When there was none of them when Pac 1st burst to the scene... Heck until now there are no great african-american boxers that are in the 126-130-135 division... Who was this ATG black fighter that PAC run away from????
And did people already forget that Pac fought MAB/EM/JMM back to back to back and did pretty well... Who in the ****in world would have survived that????:boxing::boxing:
its not a race pac has been ducking, and with pac ducking i mean his team, pac will fight anyone they put him infront of him. Its his team that has avoided fighters that would give him trouble. anyways.. they have been ducking slick fighters. when he came to 135 he had lineal champ, ATG and HOFer joel casamayor, he has WBA, IBF, WBO champ nate campbell, and then he has one of the weakest titlists in all of boxing david diaz. david diaz is a head first fighter, casamyor and campbell are slick boxers. who did he fight? can anyone make a argument why diaz is better on his resume than casamayor?
then we have ofcourse guzman, not saying he had to fight guzman. but i dont think its a coincidence it never happened considering the pattern. then raheem, now thats a duck. morales beats pac, raheem beats morales, pac fights.. morales.. huh? what if tarver had fought roy a third time after he got stretched by johnson, and never given johnson a shot. thats what pac did to raheem, and its not right. ducking fighters like that and robbing fans of must happen type fights (like he is with JMM as we speak) is hurting the sport.
im not saying pac isnt a warrior, he is. im just saying he needs to step the hell up and tell roach and arum and all these other dudes who treat him like a child that hes the boss, and that he wants to fight the best. i cant stand this "its up to my promoter" BS. thats how BS fights like pac-cotto happen, BS fights that mainstream fans want to see. ppl are calling him great, great fighter can adapt to any style. i want to see him fight a slick fighter for the first time in his career.
idiots say that pac should have fought raheem instead of having a rematch with morales. what black people dont realize is that pac had an unfinished business with morales not raheem. and if we will take this argument, just in case juan diaz was able to beat marquez it will be irrelevant for pac-marquez to have a 3rd fight cause he will have to fight juan instead :lol1:
When there was none of them when Pac 1st burst to the scene... Heck until now there are no great african-american boxers that are in the 126-130-135 division... Who was this ATG black fighter that PAC run away from????
And did people already forget that Pac fought MAB/EM/JMM back to back to back and did pretty well... Who in the ****in world would have survived that????:boxing::boxing:
These are just taunts from fighters like Mosley, Campbell and others who wants a mega fight before Cotto.
Funny though, only PBF doesn`t complain about this, I wonder why.
BTW, Pacquiao hasn`t fought Fil-Americans, Italian-Americans and others, I think, but it doesn`t mean he`s intentionally ducking them.
It just so happens.
this subject is gettin' too many threads!!!!!......Manny Pac ducks NOBODY!!!......the lil' dude is as big a warrior as any in the sport.......stop this hateful and unhealthy bullshit!!!......I am black and I don't see too many brothers beatin' Pac......Mosley and Mayweather is about the only 2 with a REASONABLE chance at fightin' him and winnin'.....P-Williams is WAY too big......to put his name there as just wack!!!.....Nate and Tim are good but Pac is better than them both.......Get Real!!!
this is true.... cotto can beat pac, however unlikely it seems..... floydd is the harder fight, the bigger fight, and the highest paying fight out there.... and if can pull out a victory, he blemishes floyds record, and earns the right to say hes the best, and can surely retire as a hof'er, maybe an atg
doubt it.
i really don't think manny cares about any opponent.
roach and arum worries about who he fights more than he does.
i heard that he's been lagging on signing the cotto fight because he'd prefer the bigger fight with mayweather.
obviously though it's not possible unless may backs out of the jmm fight.
cotto should fight mosey, and pac should fight floyd..... fukk jmm
kadyo and the other guys from philippines says the rumor is over there that cotto might be his last fight.
he's running in a congressional election next year.
yea i thought so too, i knew he wouldnt fight floyd. manny shouldnt retire though, not yet
So what is it? Is he is too small to fight WWs or he cant Make 140?
Cant get both excuses at the same time!!!!!!!!!
lol i love the word excuses......... there is never a reason in the eyes of a hater.... whats cottos excuse for fighting all those fukkin vacant title shots?
i mean, floyd beat two legit champs to get his belts, in fact, floyd has never fought for a vacant title....
i mean, we can go there..... what pac reason for not fighting floyd at 145, like he is so eager to do with cotto? is it because he knows floyd can make that weight safely, and whoop that ass?
According to his nuthuggers he is too small to fight WWs but to big to make 140.
He fights at Maywelter now. he is a 144lber!!!!!!
well yea thats what the nutthuggers say, if ur just a fan like me, than u say he can make 140..... i even made a thread about it :)
But NO ONE can make an argument for shane NOT being the Number 1 ranked WW...Which he is by the way.
shane is the number one ww, cotto is number 2.....
cotto beat shane by ud
cotto lost to marg by tko 11
shane beat marg by rape
cotto beat clottey
marg beat clottey
the only reason either one of these guys is even being mentioned is because floyd retired btw
dude i couldve sworn that pink bumped a thread where u made an ass outta urself.... but wutever
I could've sworn you just made an ass out of yourself... but whatever :cool2:
Dude can you fukking read and Comprehend????
what part of 126-140 dont you understand, all those guys you mentioned are WW and Williams is a JWW/MW now!!!!!!!!!
if manny wins, he will be ww champ, which means he will be in the target area of each of the fighters i named.... if he doesnt like it, stay at 140. and a 140 floyd would do pac worse than he would now
well floyd destroys pac in less than 8 round, shane kos pac with the first big punch, and paul williams.... well, u already know what that would be like...... im just saying, the best fighters in the world are african american..... african american fighters own boxing..... thats the way its always been, thats the way it will stay
I don't really like to quote myself.. but... :)
I'm not really rooting for either one, though I do think Pacquiao is going to win.
I don't consider myself a fan of either one of them.. They are both nice guys though.
Pacquiao can annoy me with his stupidity (exc. signing two contracts with rival promoters & letting leaches benefit of him) but I think it would be better for boxing as a whole if he won. Ricky is at a point where he needs to win this fight though, it's all or nothing with no turning back.
Really, I don't care who wins. I just want to see a good fight.
Hopefully it lives up to the hype and we see a rematch to come along with it too.
Name one in his weight class!!!!!!!!!
From 126-140 Pacquiao Ownes Any Balck fighter, including latin fighters too!!!!!!!!
well floyd destroys pac in less than 8 round, shane kos pac with the first big punch, and paul williams.... well, u already know what that would be like...... im just saying, the best fighters in the world are african american..... african american fighters own boxing..... thats the way its always been, thats the way it will stay
lol wow..... i can name u at least 3 black fighters that beat the shit out of pacquiao.....
I'm still waiting for the post that says I picked Hatton over Pacquiao with your lying decieving ass.. :)
Admit you were wrong and that you are an idiot.
mayweather and bradley. 2.
better not come out with no nate campbell or some other bullshit fighter.
throw a pwill in there....... and possibly shane mosley
black fighters are superior.
if he's not fighting black dudes , pac is not fighting the best.
Superior ur asss, there is no flyweight black champ no featherweight no Lightweight. Mexicanos are way better than black except for pbf:bryce: