Ray Mercer former WBO heavyweight champion back in 1991 whose last title shot was a 6th round TKO loss to Wlad Klitscho in 2002. He also lost a decision to Larry Holmes in 1992 a decision to Holyfield in '95 and a MD to Lennox Lewis in '96.. he won Olympic gold in 1988 at 27 years old...
2-time UFC champ Tim Sylvia, 33, was the number 8 ranked heavyweight. He won his first UFC title in 2003 and again in 2006 .. he held the UFC title until March of 2007 where he lost to Randy COuture
the match was supposed to be a boxing match under boxing rules but 2 days before the fight it was switched to a MMA matchupbecause a sanctioned boxing match was deemed illegal
. Mercer KO'd him in 9 seconds
mercer goes to 1-0 in mma but has a exhibition loss to kimbo slice..
Sylvia drops to 24-6 in mma
heres som vids
I think if anything mercer ko'ing sylvia puts a big question mark on fedor's win over sylvia rather than mma in general
Fedor really isnt all that athletic and invincible.. hes fighting a bunch of losers
Didnt dana white bitch out of a roy jones vs silva match>
Because Silva would probably be ktfo as well. He was a boxer, so I dont expect him to get ktfo like Sylvia but who knows? Maybe Anderson can't beat a shot boxer.
Well not really because Silva is the top dog in the UFC. Mercer is way more over the hill than Sylvia. Sylvia was fighting Fedor not too long ago. That would be like maybe Ken Shamrock coming over and KO someone in boxing like Roy if they were same weight but not Silva. I dont think it means much though. Different sports, but boxing is more skilled.
it's not outside the realm of possibility but there is no doubt in my mind -- nor should there be in anybody else's mind who doesn't happen to be a mongoloid -- that joins absolutely destroys Silva in a boxing match.
Didnt dana white bitch out of a roy jones vs silva match>
affliction dropped sylvia like a bad habit yesterday...LOL! What did sylvia say? I'm going to use ray as a stepping stone to his boxing career...LOL! He truly is an idiot from an a terrible sport.so in 10 seconds I wonder how high the mma will rank him.after all wasn't sylvia ufc hw champ recently?
the question is where will mercer rank now in the MMA picture lol...
Well not really because Silva is the top dog in the UFC. Mercer is way more over the hill than Sylvia. Sylvia was fighting Fedor not too long ago. That would be like maybe Ken Shamrock coming over and KO someone in boxing like Roy if they were same weight but not Silva. I dont think it means much though. Different sports, but boxing is more skilled.
Because ONE guy Koed ONE other guy?
Maybe if he KOed the best fighter they had...
but do you know ANYTHING about Tim Sylvia?
That would be like Anderson Silva coming over and knocking out Roy Jones right now, and saying that UFC is better than Boxing because he just did that...
No.
If someone is paid, they need to make it look convincing, that's why Mercer said that
I respect your opinion but I disagree.mercer is a former marine sargeant,Olympic gold medalist,world contending boxer(once held wbo title)so I have a hard time believing he would take a dive.mercer,Botha,Briggs all do mma to prolong their fight careers.ray has more honor than that.forget I just said this I forgot he tried to bribe Jesse ferguson 100000 to go down in their 1st fight.mercer wasn't in shape & lost.it was never proven but you have too wonder.maybe he did take a dive!
Because ONE guy Koed ONE other guy?
Maybe if he KOed the best fighter they had...
but do you know ANYTHING about Tim Sylvia?
That would be like Anderson Silva coming over and knocking out Roy Jones right now, and saying that UFC is better than Boxing because he just did that...
No.
I get what you're saying but realistically, Silva does not beat Jones in a boxing match.
Sorry Reed, but that comparison isn't good.
Anderson Silva is the cream of the crop in MMA. Mercer doesn't even box anymore and is so past his prime, he would need binoculars just to get a glimpse of it. You would have done better using a washed up MMA fight as an example to beat RJJ.
like ken shamrock lol
Because ONE guy Koed ONE other guy?
Maybe if he KOed the best fighter they had...
but do you know ANYTHING about Tim Sylvia?
That would be like Anderson Silva coming over and knocking out Roy Jones right now, and saying that UFC is better than Boxing because he just did that...
No.
Sorry Reed, but that comparison isn't good.
Anderson Silva is the cream of the crop in MMA. Mercer doesn't even box anymore and is so past his prime, he would need binoculars just to get a glimpse of it. You would have done better using a washed up MMA fight as an example to beat RJJ.
Boxing is a hundred time better than MMA, it's not even debatable. But MMA is a real sport that deserves respect, it's one on one combat and requires mental toughness and skills. They have to know wrestling and grappling at a high level, plus they have to work on striking too.
I mean most guys here are basketball or NFL fans and talk about the toughness of NFL and NBA players; how the hell they don't respect MMA guys. It's weird.
good point.I just don't like the sport because I don't like all the rules they made 10 years ago to prevent beer guzzling,bar brawlers like tank Abbott from having success.I early ufc he exploited their sport so they changed all the rules.no using the cage,no lowblows,no fish hooks(my favorite),etc.if no one agrees with me on the rule changes watch tank abbott first ufc appearance.that's when I liked ufc then they made weight classes & rules.If I have to watch guys wrestle I'll take abdullah"the butcher" digging a fork in someones head anyday over ufc.LOL!
The point is MMA fans can now shut the fuk up about saying "Boxers aren't fighter and they would get killed in MMA", they are both fight sports and the athletes should be respected. Although it is hard to take the sport of MMA seriously when a guy with a 2-1 record wins the UFC heavyweight title.
That's the point, now the mma fanboys can shut up and eat some crow :bukkake:
It wasn't fixed.it was only an exhibition fight not pro.watch the videos of the press conference.mercer called kimbo gutless for talking about going toe to toe but instead tackled him & choked him out.mercer is like a glorified tank Abbott but is 10 times the athlete.he was pissed at for not standing toe to toe.
If someone is paid, they need to make it look convincing, that's why Mercer said that
Exaxtly the Kimbo - Mercer figth was a work
Mercer needed the money.[/QUOTIt wasn't fixed.it was only an exhibition fight not pro.watch the videos of the press conference.mercer called kimbo gutless for talking about going toe to toe but instead tackled him & choked him out.mercer is like a glorified tank Abbott but is 10 times the athlete.he was pissed at for not standing toe to toe.
affliction dropped sylvia like a bad habit yesterday...LOL! What did sylvia say? I'm going to use ray as a stepping stone to his boxing career...LOL! He truly is an idiot from an a terrible sport.so in 10 seconds I wonder how high the mma will rank him.after all wasn't sylvia ufc hw champ recently?
yeah he was, and the longest reigning champ of the UFC
And Mercer beat Sylvia quicker than Fedor hahaha!
affliction dropped sylvia like a bad habit yesterday...LOL! What did sylvia say? I'm going to use ray as a stepping stone to his boxing career...LOL! He truly is an idiot from an a terrible sport.so in 10 seconds I wonder how high the mma will rank him.after all wasn't sylvia ufc hw champ recently?
There was so much money on the line with Kimbo. Elite spent too much money on him. I garauntee Mercer took a dive against Kimbo. Mercer fights for money. Mercer got payed more to get choked out early then he would'nt if he actually came to fight. You have to realize that Kimbo fight was BS it was just Gary Shaw trying to convice people that Kimbo was the real deal.
Exaxtly the Kimbo - Mercer figth was a work
Mercer needed the money.
I, for one, am delighted that the homosexual community finally has found a sport it can be accepted into. Good for them.
OMFG!! This made laugh really loud in the office, thanks man :cool2: