Really big Mayweather idiots in here.

Really? Baldomir was equal height to Floyd. So the countering is much easier. When you punch up, its harder to counter. Pot shotting and backing off wont do much because Margarito doesn't fight like, "Move in, stop wait, try throw punches." Margarito goes like, "Walk through your punches, bang bang bang bang bang until you get out of the way. Repeat." if cotto can box and move on margo, so can floyd... except floyd has much better defense and stamina than cotto. floyd UD margo. that said, he actually has to fight margo to get credit.

Ok Ok! Talk about retarded posts???? I'm really trying to respect the opinions of others and not point out flawed their reasoning may be. This is however a boxing board. One would expect others to have at least a marginal understanding of the topic in which they post about. Margarito throwing jabs is absolutely retarded. Have you actually watched Margarito fight???? He throws wide looping almost haymakers. Nothing resembling a damn jab. The only reason you don't see Floyd beating Margarito or anyone else is because you are either too consumed with hate or too retarded to know what you're watching. I think this has to be the closest answer...lol

No, I never said that. There are some Mayweather crazed fans out there who really believe that he can beat someone like Margarito easily. I find that very stupid. I am a fan of Mayweather btw. Boxing is all about style as well and i wouldnt be surprise if Mayweather beats Margarito 120-108 without Rito winning a round to be honest, Margarito can pressure but he doesnt know how to cut off the ring, He's also tooooo slow. When he fought Cotto the first six round he made cotto look like pernell whittker, He was getting outbox by cotto, Couldnt cut off the ring And cotto was making him miss, So i dont think Mayweather would have too much trouble doing that for 12 rounds imo.

How could Floyd pot shot someone with that much reach on him? Margarito has the option of jabbing him to death all night and winning on points or forcing him into a corner and going to town with uppercuts. Floyds little elbows would be begging for mercy once Margarito landed a few shots on it. Floyd is a defensive fighter and fights are won offensively. He would be covering up the entire fight and running or his life. I don't see how Floyd could beat a Margarito. Ok Ok! Talk about retarded posts???? I'm really trying to respect the opinions of others and not point out flawed their reasoning may be. This is however a boxing board. One would expect others to have at least a marginal understanding of the topic in which they post about. Margarito throwing jabs is absolutely retarded. Have you actually watched Margarito fight???? He throws wide looping almost haymakers. Nothing resembling a damn jab. The only reason you don't see Floyd beating Margarito or anyone else is because you are either too consumed with hate or too retarded to know what you're watching.

So anyone that picks Mayweather by UD is retarded and an idiot??? Well for your information TS i picked Margarito to KO Mosley and we all know what happened there, People picking Mayweather to beat Rito via easy UD are not that far off. No, I never said that. There are some Mayweather crazed fans out there who really believe that he can beat someone like Margarito easily. I find that very stupid. I am a fan of Mayweather btw.

I swear, the retardation that Mayweather createst is just rediculous. Im seeing posts about how Mayweather would beat Margarito in an easy UD. Are you people ****ing retarded? Did your mom drop you on your head. Mayweather is incredibly good. Has incredible talent, perfect time, good hand speed, great footwork, possibly the best defense ever etc. etc. Now, I gotta say. When I see posts like this... Im slap my head like the fucking V8 commercials. I then see posts in the same thread like Margarito wasn't good. What the ****? Did these dudes become boxing fans last week or some shit? Let me dissect this showdown. Mayweather had 1 fight with someone of Margarito's height. (And yes, in boxing height does play a huge factor in who wins.) That person was Del La Hoya, whom he faught to a Split Decision and had problems getting to Del La Hoya anyways. Now we can give it a break because Del La Hoya has a great jab, but the height and reach factor played huge in that fight. Del La Hoya being old was hesitant to pull the trigger and did not use any power shots at all. Which also played a factor into the fight. Mayweather has faught no one with Margarito's record breaking work rate. Has only faught 1 person with his type of pressure. That person was Castillo and even then, Mayweather was give ALOT of problems. Many people think Castillo won that fight, so that shows you that Mayweather was given alot of problems. Margarito is different though. His only KO loss was to Mosley, who fights nothing like Mayweather. Which means the chances of Mayweather knocking him out are less than 1%.He has 27 KOs in a 44 fight career, most comming in the first few rounds. Which means his power is great. He has a constant pressure that breaks the will of almost every fighter he has ever faced. His footwork is vastly underrated, it looks like he doesn't have any but he does. How you say? He is constantly swarming his opponent, his opponents move left, right, up, down and he is right there no matter where they turn. That is also footwork, not just backing up but moving forward is part of footwork as well. Now people can bring up the Hatton and his pressure. Well guess what? Not of the same height, doesn't have the same chin or body, and Hatton clumsily walks in and gets fuck/i]ed over by top tier fighters. Margarito moves in much differently. You see. The thing that will hurt Mayweather is the combination of size, power, and constant pressure. Del La Hoya faught Mayweather to a SD but never pulled the trigger, providing almost the same type of pressure but no cigar. Margarito pressures and always pulls the trigger, always power shots. Goes to the head and body. Loves throwing uppercuts not just straights (like del la hoya did) Essentially never looks tired(fights the same from 1st to 12th), and constantly swarms his opponents without smothering himself or over persuing. Mayweather is a great boxer. Incredibly skilled and gifted, add smarts too. However, every boxer has a weakness. Fighters like Margarito and Paul Williams are his kryptonite. I like Mayweather as much as the next guy and if you have ever seen me post about Mayweather its never hating him. Its pretty much praises but its ****ing rediculous how anyone can think Mayweather beats fighters like Margarito or Paul Williams(basically a faster and smarter Margarito). 1600-1800 punches thrown at him(not just head hunting), Mayweather wont win. Sorry to say it but in all honesty, Mayweather wont win. **** nuthugging, he is one of my favorites too but this is the truth. Nice post. Except you left off one fighter that punches a hole in your theory. Diego Corrales. Much taller and a stalker. He pot shotted him to death. Mosely does possess very similar skill sets like Floyd. You forgot, DLH chose Mosely to prepare him for Floyd because he can imitate his speed. If you ever boxed you'd know that you can't throw 1600 punches if you're getting hit by someone much quicker. That alone would cause major problems for Margarito. Watch the Mosely fight. Shane's speed neutralized Margaritos punch output. Margarito is way too slow for a guy with Floyd's speed. Anyone on here will also tell you few if anyone has Floyd's defensive prowess. Your 1600 punch output is useless if you aren't landing the punches. I would say this. Paul Williams would give Floyd fits. I don't think Floyd can hurt him and his height advantage is totally sick. Then again, there isn't a fighter in the welterweight class lining up to fight him either so you can't blame Floyd for that one. I will also throw this out here. Margarito without plaster is a bum. If I wore plaster I would have all of the confidence in the world. Can you imagine the thought of knowing I can trade punches two or three for one cause I know my one will break you down faster than your three???? You have to question why he used it in the first place. He probably knew he lacked punching power and needed a boost. Someone in his camp knew he was slow as hell but possessed a nice enough chin. He just needed a boost in punching power. I'm willing to bet all of my points (which isn't many) that he would NOT be a factory in the level was was. I'm willing to bet if he fought Cintron again he'd lose. Only a fool would believe he only used plaster once! I bet he used it against Williams,Cintron and Cotto. Probably even before then. I can't even believe anyone in their right mind is still speaking of this guy as if he should matter after cheating. LOL

What was not to like about Marg? But that shit left such a sour taste. I couldn't believe such a thing could happen today. And what the fuck was the supervisor doing? Why was it Mosley's cornerman and not the supervisor who saw it? I didn't watch it live over here, but when I woke up sunday morning and read about I was like :wtf: Why did you have that feeling? I had something like that back in Tyson's hey-day but that was more due to me being tired, sizzled and worried if the opponent could leave the ring at his own power. Honestly, I don't know, it just popped up out of nowhere. I was extremely confident once the fight was announced that Tony was just going to smash dude. Was super hyped for the fight, but as it inched closer and closer to fight time, I started getting real nervous. It was weird.

So anyone that picks Mayweather by UD is retarded and an idiot??? Well for your information TS i picked Margarito to KO Mosley and we all know what happened there, People picking Mayweather to beat Rito via easy UD are not that far off.

Lujan's ear? Way before Cotto, and before PWill. He was dropping guys like flies all his career. Sure Cotto looked horrible and I may be known to make jokes about it but that happens in boxing when you dont block your face. Cotto was trying to sway and fade, it didn't work and he paid for it. Even after PWill, he faught Cintron again and faught him a round longer than the first time. If he had plaster after PWill(because his career is in jepordy, illogical to have it before), wouldn't Cintron be stopped quicker rather than later right? You did notice that I wrote that it was my opinion and that I didn't have proof? Still the suspicion will always be there although we might never know untill marg in 10 years decides to write a book to earn some change.

*pendulum swings again* In all honesty, before the Mosley fight, I had a really strange feeling as me and partner were discussing the fight. I even threw up minutes before the announcement of substances were made. As a former fan of the dude, I was severely disappointed in those actions. What was not to like about Marg? But that shit left such a sour taste. I couldn't believe such a thing could happen today. And what the fuck was the supervisor doing? Why was it Mosley's cornerman and not the supervisor who saw it? I didn't watch it live over here, but when I woke up sunday morning and read about I was like :wtf: Why did you have that feeling? I had something like that back in Tyson's hey-day but that was more due to me being tired, sizzled and worried if the opponent could leave the ring at his own power.

nah... floyd beats margo like he beat baldomir. Really? Baldomir was equal height to Floyd. So the countering is much easier. When you punch up, its harder to counter. Pot shotting and backing off wont do much because Margarito doesn't fight like, "Move in, stop wait, try throw punches." Margarito goes like, "Walk through your punches, bang bang bang bang bang until you get out of the way. Repeat." I think he used it. The comments in the corner are highly suspicious and the grotesquely swollen face is reminiscent of Billy Collins. Lujan's ear? Way before Cotto, and before PWill. He was dropping guys like flies all his career. Sure Cotto looked horrible and I may be known to make jokes about it but that happens in boxing when you dont block your face. Cotto was trying to sway and fade, it didn't work and he paid for it. Even after PWill, he faught Cintron again and faught him a round longer than the first time. If he had plaster after PWill(because his career is in jepordy, illogical to have it before), wouldn't Cintron be stopped quicker rather than later right?

Do u think there is anyway that we can get floyd to prove it,or should I just go by what him and his fans claim!?:boxing: true enough, floyd should actually fight the fight, but I'm just telling you what I think would happen.

nah... floyd beats margo like he beat baldomir. pretty much, mosley isn't hard to find, he was getting hit against mayorga but margarito couldn't even touch shane so i don't see how he we would possibly hit floyd. No way floyd wins by stoppage unless margarito lunges at him, slips on a wet spot on the canvas and tears a knee ligament forcing him to retire from the fight.

I think he used it. The comments in the corner are highly suspicious and the grotesquely swollen face is reminiscent of Billy Collins. Possibly but Cotto takes so many punches it's so hard to say. One thing's for sure, Margarito didn't have plaster in his chin.

Before I get those "woa woa nigga, I aint reading all that" pics. In short: Mayweather doesn't overcome the Size, Power, Work-rate, Pressure combination. um..... floyd does win an easy ud over marg-daddy..... so um....... yea

lol, TS, you make it sound like margo hasent lost befor, floyd would win a UD, imo

I think he used it. The comments in the corner are highly suspicious and the grotesquely swollen face is reminiscent of Billy Collins. *pendulum swings again* In all honesty, before the Mosley fight, I had a really strange feeling as me and partner were discussing the fight. I even threw up minutes before the announcement of substances were made. As a former fan of the dude, I was severely disappointed in those actions.

nah... floyd beats margo like he beat baldomir. Do u think there is anyway that we can get floyd to prove it,or should I just go by what him and his fans claim!?:boxing:

You know, I used to feel that he used against Cotto too, but after seeing the Clottey fight a few weeks ago, it kind of swayed my opinion the other way. Cotto was still taking shots he really shouldn't have and happened to stay up during the fight. Right before Kellerman said, "shades of the Margarito fight", I told my brother, "damn, this is starting to look exactly like the Margarito fight". Soon as Max said it, we looked at eachother and busted out laughing. Even now I still don't know what to believe. Either way, its a shitty part of boxing history that still pisses me off. I think he used it. The comments in the corner are highly suspicious and the grotesquely swollen face is reminiscent of Billy Collins.

I agree with the thread starter,the shoulder roll and potshot will not keep Margarito at bay,if floyd has nowhere near the punching power of Cotto then he will be relying on movement alone to beat Margarito,thats not possible,because Margarito will be in punching range long before floyd,he throws punches from every angle,if floyd does not fight sometimes at least,he gets embarrassed,walked down and stopped!!!For example B-Hops defense is world class,but the Calzaghe workrate edged him and B-HOP and him were the same size!!floyd is way smaller than Margarito!! nah... floyd beats margo like he beat baldomir.