he's not taller or bigger.
Wow, are you mentally retarded? Look at the first picture. Froch is clearly taller. Wouldn't surprise me if he had a superior physique in general to be honest. Kessler would make a good child bearer.
I think both fighters have almost a slight smirk on their faces. I think Froch is pleased he realises he is bigger than Kessler and Kessler is almost smiling because he now has three big fights lined up!
froch is not bigger than kessler.
I'm going with Kessler if this thing unravels the way it's supposed to, Froch is good but a bit overrated (he was looking very bad vs Taylor, he showed a lot of heart though) and i don't know if Abraham will have the same power on bigger guys.
every blind man and his dog has known that AA has been planning to move to SMW before the froch/pascal fight. bute was a titlist before froch and pascal faced each other and the dawson offer was made. not only that but before the froch vs pascal fight had been made JT had already moved up and fouguht lacy.
now im not sure when dawson made an offer for kess at LHW but if it was t the time of the froch/pascal showdown then SMW was stacked. taylor and bute were already established names in the division, whats more froch/pascal would produce another big name and titlist and other big names like miranda and bika.
lets say for a second that SMW was not stacked with fighters and big names, can anyone begrudge kess's aim of unifying SMW first and then moving onto LHW? its not as though LHW is going anywhere is it?
anyway as for kess vs dawson, you can hold me to that, kess will in by KO if he goes up in weight the right way.
The negotiations was in march, april this year.
Reasoning with Flawless is futile BTW.
bat i agree with alot of your posts and you always seem pretty well informed but i think you're being a little harsh on dawson. i can see why you might think dawson is being hypocritical but he does have a good reason.
at the time of him calling out certain SMW's (kess in particular) he still had the likes of calzaghe and hopkin whom he could have fought at LHW. however their retirement (or ducking in hopkins case) meant that he didn't have any big fights at LHW and was willing to sacrifice more to make the fights with the SMW's.
imo dawson should have tried to make fights with the SMW's at 172 or 173 and if that didn't work out then he should concentrate on the LHW scene. unify the titles and establish yourself as the LHW champ and then when the likes of kess, bute and froch do move up he knows that the will be the guy to fight and will be in a good position at the negotiating table as well.
dawson can no longer make 168 imo, vs tarver he looked alot bigger than before, if he could make 168 before i think he could barely make 172 now.
I like Dawson a lot actually. He just makes the strangest career decisions in boxing today.
The offer was made before Froch-Pascal even made or happened. AA wasn't thinking SMW back then, but was thinking more about Pavlik.
SMW has been hot for a few years now?? :lol1:
AA and Taylor just moved into the division this year. Dirrel and Ward were considered as prospect at the start of the year.
Kessler is 30. How long will the tournament take. But the end of the tournament he will be 32. Not exactly young, now is it. Kessler couldn't KO Mundine, yet he will KO Dawson :lol1:
I like you confidence in Kessler, he doesn't have much self-belief.
every blind man and his dog has known that AA has been planning to move to SMW before the froch/pascal fight. bute was a titlist before froch and pascal faced each other and the dawson offer was made. not only that but before the froch vs pascal fight had been made JT had already moved up and fouguht lacy.
now im not sure when dawson made an offer for kess at LHW but if it was t the time of the froch/pascal showdown then SMW was stacked. taylor and bute were already established names in the division, whats more froch/pascal would produce another big name and titlist and other big names like miranda and bika.
lets say for a second that SMW was not stacked with fighters and big names, can anyone begrudge kess's aim of unifying SMW first and then moving onto LHW? its not as though LHW is going anywhere is it?
anyway as for kess vs dawson, you can hold me to that, kess will in by KO if he goes up in weight the right way.
Froch looks like he tries to get to Kessler in the first photo.......Froch is sizin' him up :lol1:
I think both fighters have almost a slight smirk on their faces. I think Froch is pleased he realises he is bigger than Kessler and Kessler is almost smiling because he now has three big fights lined up!
The offer was made before Froch-Pascal even made or happened. AA wasn't thinking SMW back then, but was thinking more about Pavlik.
SMW has been hot for a few years now?? :lol1:
AA and Taylor just moved into the division this year. Dirrel and Ward were considered as prospect at the start of the year.
Kessler is 30. How long will the tournament take. But the end of the tournament he will be 32. Not exactly young, now is it. Kessler couldn't KO Mundine, yet he will KO Dawson :lol1:
I like you confidence in Kessler, he doesn't have much self-belief.
'Welcome' back Flawless.
It's more interesting that Dawson wouldn't face Kessler at 172 and now wants to drop all the way down to 168. :wtf:
bat i agree with alot of your posts and you always seem pretty well informed but i think you're being a little harsh on dawson. i can see why you might think dawson is being hypocritical but he does have a good reason.
at the time of him calling out certain SMW's (kess in particular) he still had the likes of calzaghe and hopkin whom he could have fought at LHW. however their retirement (or ducking in hopkins case) meant that he didn't have any big fights at LHW and was willing to sacrifice more to make the fights with the SMW's.
imo dawson should have tried to make fights with the SMW's at 172 or 173 and if that didn't work out then he should concentrate on the LHW scene. unify the titles and establish yourself as the LHW champ and then when the likes of kess, bute and froch do move up he knows that the will be the guy to fight and will be in a good position at the negotiating table as well.
dawson can no longer make 168 imo, vs tarver he looked alot bigger than before, if he could make 168 before i think he could barely make 172 now.
Because Dawson thinks he is God's gift to boxing because HBO and his handler's have fed him that crap, that's why.
Infact, Dawson, while a very good boxer, is fighting washed up old fighters in front of tiny crowds in the middle of no where.
cant wait for this, gota give alot of respect to all these guys for putting there necks on the line, Keesler wins it for me but AA could be the dark horse here, the man is hard as nails and is fairly skillfull although judging by that video you might not think so looked like a dick with the umberela hat on lol, Froch sadly aint got the skills to win this but he has the heart but Kesslers heart is just as big and he is the bigger man with better skills
Here you go:
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http://boxen.com/uploads/RTEmagicC_KesslerAbrahamFroch2.jpg.jpg
This is going to be AWESOME.
Didn't realise Froch was significantly taller than Kessler.
Froch looks like he tries to get to Kessler in the first photo.......Froch is sizin' him up :lol1:
This offer was made way before. Even before Froch-Pascal. Kessler was doing the usual and fighting a bum when Dawson made the offer. The best young SMW vs the best young LHW. Who would not want to watch it. It was going to be on HBO
It was before Dawson decided to give Tarver a rematch. HBO wanted the fight. Kessler offered a catchweight of 170 and later 172. The catchweight made sense considering the risk/reward for both fighters. The loser could still head home after the fight and make money defending the belt.
Dawson rejected saying he only wanted to fight at 175. Now please explain why he he last month suddenly says he wanted the big fights at 168?
This offer was made way before. Even before Froch-Pascal. Kessler was doing the usual and fighting a bum when Dawson made the offer. The best young SMW vs the best young LHW. Who would not want to watch it. It was going to be on HBO
your argument doesn't hold water, why would kess want to go north 7 lbs and miss out on fighting the winner of froch-pascal, miss out on AA moving up and possibly pavlik as well, why would he want to miss out on bute?
SMW has been looking like a really hot division for a few years now
dont worry kess vs dawson will be made im pretty sure of it, and when it does its good night dawson
Interesting. All suddenly Kessler is a Huge SMW. Are we talking about the same Kessler. The Kessler who said no to Dawson at 175 on HBO. Just 7 pounds north.
It's more interesting that Dawson wouldn't face Kessler at 172 and now wants to drop all the way down to 168. :wtf:
Interesting. All suddenly Kessler is a Huge SMW. Are we talking about the same Kessler. The Kessler who said no to Dawson at 175 on HBO. Just 7 pounds north.
judging by how stacked the SMW division is why woud anyone want to go north just because of one fight?
dawson isn't going anywhere, why not take care of bute, froch, AA and taylor first and then concentrate on LHW (dawson, pascal, cloud, johnson)