Offical weigh in of his last fight was 146 and people are making such a big deal that Pac is asking for 145 AYFS? ( Are you F serious).
Also, pls stop the drained weight issue on Pac. Its just idiotic.
first of all if the WW line is on the belt then its bull. WW means you can come up anywhere between 141 and 147 yes but there is no cathweight in the contract (145).
as for the actual agreed on weight i think its too much for pacman and just enough for cotto, cotto came in vs clottey at 146 and 1lb more isn't going to make too much difference. cotto is actually a mdeium sized WW, he still has a few lbs of fat on him and if he were rid of that i think 145 would be a doddle for him.
imo freddie knows that this weight has gone too far he initally wanted anyone of the WW guys at 142 but thats now been bumped up to 145. incidentally i remeber saying at the time that SSm and cotto would be fine for anything which was 145 or above but anything lower than that would be too much for them. listening to freddie it seems like he is uncomfortable with the weight and i don't expect any KO predictions to be coming from him this time around.
cotto by KO in 8
By the way I could be wrong, I am just saying I read it somewhere ages ago... if that isn't the case why did DLH weigh 147 on fight night and have to be rehydrate in the dressing room?
De La Hoya had to be at 147 at the weigh-ins (not at the fight night), he would be crazy to sign a deal like the one you presented.
So either he is crazy (and stupid if he signed that), or he couldn't rehydrate due to bad weight cut, because his body was to drained.
From what I have read, for every pound he was over the WW limit on fight night, he owed Pacquiao a certain sum of money... this kinda adds up as why do you think DLH would weigh 147 on fight night? Why would he have re hydrated in the dressing room? If he could of weight whatever he wanted on fight night do you honestly believe he would go in at 147?
By the way I could be wrong, I am just saying I read it somewhere ages ago... if that isn't the case why did DLH weigh 147 on fight night and have to be rehydrate in the dressing room?
That's because Mosley is physically stronger than him. Mosley is short, but he is powerfull, and bullies around biiger fighters like Vargas, De La Hoya, and Mayorga.
He couldn't do it to Cotto, I was watching that fight today, Mosley would push him back and Cotto would do it right back and they would usually stalemate and get broken apart. Mosley was backing up and tossing around Margarito like a rag doll. He was looking like a beast in comparison.
I'm not trying to discredit Mosley's win because he would have won anyway, but Margarito was looking dehydrated.
i dunno why you are complaining about the weight... cotto will STILL outweigh pac by 10 lbs on fight night.
All complaining is about the affect that weight cut could have on Cotto, it doesn't matter if he put's 20 lbs on after the weigh-ins if weight cut screws him up, someone who never cut weight can't understand that, and how one more pound can affect someone.
like i've said, it's personal opinion, and someone's point of view...
that's what I said, your interpretation is the minority interpretation and not used by REAL boxing organizations
no, it just shows that he want's to make that fight happen... when the fight begins, he will see if that affected him or not, just like De La Hoya found out when he was unable to rehydrate due to the stress he put his body through.
nononononon...
if cotto can't make 145 lbs safely and perform at his best then he should not make the fight. if he does sign to fight at 145 lbs, that means if pac starts owning him then it is a legit owning.
No it wasn't. DLH would never ever agree to anything like that. The deal was that it be a WW fight, with no limitation on fight night.
From what I have read, for every pound he was over the WW limit on fight night, he owed Pacquiao a certain sum of money... this kinda adds up as why do you think DLH would weigh 147 on fight night? Why would he have re hydrated in the dressing room? If he could of weight whatever he wanted on fight night do you honestly believe he would go in at 147?
I agree that there are different interpretations of what a WW is, but your interpretation is in the minority and not the official interpretation as per real boxing organizations.
then cotto shouldn't take teh fight. that fact that he is willing to take the fight at that weight means you have a pointless argument.
like i've said, it's personal opinion, and someone's point of view...
no, it just shows that he want's to make that fight happen... when the fight begins, he will see if that affected him or not, just like De La Hoya found out when he was unable to rehydrate due to the stress he put his body through.
also the deal with DLH was that he weighed the limit on fight night (147)
that is clearly false. there was no stipulation on dlh weighing 147 lbs on fight night. evidence: pac weighed 148 lbs on fight night.
Margorito weighted that cause he chose to, they were gonna call the fight off when Shane was over at the weigh in. He had to drop that right then or Margs woulda bailed and ****ed Shane over right there.
exactly it is an excuse.
lol, margo's excuses.... he got owned.
He's never said it or had any real excuse for that performance, but if you look at the beginning of the fight before Mosley even hit him and compare him to his past fights, he didn't look the same, he didn't look as strong as before either.
That's the one thing I am wondering, but we dunno what the catch-weight will be whether its 142-145 nothing has been decided yet and also the deal with DLH was that he weighed the limit on fight night (147) when he was dehydrated so I think if they do the same to Cotto it could make a difference.
At the end of the day, nobody knows what affect it could have until the night of the fight... for all we know it could have no affect but then we could see it could have a huge affect, nobody will know.
No it wasn't. DLH would never ever agree to anything like that. The deal was that it be a WW fight, with no limitation on fight night.
Well if it's only a few pounds then the Pacman shouldnt have a problem fighting at 147 and allowing Cotto to rehydrate whats the problem y'all say he can KO heavy weights right.
i dunno why you are complaining about the weight... cotto will STILL outweigh pac by 10 lbs on fight night.
145 lbs isn't giving pac an edge, its leveling the playing field (but that won't stop cotto from being 10 lbs heavier than pac on fight night).
both guys should be fighting guys in their own division.
if pbf is a bitch for fighting jmm (supposedly at a catchweight of 144 lbs), then what does that make cotto?
as long as cotto can rehydrate to be basically a middleweight, it won't matter much at all.
That's the one thing I am wondering, but we dunno what the catch-weight will be whether its 142-145 nothing has been decided yet and also the deal with DLH was that he weighed the limit on fight night (147) when he was dehydrated so I think if they do the same to Cotto it could make a difference.
At the end of the day, nobody knows what affect it could have until the night of the fight... for all we know it could have no affect but then we could see it could have a huge affect, nobody will know.
STFU ts, you don't know shit.
Margarito, someone that's done it before unlike your non experienced ass, is saying that it will dehydrate Cotto.
He went down to 145 at the weigh in against Mosley and he didn't look nearly as strong on fight night.
That's because Mosley is physically stronger than him. Mosley is short, but he is powerfull, and bullies around biiger fighters like Vargas, De La Hoya, and Mayorga.
depends on someone's point of view... if WW is between 141 and 147, than if title is on the line, 147 is maximum allowed weight, that's my opinion.
I agree that there are different interpretations of what a WW is, but your interpretation is in the minority and not the official interpretation as per real boxing organizations.
and a thing about one pound, i have cut weight many times in my life, and believe me, one pound, the last pound can be a big trouble to cut, and can drain you more than first 5 pounds you've cut.
then cotto shouldn't take teh fight. that fact that he is willing to take the fight at that weight means you have a pointless argument.
STFU ts, you don't know shit.
Margarito, someone that's done it before unlike your non experienced ass, is saying that it will dehydrate Cotto.
He went down to 145 at the weigh in against Mosley and he didn't look nearly as strong on fight night.
lol, margo's excuses.... he got owned.
technically WW is anything between 147 lbs and 141 lbs... the belt is on the line pending negotiations.
depends on someone's point of view... if WW is between 141 and 147, than if title is on the line, 147 is maximum allowed weight, that's my opinion.
and a thing about one pound, i have cut weight many times in my life, and believe me, one pound, the last pound can be a big trouble to cut, and can drain you more than first 5 pounds you've cut.
STFU ts, you don't know shit.
Margarito, someone that's done it before unlike your non experienced ass, is saying that it will dehydrate Cotto.
He went down to 145 at the weigh in against Mosley and he didn't look nearly as strong on fight night.
if pbf is a bitch for fighting jmm (supposedly at a catchweight of 144 lbs), then what does that make cotto?
as long as cotto can rehydrate to be basically a middleweight, it won't matter much at all.
nailed it! cotto doesnt want to fight paul williams and hes fighting a former flyweight and the cotto stans wanna complain about 1 pounds :pat:
if this is a title fight, than only 147 lbs weight limit is acceptable... if this is not title fight, than 145 is fine by me.
anyway, pac should fight in his weight division (140 lbs or 135) while Cotto is fighting at WW, and that's it.
i hate this catch weight stuff.
technically WW is anything between 147 lbs and 141 lbs... the belt is on the line pending negotiations.
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