Ortiz = cintron

another one that comes to mind had all the physical tools all the abilities power speed youth micheal grant just that somethin is lackin in them

i didnt say their fighten styles nor that theyre washed up i said they both seem to lack that true desire that fire that when somones pushes back u push harder they kinda look confused/scared like this is the way its suppose to b then they just freeze up and look for way outs oh ok then in that case they are similar

i didnt say their fighten styles nor that theyre washed up i said they both seem to lack that true desire that fire that when somones pushes back u push harder they kinda look confused/scared like this isnt the way its suppose to b then they just freeze up and look for way outs

but least cintron made it better opposition lol just great physical athletes prolly awesome in other sports but they lack that fireeee that will needed in boxing I still like ortiz better cause he tells the truth, while cintron lies and complains.

but least cintron made it better opposition lol just great physical athletes prolly awesome in other sports but they lack that fireeee that will needed in boxing na cintron is much better. ortiz = a poor mans vargas.

I don't see many similarities either than they are big punchers altough Ortiz ain't as proven. Good fighters though.

but least cintron made it better opposition lol just great physical athletes prolly awesome in other sports but they lack that fireeee that will needed in boxing You do realize that both fighters have only really lost to one man in their entire boxing careers. I think it's a bit early to call either fighter washed up.