol Sorry for the confusion. I was replying to the original post.

like the type of fighter that uses alot of defence, and sidesteps, slips, and counters, im only asking because im watch lots of his fights to see how good he really is, so far i gather that he is very good, against guys like andrade, Siaca, and beyer, beyer had a little ability, but didnt throw much, has he ever faced a real natural boxer??? if so, please upload video. also note this is not a hate thread, just a question. He attacks and goes back in a straight line, he uses no head movement. I will be interested to see how he copes with a fluid fighter like Dirrell or Ward.

Mundine was KTFO by the dreaded SVEN OTTKE:lol1: sven ottke is a joke lol :banana::rofl::dance:

Um, Calzaghe isn't a good boxer? Not a natural boxer? No countering ability? No side to side movement? How would you classify Calzaghe? what are you talking about, my post that you replyed has nothing to do with your post lol

the winner of this tourney is still gonna have alot of fights: green bika bute andrade damn, what a divison!!! Um, Calzaghe isn't a good boxer? Not a natural boxer? No countering ability? No side to side movement? How would you classify Calzaghe?

Yes, he has. Anthony "The Man" Mundine HILARIOUS!!!!!!! "The man" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's just that Miranda is such a different type of fighter than Kessler, but that might be the best way to judge him. Has he faced any quick guys? Miranda is such a cumbersome & poor boxer it's impossible to guage anything from his bout with Ward. Miranda although badass has the footwork of a newborn dear.

the winner of this tourney is still gonna have alot of fights: green bika bute andrade damn, what a divison!!!

How would you seed these guys? I'd have it: 1. Kessler 2. Froch 3. Ward 4. Dirrell 5. Abraham 6. Taylor Based on resumeés going in it would be something like this: Kessler Froch Taylor Abraham Ward Direll. I'm quite sure it wont end like this though. There will be upsets.

he's pretty much been in soft except against miranda, but in his fights you can see the natural talent, his chin is fine, the only time he got KD was becaz his legs were tangled, he was not even close to hurt, and your right about the jab thing, he hasent faced many with a good one. here's some of his fights: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JQ6GRVQN http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RJCQU8VD pas: unifiedchamp .com (no space) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KZHVB06V http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E65G8P4T to be onest dude am not sure! but i found some fights of his on the trading block here which could help! have a look! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243605&highlight=andre+ward http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231029&highlight=andre+ward http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190076&highlight=andre+ward Thanks a lot guys!!! Much appreciated. Karma given.

No the same answer for most fighters. :boxing:

like the type of fighter that uses alot of defence, and sidesteps, slips, and counters, im only asking because im watch lots of his fights to see how good he really is, so far i gather that he is very good, against guys like andrade, Siaca, and beyer, beyer had a little ability, but didnt throw much, has he ever faced a real natural boxer??? if so, please upload video. also note this is not a hate thread, just a question. Joe Calzaghe in 2007

1. Kessler 2. Abraham 3. Froch 4. Taylor 5. Ward 6. Dirrell Abraham that high?? Why??

How would you seed these guys? I'd have it: 1. Kessler 2. Froch 3. Ward 4. Dirrell 5. Abraham 6. Taylor 1. Kessler 2. Abraham 3. Froch 4. Taylor 5. Ward 6. Dirrell

It's just that Miranda is such a different type of fighter than Kessler, but that might be the best way to judge him. Has he faced any quick guys? to be onest dude am not sure! but i found some fights of his on the trading block here which could help! have a look! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243605&highlight=andre+ward http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231029&highlight=andre+ward http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190076&highlight=andre+ward

How would you seed these guys? I'd have it: 1. Kessler 2. Froch 3. Ward 4. Dirrell 5. Abraham 6. Taylor

As Flawless said Mundine is probably the slickest of the opponents Kessler has faced. Honest question as I know next to nothing about Ward: Has he ever faced anyone with a good left jab and how would you rate his chin? Can you recommend me a good Ward fight where I can gauge his skill so I can judge him fair? he's pretty much been in soft except against miranda, but in his fights you can see the natural talent, his chin is fine, the only time he got KD was becaz his legs were tangled, he was not even close to hurt, and your right about the jab thing, he hasent faced many with a good one. here's some of his fights: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JQ6GRVQN http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RJCQU8VD pas: unifiedchamp .com (no space) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KZHVB06V http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E65G8P4T

im a fan of all of them, and each man has the abilitie's to beat the other, thats whats great, as for the dirrel vs froch fight, i havent seen many think dirrell will win, i do, because dirrell can outbox froch, he really can, and dirrell hits hard, he might even stop froch, but he's got to make sure he doesnt get into a war with froch, because he will lose. and andre vs kessler is very interesting, i was hopeing ward would fight AA or froch first to get more expireance, but he's gonna fight kes first, personally i think there the 2 best in the tourney, i dont have a clue who will win, but something tells me ward will find a way. with that said, i dont think any of the 6 fighters will come out of this thing without a loss, i think they'll all lose at some point at least once. Dirrell has a chance to shock the world. I give him a great chance to win it all. He has speed, height, underated power, and skills. My only concern will be his stamina. He also has a style were it would be hard to get in the inside with him. I really do believe he has a great chance to win it all.