Pac-Cotto should happen @144

How many buys his two fights did with De La Hoya? I can't remember but I don't think they even crak 1 mill and Pacquiao can't touch De La Hoya when it comes to putting butts in seats. The first one did over 500,000. That was Shane's first time on PPV. The second fight did over 900,000. That's still a lot of PPV numbers imo. The first Vargas fight did close to 500,000. The Second Vargas and Cotto fight did over 3D0,000. Those are good #'s and only Tyson and Hoya can draw huge #'s over a mill. So for any fighter to crack over a mill besides those two, the best have to fight the best.

It seems you wree the only one who knows that DLH's corps will walk there before the fight.. LOL no one knows until that fight night happened what DLH can bring... Correction...i didnt say ME, i said THEY as in roach and his team..... of course everyone expected DLH to give a much better fight then that...probably including pacs team, but i mean they KNEW they could take the fight at 147 and still win, unlike taking a cotto at 147 which would be way to dangerous.... Get my point?

Big risk, small financial reward. When Cotto draws the same PPV amount as DLH, Pacman will fight him at 147 limit. To some people who keep saying Pac dont want to fight a healthy fighter cause he wont go higher, ask yourself if getting in the ring with an elite prime fighter weighing 12-15lbs more than you is healthy? there will be less than 10 pds diff. 147-155:boxing:

Pac will weigh 142 and Cotto will weigh 147 during weigh-in... tell me it's fair and I will stfu.. And don't tell me pac will weigh more than 142 because that's the maximum weight he can have during the DLH fight... and 148 at fight night.... now tell me if it is fair.. cotto will weight at 145 same he did vs clottey fight night will be around 155. manny around 147-48. i dont see that much difference. height, reach almost the same. why all this complaining now whe you have fighters like paul "the freak" williams at 147 and his weight on fight night is around 170???? i dont hear all these complaints when that happens :boxing:

pac fought at 147...and weighed in at 142 was it?.... lol....tht was against DLH...they knew DLH is no match compared to cotto....i mean, at least they are respecting cotto as a boxer, they arnt going to put themselves in a position to be more likely to lose... anyway pac said he didnt want it at 143 didnt he? All this speculation started from all these recent posts...why not wait till the man actually states something himself? then you can say hes acting scared or whtever u all wanna say.... It seems you wree the only one who knows that DLH's corps will walk there before the fight.. LOL no one knows until that fight night happened what DLH can bring...

Big risk, small financial reward. When Cotto draws the same PPV amount as DLH, Pacman will fight him at 147 limit. To some people who keep saying Pac dont want to fight a healthy fighter cause he wont go higher, ask yourself if getting in the ring with an elite prime fighter weighing 12-15lbs more than you is healthy?

No need to debate, just answer this question... Who is healthy, the one who lose weight or the one who gain weight? We are talking about a maximum of 5 pounds here (plus/minus) and not 10 pounds. To all people who believes Cotto losing 1-2 pounds will gonna get killed are just plain stupids... My normal weight is 155 and sometimes I drop to 152 without having any problem... but when my appetite is good and adding 3 to 4 lbs to my weight, I feel breathing difficulty even when walking... Adding weight is more difficult than losing 2 to 3lbs... The fight should happen at 144 to be fair in both sides... nope. cotto needs to move on... if he cant get him @ 145 he should move on get a new promoter and keep making money.. and pac.. well, he can get handled by sugar shane @ 143 for less money.

a fair weight is 145. cottos nutritionist already said it. 144 will be a risk for MC . i like both fighters but manny is def looking like a bitch right now...well maybe not manny but his team is talking too much shit :boxing: I don't have any problem at 145... but demanding 147 is too much... and 143 is also too much for cotto.. I'm just fair..

thats the thing, pac already fought at 147 and looked good at it. so why now he cant do it??? they want the easy route of fighting dehydrated mommies hopefully cotto will not give in to that bs :boxing: pac fought at 147...and weighed in at 142 was it?.... lol....tht was against DLH...they knew DLH is no match compared to cotto....i mean, at least they are respecting cotto as a boxer, they arnt going to put themselves in a position to be more likely to lose... anyway pac said he didnt want it at 143 didnt he? All this speculation started from all these recent posts...why not wait till the man actually states something himself? then you can say hes acting scared or whtever u all wanna say....

He already fought at 147!!! Unless you as a Pac fan say that ODLH was a meaningless fight at 147 because he was weight drained and way past his prime then Pac has already shown that he can fight at 147. Yes he can... but look at at figure man and don't base your comment on the quality of opposition... pac at 148 vs Cotto at 158 to 160 is murder... now tell me if it is fair.. DLH fight was an exhibition...

thats the thing, pac already fought at 147 and looked good at it. so why now he cant do it??? they want the easy route of fighting dehydrated mommies hopefully cotto will not give in to that bs :boxing: Pac will weigh 142 and Cotto will weigh 147 during weigh-in... tell me it's fair and I will stfu.. And don't tell me pac will weigh more than 142 because that's the maximum weight he can have during the DLH fight... and 148 at fight night.... now tell me if it is fair..

So it is ok for pac to gain weight because he did not look slow but ok for cotto because he looks washed up losing 1 pound? I don't think so.. Pac's weight has limitations and we all know that he can never make it at 150 fight night against a bigger Cotto... Maximizing your weight against a live opponent is suicide..He already fought at 147!!! Unless you as a Pac fan say that ODLH was a meaningless fight at 147 because he was weight drained and way past his prime then Pac has already shown that he can fight at 147.

A fair weight or no fight... a fair weight is 145. cottos nutritionist already said it. 144 will be a risk for MC . i like both fighters but manny is def looking like a bitch right now...well maybe not manny but his team is talking too much shit :boxing:

He wants Cotto to come out like a corpse. LOL, corpse after losing 3 lbs... wtf... you must remember pac weighted 142lbs during DLH weigh in and that's the highest weight he can reach... now you are demanding 147?... dumb, just dumb.. If pac weighted 145lbs during weigh in against DLH, I won't argue... but for gods sake, it's 142...

Pacquiao vs Mosley will not do good on PPV. Mosley is not a draw he's never been a draw. Hatton is a way bigger draw and his fight with Pacquiao only did 800K, so a fight with Mosley is not going to do much better specialy when you don't have most of the east coast viewers. Agree to disagree big dogg. Shane imo is a bigger draw than we think. If you have 2 of the best fighting against eack other it will always do well. East Coast viewers will pay to see that fight. Its Pac Man vs Sugar. Its not like nobody knows who Shane is. I think you'll be suprised with the numbers. The fight with Cotto, Shane gained fans even in a lsoing effort. I also know from the fight with Margo he gaines a lot more fans.

Pacquiao didn't look slow or sluggish against ODLH at all and he jumped 12 pounds for that fight. Putting on 2-3 pounds in gurth is bad but Pacman will put on lean muscle so let's not use that as an excuse. Let's see if the 9 pounds that JMM will put on to fight Moneymay will make him slow. Better question did Pacman look slow in his rise to 135 also? That was a 5 pound increase in his destruction of Diaz. Pacman will be fine at that weight since weight gains have never been as issue before and he looked beastly at 140. thats the thing, pac already fought at 147 and looked good at it. so why now he cant do it??? they want the easy route of fighting dehydrated mommies hopefully cotto will not give in to that bs :boxing:

what else do you want cotto to give in??? weight, money, place...what else buddy???? A fair weight or no fight...

It takes 2 to tango boy and Cotto is the biggest fight Pacquiao can make right now. Go ahead fight Mosley so I can LMAO when the PPV numbers come out. I aint seen so much hate on other people, you are by far the biggest cotto nuthugger on here lol... Pac vs Mosley would still get huge PPV numbers.... Any fight pac is in right now will....Now your saying 147 or nothing, yet yday your tallkin about how much cotto deserves the top fight...why should pac have to go up a complete weight division....145 is by far more then fair for cotto....if its below that i can understand peoples view if they think its not right...but even 144 would be that bad....i mean, for god sake pac weighed in 142 for the de la hoya fight lol....aint gona be much different in this one..

Pacquiao didn't look slow or sluggish against ODLH at all and he jumped 12 pounds for that fight. Putting on 2-3 pounds in gurth is bad but Pacman will put on lean muscle so let's not use that as an excuse. Let's see if the 9 pounds that JMM will put on to fight Moneymay will make him slow. Better question did Pacman look slow in his rise to 135 also? That was a 5 pound increase in his destruction of Diaz. Pacman will be fine at that weight since weight gains have never been as issue before and he looked beastly at 140. So it is ok for pac to gain weight because he did not look slow but ok for cotto because he looks washed up losing 1 pound? I don't think so.. Pac's weight has limitations and we all know that he can never make it at 150 fight night against a bigger Cotto... Maximizing your weight against a live opponent is suicide..

He can do what he want... if you want big payday, dance with his music.. or stay away if you don't want with his terms... dumb, just dumb what else do you want cotto to give in??? weight, money, place...what else buddy????