Which heavyweights could you seen roy jones taking?
Tyson, Holyfield, Vladimir or Vitali, Ali.......etc?
I'd like to see everyone's thoughts on this ( yes i know hes primarily a middleweight).....
Agreed. I felt he could've beat Rahman rather handily. Moving back down to LHW was a huge mistake.
ye it was and there were a lot of guys he could have given a go that were past their prime but he was never a HW in terms of weight but coming back down took the edge off his skills and that was it really
Well to be honest the Lewis that fought Vitali looked very beatable, I can see where George was coming from there although I wouldn't have bet on the outcome, Lennox was still powerful!
As for Roy's power as a heavy, he looked fairly heavy handed against Ruiz. Also, Roy's chin has been much criticised since the move back down to light heavy, some people have assumed he always had a glass jaw but it looked sturdy against Ruiz (and he did get hit hard in that fight).
I'm convinced that Roy's chin up till Tarver 2 was excellent, he took some almighty blows in several fights without even flinching prior to this. A fighter's chin can deteriorate over time particularly with repeated weight loss and age. Another case is Ricky Hatton, who could walk through almost anything before facing Mayweather. He walked through some almighty blows from Magee, Phillips and Tszyu. But post Mayweather he seems wobbly from what look like innoccuous blows from Lascano.
Roy vs Holyfield: I'd shade a peak Holyfield by decision. His hands in 1990/91 were super quick (not far off heavyweight Jone's speed) and his workrate and conditioning were second to none. I dont think the heavyweight Jones could match Holyfield's workrate, but Jones would look great in spurts.
Great post, fully agree.
When Jones beat Ruiz he shoud've stayed at heavyweight in my opinion, Roy was never the same after boiling himself back down to LHW.
Agreed. I felt he could've beat Rahman rather handily. Moving back down to LHW was a huge mistake.
Well to be honest the Lewis that fought Vitali looked very beatable, I can see where George was coming from there although I wouldn't have bet on the outcome, Lennox was still powerful!
As for Roy's power as a heavy, he looked fairly heavy handed against Ruiz. Also, Roy's chin has been much criticised since the move back down to light heavy, some people have assumed he always had a glass jaw but it looked sturdy against Ruiz (and he did get hit hard in that fight).
I'm convinced that Roy's chin up till Tarver 2 was excellent, he took some almighty blows in several fights without even flinching prior to this. A fighter's chin can deteriorate over time particularly with repeated weight loss and age. Another case is Ricky Hatton, who could walk through almost anything before facing Mayweather. He walked through some almighty blows from Magee, Phillips and Tszyu. But post Mayweather he seems wobbly from what look like innoccuous blows from Lascano.
Roy vs Holyfield: I'd shade a peak Holyfield by decision. His hands in 1990/91 were super quick (not far off heavyweight Jone's speed) and his workrate and conditioning were second to none. I dont think the heavyweight Jones could match Holyfield's workrate, but Jones would look great in spurts.
Was just checking out the end of john ruiz fight on HBO, foreman seems to think jones could take Lennox lewis.
Crazy!
Now that is very wishfull thinking!
I think Roy would have a good shot at beating Evander.
I could see Jones outspeeding him to win a decision.
Holyfield is not a big puncher, so even though im not saying he couldn't hurt Jones, what i am saying is that if he did fall behind he does not have fight changing power to retrieve the situation, Holyfield relies on laying the ground work then getting you out of there and i think the early rounds would be Roy Jones's because Jones will be fresh early and at his quickest/sharpest, meanwhile i feel Holyfield will take a longer to get warmed up.
Holyfield probably starts favourite because he is a HW, but i think Jones has enough speed and intelligence to get by Evander.
I just wouldn't be sure how much power jones carried up, or how his chin would hold out.
Or could his speed overcome his other weaknesses due to moving up weight.
The Jones that beat Ruiz would have an even chance against many heavies in history, up till the 60s most heavyweights were around the 190-200 lbs mark and Roy was fast, elusive and powerful that night!
Its more a question of who wouldn't you think Roy would have a chance against? For me the following would certainly be big risks for Jones as a heavy:
Sonny Liston
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Earnie Shavers
Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Ike Ibeabuchi
Wlad and Vitali Klitschkco