ive noticed a few of you debating this in other threads
lets have an official poll!
i personally dont think cotto is as skilled, he's a very good fighter no doubt but P4P marquez beats the hell out of him.
Simple answer.... NO.
You PRs need to knock the overrated shit off. Cotto is good but he does not match JMM in skills. Cotto has power, jab and defense. JMM has everything else.... who has more skills? Exactly.
Its tough to compare because both guys have fought different opposition up to this point in their careers.
Marquez made a name for himself with both fights against Pacquiao along with fights with MAB and as of recent Juan Diaz. He's a great counterpuncher and is very durable as where Cotto is somewhat of a sharpshooter / Boxer Puncher who knows how to switch up, but is questioned by his stamina and ability to take a beating and keep going.
Both guys have very good skill sets, but they've fought different types of fighters where it becomes too tough to measure what one guy could do say against a guy like Diaz who's style was more taylor made for JMM as to where Clottey is a nightmare matchup for anyone in that division just off of his style (not necessarily power).
Why not put Cotto and Marquez in the ring to find out (or is that too much for Marquez :dunno:)?
This topic has been talked about at least once every seven days for the past several weeks. But I don't think Cotto would be too much for Marquez to answer your question. I've explained why I think Cotto loses to JMM. He wouldn't be able to deal with those uppercuts coming from different angles. This is coming from someone who doesn't like Floyd. I just call it how I see it.
Its tough to compare because both guys have fought different opposition up to this point in their careers.
Marquez made a name for himself with both fights against Pacquiao along with fights with MAB and as of recent Juan Diaz. He's a great counterpuncher and is very durable as where Cotto is somewhat of a sharpshooter / Boxer Puncher who knows how to switch up, but is questioned by his stamina and ability to take a beating and keep going.
Both guys have very good skill sets, but they've fought different types of fighters where it becomes too tough to measure what one guy could do say against a guy like Diaz who's style was more taylor made for JMM as to where Clottey is a nightmare matchup for anyone in that division just off of his style (not necessarily power).
Why not put Cotto and Marquez in the ring to find out (or is that too much for Marquez :dunno:)?
As one of the biggest Cotto fans here I don't believe that Cotto is as skilled as JMM. Marquez has impecable timing and knowledge of when to throw and what to throw that I find fascinating. His skill is a direct link to his intelligence in the ring and there is no doubt that he is probably the smartest boxer or one of the smartest right now.
No, you are talking about how textbook he is.
Skills, are a different thing form technicallity!!!!!!!!!!!
For example, look how skill RRJ was, but techniacally wise he was horrendus!!!!!!!
lol you're contradicting yourself...how can you be considered good technically if you are not skilled. skills are what you gain from training and experience and for you to do that you have to go through the technical aspect of boxing. obviously you don't understand what you're saying.
No, Marquez's skillset is superior to Cottos imo.
That doesn't mean Cotto cannot beat Pacquiao, He has something over Pacquiao that Marquez didn't have and that is a clear power and size advantage.
Stylistically, both fighters are tough fights for Pacquiao.
cotto is very skilled offensively....defensively, he can improve. but offensively, he has enough movement, and he's quick enough to where some of his fights are alot tougher than they should be.'
right or wrong, cotto fights for the fans, and he tries to put on a show for them, even when it can be sometimes to his detriment.
all that aside, cotto has heart too....attribututes (height, weight, reach) can be measured, skill can be measured, heart can't.
I thought my new user name and title would've fooled all you.
Having said that, when my plan is up this year, I might upgrade to the yuppie, hipster scumbag Iphone too.
The coolness is just too irresistible.
i have an iPhone and i dont fit into that criteria
........ right? lol
I thought my new user name and title would've fooled all you.
Having said that, when my plan is up this year, I might upgrade to the yuppie, hipster scumbag Iphone too.
The coolness is just too irresistible.
Get a bold. Unless you are a degenerate.
Reported for racism...and for mocking a the national drink of a nation.:nono:
Racism, how so? Being uncomfortable and wantign to pray to god is not racism, also their tea sucks.
Its not bad. I got it because I stupidly (at the time) thought it was a legitimate Iphone competitor especially for web surfing.
But the web surfing is average. Its got good speed, but it doesn't give you the "real web" like the Iphone does, it gives you "cell phone" web. Aside from that, the phone is good. Good phone quality, good touchpad sensitivity, you can set up your email accounts to it etc.
All in all a good phone for the price, but not an Iphone by any means.
lol, cool thanks for the answer. Probably going to get ripped for asking you...so what !"peeleft:
Its not bad. I got it because I stupidly (at the time) thought it was a legitimate Iphone competitor especially for web surfing.
But the web surfing is average. Its got good speed, but it doesn't give you the "real web" like the Iphone does, it gives you "cell phone" web. Aside from that, the phone is good. Good phone quality, good touchpad sensitivity, you can set up your email accounts to it etc.
All in all a good phone for the price, but not an Iphone by any means.
my iphone 3G rapes you, not your phone
you
Currently P4P? Yes, except for Cotto. Cotto and Hopkins should not be mentioned in the same breath. true. Damn dude, you sound angry. Don't be stressing so much. Smile :nono:
Exactly, some people here are too far up Cotto's ass to realize this. It doesn't mean that Cotto isn't a good boxer, it's just hard to find someone better than JMM.
When you look at Manny vs JMM, Manny has all the power and speed on his side, yet JMM made a fight of it with his skills alone.
JMM is a master in the ring and that's no bullshit...
ANd how about the case of Cotto and Shane Mosley?
Mosley was also Faster and Stronger than Cotto and 99.9 of the boxing world had Cotto Winning the fight.
JMM is one of the best elite fighters out there but Juan Diaz was hitting him flush just the fact that Juan Diaz doesn't hit that hard made all the difference in that fight.