JuanMa is going to fight in October, and BoB Arum is all about the money and the exposure. Caballero last 5 fights had been outside the US. He has gotten "ZERO EXPOSURE". We know who he is, but the casual fan that pays the good money to watch JuanMa will be more interested in watching JuanMa vs. Gamboa, Molitor, and probably the mexican Escalante. Don't forget that Jeffrey Mathebula got robbed against Caballero, even recognized by the Panamanian commentators during the fight.
I would love to watch JuanMa KOing Caballero more than any other fight. I would like to see Celestino kissing his over-rated-"p4p"-ass in the canvas. But, if a fight against a Gamboa, Molitor or an Escalante brings more money to the table, I may understand the move by JuanMa's team. But at some point in the future, if Caballero still is considered a threat to be recon with, JuanMa should KO this fool. Then again, Caballero may get his sorry-over-rated-ass exposed before fighting JuanMa.
Come on, repeat after me... "Ma-the-bu-la", Yes! That skinny ass African was robbed after clearly and convincingly beating Caballero in Panama. I got no respect for Caballero. Only hardcore fans know him and... When was the last time Caballero was the main event on a card in the US??? Please answer me.
Caballero es un perro sato buscando comer un "filet mignon" del plato de Juanma. Caballero me chupa la verga. Que se valla al carajo!!!
If Caballero has had zero exposure and he fought in prime time on Showtime, how much has Lontchi had?
Arum has said every single time he's spoken about it that Lopez-Gamboa will happen next year, not in October. Who gives a shit about Molitor except for a few Canadians? And who the f*ck is the mexican Escalante?
Keep trying to justify this blatant ducking because CC will keep embarrassing Lopez (a.k.a his prom date) every chance he gets.
It's good to know that you speak for the casual fan though so I know who to ask when I want to know what they're thinking.
Read all post before typing nonsnese.
why are people making excuses for juanma. sound like a bunch of mayweathers saying cotto isn't popular enough or mosley has 5 losses blah blah blah
unless juanma isn't fighting vasquez or marquez at 122 there is only caballero left as a credible opponent unless michael jennings can weight drain enough to make 122.
JuanMa is going to fight in October, and BoB Arum is all about the money and the exposure. Caballero last 5 fights had been outside the US. He has gotten "ZERO EXPOSURE". We know who he is, but the casual fan that pays the good money to watch JuanMa will be more interested in watching JuanMa vs. Gamboa, Molitor, and probably the mexican Escalante. Don't forget that Jeffrey Mathebula got robbed against Caballero, even recognized by the Panamanian commentators during the fight.
If Caballero has had zero exposure and he fought in prime time on Showtime, how much has Lontchi had?
Arum has said every single time he's spoken about it that Lopez-Gamboa will happen next year, not in October. Who gives a shit about Molitor except for a few Canadians? And who the f*ck is the mexican Escalante?
Keep trying to justify this blatant ducking because CC will keep embarrassing Lopez (a.k.a his prom date) every chance he gets.
It's good to know that you speak for the casual fan though so I know who to ask when I want to know what they're thinking.
JuanMa showed he could take Oliver's punches. Against Caballero, he will be more careful. You will see him boxing more than his usual. You will witness a mix of talent, power and skills over only power.
He fought out of the corner like 6 times and backed him up.
Lontchi was dirty and JuanMa won just fine.
But it won't be easy with Panama's finest pugilist throwing blistering crazy right hands at JuanMa's head.
I know it's cool to like JuanMa, but he ain't king yet.
I agree with you. I think Juanma really needs to figure how not to let that aggression go uncontrolled. Once juanma thought he got Lontchi in the corner, he forgot his defense. Lontchi was suckering him to be out of defensive position and got him when juanma is doing combos. I would hate to think what would happen if Cabellero is one doing what Lontchi did.
I'm a juanma fan though. Hope he will be a beast in the future.:davil2:
JuanMa is going to fight in October, and BoB Arum is all about the money and the exposure. Caballero last 5 fights had been outside the US. He has gotten "ZERO EXPOSURE". We know who he is, but the casual fan that pays the good money to watch JuanMa will be more interested in watching JuanMa vs. Gamboa, Molitor, and probably the mexican Escalante. Don't forget that Jeffrey Mathebula got robbed against Caballero, even recognized by the Panamanian commentators during the fight.
I would love to watch JuanMa KOing Caballero more than any other fight. I would like to see Celestino kissing his over-rated-"p4p"-ass in the canvas. But, if a fight against a Gamboa, Molitor or an Escalante brings more money to the table, I may understand the move by JuanMa's team. But at some point in the future, if Caballero still is considered a threat to be recon with, JuanMa should KO this fool. Then again, Caballero may get his sorry-over-rated-ass exposed before fighting JuanMa.
Come on, repeat after me... "Ma-the-bu-la", Yes! That skinny ass African was robbed after clearly and convincingly beating Caballero in Panama. I got no respect for Caballero. Only hardcore fans know him and... When was the last time Caballero was the main event on a card in the US??? Please answer me.
Caballero es un perro sato buscando comer un "filet mignon" del plato de Juanma. Caballero me chupa la verga. Que se valla al carajo!!!
Only a blind fan would justify this sorry ass shit, put the bong down man....
He fought out of the corner like 6 times and backed him up.
Lontchi was dirty and JuanMa won just fine.
But it won't be easy with Panama's finest pugilist throwing blistering crazy right hands at JuanMa's head.
I know it's cool to like JuanMa, but he ain't king yet.
JuanMa is able to stand toe to toe and exchange with Caballero. But he also is very able to outbox Celestino. I don't see JuanMa losing to Caba, period. But that's just my personal opinion.
I would love to see them fight in October. Let JuanMa move up as an undisputed champ. I am pissed with Bobby. He is focking it up for the real boxing fans. No matter what, Caballero hitted the ceiling and from now on, he will keep fighting bums. The money is on Gamboa, JuanMa, Marquez, and Izzy.
I wish Caballero could fight JuanMa.
I am hoping it's at 126.
I think Caballero has outgrown 122 at this point.
If Lontchi can back JuanMa up, I have faith Cab can definitely get him.
Lontchi "backed up" JuanMa??? In which fight??? Cause in June 27th, Oliver ran like Forrest Gump until JuanMa cought up with him and KOed this "Canadien Marathon Undefeated Man".
For the record, Pavlik messed up the June 27 PPV... JuanMa try to fixed it, but the PPV was not as good as expected... The Ortiz fight took most of the fans by surprise!
Whoa whoa calm down, shit.... I said if its bob arum not letting that fight happen than why should peaple go easy on juanma when Chavez jr. and Pavlik have been calling big names out too but they both fight bums. the peaple on here tear them apart for it. All of them are in the same situation and it makes them look bad.
Juanma is not off the hook. That's why we are arguing back and forth. Chavez Jr. is a fockng joke. Pavlik is already a big name that should had fought Abraham long ago. JuanMa is on his way to the top. We all agree he should fight Caballero, but in the case of a money driven sport, i could settle for Gamboa, Molitor, Escalante, Marquez, Izzy and Caballero. As long as he doesn't fight another unknown Canadien, I am cool with it.
Back to my main subject. Two questions for you:
1) Did Caballero beat Mathebula? Did you see the fight?
2) When was caballero the main event in a good card in the US?
JDUBB, still waiting for you to answer this....
OK, let me put it more simple. (for the dumbazzes who can't type with sense...
Would you like to see JuanMa against Molitor?
Escalante?
Gamboa?
Marquez?
Izzy?
Or is it that Caballero is the only option to get a good matchup?
He took the lotnchi fight on short notice and a moth after he fought Penalosa he fought lonchi fool. That was a PPV saving. he was saving Arums ass some money and the PPV, and nobody was available anways. Cant make Chocolate Cake pout of shit dude!!!
He is the one not letting Juanma FIght Caballero fool!!!!!!
Whoa whoa calm down, shit.... I said if its bob arum not letting that fight happen than why should peaple go easy on juanma when Chavez jr. and Pavlik have been calling big names out too but they both fight bums. the peaple on here tear them apart for it. All of them are in the same situation and it makes them look bad.
Why am I not surprised by a fighter from the Island is ducking a tall fighter. Are Ricans fighters scared of tall fighters like Williams and Caballero
another genuis post from the resident flamer.don't you got some gay orgy to attend you dumbass?
oh yeah... everyone knew who lontichi was rite? Caballero is a unified champ that holds two belts at 122. juanma says he wants to unify the division well thats a good way to do it.... And if Juanma does want to fight big names but bob dont let him, Why should the fans go easy on juanma when Chavez jr. and Pavlik (vs Abraham) are in the same situation but no one lets them off the hook.
Juanma is not off the hook. That's why we are arguing back and forth. Chavez Jr. is a fockng joke. Pavlik is already a big name that should had fought Abraham long ago. JuanMa is on his way to the top. We all agree he should fight Caballero, but in the case of a money driven sport, i could settle for Gamboa, Molitor, Escalante, Marquez, Izzy and Caballero. As long as he doesn't fight another unknown Canadien, I am cool with it.
Back to my main subject. Two questions for you:
1) Did Caballero beat Mathebula? Did you see the fight?
2) When was caballero the main event in a good card in the US?
caballero is an unneeded risk for a prospect.
lopez just got his belt last year.
the plan is get him a few "look good" fights to get the buzz going.
once the buzz gets going (which jml is now getting) then you can make big fights with big names that can make jml a big name as well.
caballero does nothing for jml right now. why cause he has a belt? lopez has one too.
arum knows a lot more than any of you guys.
that's how his fighters become big names and get involved in big fights.
he's a champion.so is caballero.arum should know more than us "guys" he's been around a long time.bob arum cares about money.he doesn't give a shit about consistently making great fights.he's a promoter.i give two shits about that.i wanna a great fight.
oh yeah... everyone knew who lontichi was rite? Caballero is a unified champ that holds two belts at 122. juanma says he wants to unify the division well thats a good way to do it.... And if Juanma does want to fight big names but bob dont let him, Why should the fans go easy on juanma when Chavez jr. and Pavlik (vs Abraham) are in the same situation but no one lets them off the hook.