so here is my question.....

the difference is that guerrero was'nt even in any kinda of danger when he said he could'nt see which was a bs although i believe was a smart move...ortiz took alot of beating and was in a serious trouble right before he quit......guerrero was a bigger bitch than tonight's ortiz imo... yeah guerro wasn't even hurt... ortiz was badly buzzed.

p4p hell yea..... clottey isnt just going around knocking out ppl in his division, even though he's huge for it...... Nobodys talking about P4P. Straight up, Maidana hits harder than Clottey? Are you really trying to say what Cotto went through for 12 rounds wasn't worse then what Ortiz went through? Are you arguing in order to defend that?

were you not satisfied with victor ortiz's performance? lets see: he floored the guy once in the 1st.... got floored in the first.... got up to floor him twice in the second.... Then got stopped in the 6th..... the fight was exciting, and the truth of the matter is that u all are dissappointed with the interview, not his performance.... he had one cut eye, one closed eye, and admitted he was hurt badly.... there is no shame in knowing when enough is enough..... nah man his performance wasn't good. if he fought a better fight w/ tighter defense he wouldn't have gotten hurt/cut and quit.

So Maidana hits HARDER than 158lb fight night Joshua Clottey? p4p hell yea..... clottey isnt just going around knocking out ppl in his division, even though he's huge for it......

well,give him time for his next fight....ortiz quit in the 6th while guerrero quit in a third..... one was a cut where the ref asked him if he could continue and he said that he could not see and the other was a cut that, in itself, did not stop the fight but an absence of the will to continue did- that is the difference between the 2.

so clottey has monster power now reed? So Maidana hits HARDER than 158lb fight night Joshua Clottey?

so by that standards floyd is feather fisted..... nope..... floyd has many more fights and has moved up in weight throughout his career....

i would say maidana is a harde hitter than clottey.... just look at his record...... so by that standards floyd is feather fisted.....

Wow............. so clottey has monster power now reed?

i would say maidana is a harde hitter than clottey.... just look at his record...... Wow.............

Cottos cut, and the blood coming from it, was worse than the blood and the swollen eye Ortiz had... And the fighter he was fighting, was 3x the fighter Ortiz was fighting. i would say maidana is a harde hitter than clottey.... just look at his record......

Ortiz was weight drained, as Hatton would say, he's "FOOKIN MASSIVE at 140"

Cottos cut, and the blood coming from it, was worse than the blood and the swollen eye Ortiz had... And the fighter he was fighting, was 3x the fighter Ortiz was fighting.

What Miguel Cotto endured through 12 rounds, was ten fold.. 10 and half

What Miguel Cotto endured through 12 rounds, was ten fold.. yea but miguel is alot older, and alot more experienced.... i repect victor alot fr fighting with no good eyes

no,the fight was still winnable but he bitched out ala robert guerrero... Yet Guerrero came back in his very next fight to dominate via tko victory, being smart and being a coward are 2 different things :banghead:

What Miguel Cotto endured through 12 rounds, was ten fold..

stop making excuses, the guy had no reason to quit, he wasn't being beaten to death, he was in a tough fight and nothing more. dude stfu... i know for a fact u have never fought someone with one swollen, and one cut eye... so just stop with this maddness..... fact is ur more of a bitch than any boxer can ever be

i still respect ortiz but he needs to work ona few things such as defence and learning how to counter

He just really fought a dumb fight going to war with a guy like that who only has that one chance to win. He could've boxed circles around the guy, then he quit on top of it. I'm not saying he's trash or whatever but it REALLY shows his limitations and there are fighters much better than Maidana.