george foreman vs. wladimir klitschko

And Pinky Poet couldn't resist to post another sexually tainted message. You are so predictable. Considering at the time of writing you have made 272 posts of which i'll wager 270 are about either Wlad being the greatest fighter that has ever walked the earth or that Ali was a bum or weight obsessive I do not think someone elses predictability would be something you could comment on with clear conscience. I personally would go with lilac re Poets writing colour its certainly not pink.

BIG GEORGE BABY no question Klitscho doesn't make it to the 6th rd

Thus half-a-head size difference (weigh in) will translate into a larger size difference in ring. He is not adverse to showing a picture of Joe Louis standing on scales and Max Schmelling standing on the floor to emphasise how short Max Schmelling was!

He doesn't use anything comparable to my logic. Some may enjoy this joke: Redneck Logic Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead. The first goes in to see the counselor, who tells him to take Math, History, and Logic. "What's Logic?" the first redneck asks. The professor answers by saying, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?" "I sure do." "Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor. "That's real good!" says the redneck. The professor continues, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house." Impressed, the redneck says, "Amazin!" "And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife." "That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck is obviously catching on. "Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor. "You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!!" The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walks back into the hallway, where his friend is still waiting. "So what classes are ya takin' ?" asks the friend. "Math, History, and Logic!" replies the first redneck. "What in tarnation is logic???" asked his friend. "Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck. "No," his friend replied. "You're QUEER, ain't ya?"

This thread is another example for the delusion that boxers of the 70ies were superhuman. Now, let's get back to reality with some "Wake up, childhood is over"-facts: Foreman's weight in the 70ies was median 217lbs. Basically like Chris Byrd or Eliseo Castillo. Foreman is 6'3.5''. 217lbs + 6'3.5'' = Wlad's average opponents, except that Foreman was 10-20 lbs lighter than Wlad's median opponent (234lbs). STOP DELUDING YOURSELF. In the whole 70ies Foreman fought only 4 heavies who were 6'4''+. All 4 were bums with a median record of 24-30! One of those bums he couldn't even KO (Roberto Davila, 27-29, 8 KO losses, 6'4''). In the whole 70ies Foreman fought only 5 heavies who were 225+ lbs. All 5 were bums with a COMBINED RECORD OF 52-42! Boy, you gotta lot of faith if you think that someone like Foreman who cannot KO a featherfisty chinny bum like Davila could KO prime Wladimir Klitschko. On the other hand Wlad has a better KOratio than Foreman and Foreman has not seen anyone as tall, heavy and hard hitting as Wlad. The fight would be probably somewhat competitive (because I consider Foreman the best of the 70ies boxers), Foreman would survive a few rounds against Wlad before Foreman lands on the floor. And we're off!!! Listen we are talking about a boxing match, if it was however weight watchers the Klit Brothers would kick ass for sure. Having duped myself into watching the "fight" the other night, a few things leapt out at me: 1) How on earth could someone as limited as Chaguev ever win a title and never be knocked down before? To then hear someone say that Ustinov looked impressive really put it all into perspective. 2) Wlad is an efficient fighter with a good (not great) jab. He is in a woefully weak era as proven by Chaguev but carries out his work efficiently. 3) There are self fulfilling prophesies. The division is weak and so fighters can remain undefeated. Then when someone better than them beats this "undefeated" fighter it is trumpeted way beyond its reality. 4) Wlad has a style that is best watched via BoxingRec, where you can look at his weight the other guys weight, compare records etc. To actually watch him is painful. To try and inflate the skills and records of the Klitschko brothers by denigrating proven atg fighters from the past only leaves that poster open to ridicule and causes ill feeling to the Klitschko brothers. The Klitschko brothers have reigned efficiently and with dignity the fact that they are scorned on this site by many is not the fault of them but the fault of their fans.

foreman KO wlad. the only way wlad wins if he bores foreman into sleep.

No contest both fighter is in different generation hahaha

Foreman by brutal KO

...still didn't answer my question. keep that head in the sand bro...

He doesn't use anything comparable to my logic. I am analyzing records and watching fights. No, this thread is the proof for exact the other way round: Good-old-time-nostalgists basically argue that then-heavyweights are superior to nowadays heavies because they made an impressive performance in the 70ies. Yes, people point out a lot, yet beating a 205lbs guy is beating a 205lbs guy. No matter how you try to argue it away. Excuse me, but this is EXACTLY what this thread is about: A prime Foreman vs a Prime Wlad. Wrong thread. Wlad won't shrink in the time machine. So either you have a fight of nowadays Wlad vs 70ies Foreman or you have shrinke'd Wlad (= a fantasy-Wlad who never existed in that form) vs 70ies Foreman. This is not what this thread is about. This thread is about the factual existing 70ies prime Foreman vs the factual existing nowadays prime Wlad. That's not a f*cking warrior. That just shows you how limited Ali was, since he couldn't keep an opponent away. Stop arguing how good Ali was by pointing out how bad he performed ("broken jaw" against a half-blind). This is the same inverted logic as "Wlad is so bad because he dominates so much". hey knn...whos your favorite heavyweight of all time?

Since you classified my FACTUAL RECORD BASED post as "nonsense", and since you suck information without adding anything valuable yourself... Why should I answer any question that you ask? The person who wrote this exam uses the same avenues of logic to arrive at conclusions that you do: http://zeus.funnyexam.com/content/1613/resized/womanproblems.jpg?1236739147 Basically you argue that today's heavyweight champions are superior to HWs of 30 years ago because heavyweights of 30 years ago never fought against anyone as large HWs today. That logic is convoluted, as several others have pointed out. Our population as a whole was smaller in the 70s because back then we thought that eggs, bacon, sausage and cheese constituted a healthy breakfast. People smoked cigarettes on airplanes. Athletes smoked in dressing rooms at halftime. Yet you compare height and weight stats that you copied and pasted from boxrec.com as if fights that happened in 1965 are interchangeable with fights that happened in 2005. If a guy like Wlad was born in 1940, who's to say that he'd be a 6'6 240 pound guy? If Foreman was born in 1980, with the benefit of contemporary nutrition and weight training, who's to say he wouldn't be a 6'6 240 pound guy? That's why for the rest of us, these mythical matchups are intriguing discussions of skillsets and style matchups. For you, these are mostly matchups of tape measures and scale figures. So again I ask you, what do you consider to be the most competitive era of heavyweight boxing based on fighter skillset/p4p talent? Stop disparaging Frazier by the way. Dude basically fought the primest version of a post-suspension, undefeated Ali and broke his jaw. That's a ****ing warrior.

Everyone is desperate to find a weakness in Wlad. No one alive can beat him, so raise someone from the dead! probably true, if haye can't beat him no one active can but that doesn't mean he's not BORING AS FUK

Hmm, strange that Foreman had 35 fights that lasted longer than 3 rounds. You know what opponents Foreman finished within 3? A median opponent of 18-14 = bums. No wonder that you think Foreman would win: You actually never checked his record. this is where you said he only knocked out bums within 3 rounds. you are a liar

Did you just compare Frazier (13-4 in real heavyweight fights, 5'11'') with Klitschko? How does KOing of a tiny featherfisty half-blind Frazier (KOratio like Chris Byrd) prove that Foreman could compete against Klitschko? i was correcting you on you saying foreman has not beaten anyone inside 3 rounds that wasnt a bum..i prove it off of the fact that both norton and frazier had wins over muhammed ali previous to fighting george foreman..and they both had good chins..o yea why dont u explain how an inch and a half taller makes someone a hole head taller???...ur head is so far up klitschkos ass you dont know what reality is..can you tell me something..who do you think could actually beat wladimir?...vitali klitschko? hahahaha

3 times as hard? Is this your favorite fantasy or can you back it up by FACTUAL RECORD? If you cannot back it up with facts then let me counter-fantasize that Wlad hits 8x harder than Foreman. Thompson is a southpaw Thompson is a head taller than Foreman Thompson is 30lbs heavier than Foreman Thompson has a completely different style than Foreman Wlad wasn't even stunned by Thompson Wlad KOed Thompson Who has one of the most bummed-up records you ever saw. As if Wlad would rely on landing uppercuts on somebody. Hahaha, and Wlad would just stand around and shadowbox Hahaha, 1) get around Wlad's defense 2) start a slugfest 3) make Wlad stand around. Easy task for anybody. Hmm, strange that Foreman had 35 fights that lasted longer than 3 rounds. You know what opponents Foreman finished within 3? A median opponent of 18-14 = bums. No wonder that you think Foreman would win: You actually never checked his record. and another thing..how is thompson a head taller than foreman when foreman is 6'3 1/2 and thompson is 6'5..you call an inch and a half a head taller!?

3 times as hard? Is this your favorite fantasy or can you back it up by FACTUAL RECORD? If you cannot back it up with facts then let me counter-fantasize that Wlad hits 8x harder than Foreman. Thompson is a southpaw Thompson is a head taller than Foreman Thompson is 30lbs heavier than Foreman Thompson has a completely different style than Foreman Wlad wasn't even stunned by Thompson Wlad KOed Thompson Who has one of the most bummed-up records you ever saw. As if Wlad would rely on landing uppercuts on somebody. Hahaha, and Wlad would just stand around and shadowbox Hahaha, 1) get around Wlad's defense 2) start a slugfest 3) make Wlad stand around. Easy task for anybody. Hmm, strange that Foreman had 35 fights that lasted longer than 3 rounds. You know what opponents Foreman finished within 3? A median opponent of 18-14 = bums. No wonder that you think Foreman would win: You actually never checked his record. actually i have checked his record..and he knocked out joe frazier in 2 rounds and ken norton in two rounds..i think YOU my friend, need to check his record

Foreman rips him a second arsehole.

Since you classified my FACTUAL RECORD BASED post as "nonsense", and since you suck information without adding anything valuable yourself... Why should I answer any question that you ask? hmm..look man i know ur a klitschko fan and everything..but lets be realistic..yes wlad is a great boxer with good power. but foreman hit probably 3 times as hard as wladimir..and whether u want to admit it or not wladimir has a weak chin..but hes been lucky enough to have the boxing skills and the trainer he does to keep from getting hit anymore..the most recent opponent wlad was hit by more than a few times..was tony thompson and thompson does not hit hard at all..foreman was a very unique ,rare type of fighter he had a sluggers style but he managed not to take much damage..because he was kind of awkward to fight..he kind of kept his head back from taking alot of punches but still managed to get off his own punches..and it was extremely hard to land uppercuts on him..anyway. i would put money that wladimir wouldnt be able to keep foreman away from him for more than maybe one round..then foreman would start throwing his upper cuts and getting around wlad's jab..lets be realistic after 2 or 3 uppercuts land from foreman on wlads chin..THE FIGHT IS OVER..and if it got into a slugfest foreman could take more punishment than wlad and is better at slugging than wlad..wladimir would be out cold..foreman would be to strong and to powerful for wladimir with his bullying type style..foreman KO round 3

Prime.... Foreman all day long, probably by mid round(s) KO.. But the Foreman who beat Moorer gets busted up 'Alex Stewart' style & loses..

Out of curiosity, what time period would you classify as the most competitive for the heavyweight division?