Floyd Money Mayweather is he that good?? Why I left the Mafia...By Lefty

There i stop with you. Your a stupid man. explain to me about what I said that was stupid from what you quoted me on go ahead I am listening...:wtf:....Lefty

While I am biased as a Mosley fan I am not dillusional. Mosley is 38 years young coming off a 15 month lay off by the time May rolls around. I have to say Floyd is the favorite in this bout. i do however think Mosley is live in the fight and will test Floyd in every way possible. Mosley's game plan and footwork will be life or deatha nd determine the fight. he has comparable hand speed and the edge in power IMO. So as long as he can cut off the ring and throw in combinations while mixing it up to the head and body he is a LIVE DAWG....But like I said I am not BURNER and dillusional the way he is about Paul Williams I see this fight being very competitive for the first half of the fight and then FLoyd pulling away in the last 3 or 4 rounds 8-4 Floyd....Lefty There i stop with you. Your a stupid man.

he takes the most lucrative fights out there for him...lefty. that's all there is to it, plain and simple. period. the guy's a salesman. i don't know how ppl still question his motives. he's a great fighter, the best in the game right now, but you won't see him fight other great fighters (if there are any) unless it makes "cents" for him. that's floyd. in order to like him, you must "understand" him. everybody would've rather seen mayweather-mosley instead of mayweather-marquez, but the fact remains he was offered 8 million for one of those fights, and 15 for the other.....easy choice, i can't knock dude for that. and if he was going through financial problems, it's not really that hard to figure out why he chose the fight he did. you dudes think too much. it ain't that hard. That would make sense if that is the case, but If he takes the most lucrative fights out there then why didn't he fight Cotto or Mosley before Hatton and JMM. You can't possibly believe that Hatton and JMM is more draw than Mosley or Cotto. Margarito offered $8 million and was turned down as well.

He took on Corley, Bruseles and then Gatti at 140 lbs for titles. he moved to 147 to fight Shamba Mitchell, Judah and Baldomir for the title. The cash cow came calling and he answered the bell and fought Oscar at 154lbs won a title there. Went back down to 147 to meet Hatton for another big pay day. All along people were calling for him to face legitimate 147lbs like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Williams and Mosley. I understood business is business and if made sense to bring in those dollars. Now whether it be due to negotiations his hands the WWE giving him millions to sign a contract with them he retired. Personally I think it had to do with the amount of money he made and the fact his hands were hurting him. he took a breather announced his retirement from the sport. I hold no grudges for that every man is entitled to call it quits when he feels he has no desire to continue. in our sport when you lose the desire to fight you often get hurt inside the ring. Fast forward to 2008 Floyd is in trouble with the IRS. His real estate investments have gone sour. he is robbed for over 7 mil in jewels. it seems the so called king might be prime for a comeback. Is it $$$ motivated fans and critics ask come fellas with Money Mayweather it is always about the money. So it is rumored he is in the gym training again and might be coming out of retirement to take on the TOP P4P fighters and earn himself a few nice paydays. Allow him to settle up with Uncle Sam and make a few margin calls bail out some real estate debts and so forth. I can't hate on him if you need to work then you need to work right? Bring on Floyd lets get him tuned up against a fighter and then throw him back in the fire with Cotto or Mosley....Heck lets see him get in their in a rematch with Hatton if he wants it......Manny is ripping through everyone I want to see who is the P4P King once and for all. bring it on i was thinking to myself. So here it comes May 2nd Pac vs Hatton everyone has been drooling over thr fight now for a few months and boom the announcement. the King is back!!! Floyd is coming out of retirement to fight JMM because sometimes you get what you wish for. Now I am thinking to myself I was hoping to see Floyd come back and fight I know JMM is no slouch but what happened to Cotto, Clottey, Mosley heck even get in there with Berto or Collazo for that matter. Ok so I swallowed that pill and accepted it I said to myself JMM is no slouch you can never measure the size of someones heart and JMM is a true warrior. Floyd is coming of a 18 month layoff and this will be a decent fight. Guess what? Boom Cotto defeats Clottey it seems tickets sales are down for Floyd and apparently there is an injury to Floyd ribs. What now possibly no fight on July 18th. I see some interviews past and present I watch a few old tapes of fights and honestly I am completely turned off by this hoodwink of a crook. I can't help it fellas I know the man has talent but he irritates me to the core. he talks out the left side of his mouth and sits on his brains. he tells so many lies and has so many excuses for not fighting this guy and not fighting that guy it is awful. he tells so many lies he forget what he said. i can't see how anyone would like someone who claims to be the best but is so reluctant to prove it. Tossing money at the camera's and into crowds come on. Like I said before if Floyd took on 3 top WW on his supposed hit list and Manny and went 2-2 in those fights but fought and gave us what we wanted I would remember those wars and think 41-2 all the titles and he fought this guy that guy and this guy I would look back and remember that instead of remembering the fights we didn't get.....Lefty he takes the most lucrative fights out there for him...lefty. that's all there is to it, plain and simple. period. the guy's a salesman. i don't know how ppl still question his motives. he's a great fighter, the best in the game right now, but you won't see him fight other great fighters (if there are any) unless it makes "cents" for him. that's floyd. in order to like him, you must "understand" him. everybody would've rather seen mayweather-mosley instead of mayweather-marquez, but the fact remains he was offered 8 million for one of those fights, and 15 for the other.....easy choice, i can't knock dude for that. and if he was going through financial problems, it's not really that hard to figure out why he chose the fight he did. you dudes think too much. it ain't that hard.

He took on Corley, Bruseles and then Gatti at 140 lbs for titles. he moved to 147 to fight Shamba Mitchell, Judah and Baldomir for the title. The cash cow came calling and he answered the bell and fought Oscar at 154lbs won a title there. Went back down to 147 to meet Hatton for another big pay day. All along people were calling for him to face legitimate 147lbs like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Williams and Mosley. I understood business is business and if made sense to bring in those dollars. Now whether it be due to negotiations his hands the WWE giving him millions to sign a contract with them he retired. Personally I think it had to do with the amount of money he made and the fact his hands were hurting him. he took a breather announced his retirement from the sport. I hold no grudges for that every man is entitled to call it quits when he feels he has no desire to continue. in our sport when you lose the desire to fight you often get hurt inside the ring. Fast forward to 2008 Floyd is in trouble with the IRS. His real estate investments have gone sour. he is robbed for over 7 mil in jewels. it seems the so called king might be prime for a comeback. Is it $$$ motivated fans and critics ask come fellas with Money Mayweather it is always about the money. So it is rumored he is in the gym training again and might be coming out of retirement to take on the TOP P4P fighters and earn himself a few nice paydays. Allow him to settle up with Uncle Sam and make a few margin calls bail out some real estate debts and so forth. I can't hate on him if you need to work then you need to work right? Bring on Floyd lets get him tuned up against a fighter and then throw him back in the fire with Cotto or Mosley....Heck lets see him get in their in a rematch with Hatton if he wants it......Manny is ripping through everyone I want to see who is the P4P King once and for all. bring it on i was thinking to myself. So here it comes May 2nd Pac vs Hatton everyone has been drooling over thr fight now for a few months and boom the announcement. the King is back!!! Floyd is coming out of retirement to fight JMM because sometimes you get what you wish for. Now I am thinking to myself I was hoping to see Floyd come back and fight I know JMM is no slouch but what happened to Cotto, Clottey, Mosley heck even get in there with Berto or Collazo for that matter. Ok so I swallowed that pill and accepted it I said to myself JMM is no slouch you can never measure the size of someones heart and JMM is a true warrior. Floyd is coming of a 18 month layoff and this will be a decent fight. Guess what? Boom Cotto defeats Clottey it seems tickets sales are down for Floyd and apparently there is an injury to Floyd ribs. What now possibly no fight on July 18th. I see some interviews past and present I watch a few old tapes of fights and honestly I am completely turned off by this hoodwink of a crook. I can't help it fellas I know the man has talent but he irritates me to the core. he talks out the left side of his mouth and sits on his brains. he tells so many lies and has so many excuses for not fighting this guy and not fighting that guy it is awful. he tells so many lies he forget what he said. i can't see how anyone would like someone who claims to be the best but is so reluctant to prove it. Tossing money at the camera's and into crowds come on. Like I said before if Floyd took on 3 top WW on his supposed hit list and Manny and went 2-2 in those fights but fought and gave us what we wanted I would remember those wars and think 41-2 all the titles and he fought this guy that guy and this guy I would look back and remember that instead of remembering the fights we didn't get.....Lefty Lefty, bro, i'm new here so i don't know you, but this post of yours is very objective and right on point. Not just because i agree with most of it if not all of it. In Floyd's defense, IMO this is all business for him, nothing more and nothing else. You can hate him for it which i do, or you can praise him, regardless he does bring alot to the table and he gets the job done. BTW, excellent post, thanks.

I don't get it what was the vidication? Beating a blown up LW in JMM or being part of the biggest fight in the sport falling apart. I put up a thread saying some things about Floyd being a smart business man but I still think he is crap until he faces a true WW this time around. If he fights Shanes and I truly hope they fight then there might be some vidication but until that happens all he has done is blown his shot at Manny and beat an over weight JMM....Lefty how about you make a thread about Manny Pacquiao's padded resume before he fought Barrera?:fing02: Sounds like a great Idea EASY my man why don't you and I will post my two cents init...Lefty

Lefty, take the cock out of your ass. Are you criticizing Margarito for fighting Carson jones? Did you criticize Cotto for fighting Jennings? Did you criticize Pac for fighting David Diaz? How do you even begin to criticize Floyd for fighting JMM after a 21 month layoff? It was a tune up fight that they were able to sell 1M PPVs with. You try so hard to be neutral sometimes, but you fail everytime. Neutrality isn't bashing every fighter equally. If you really want to try to come off as neutral, try following a poster like "Silencers". In this case I aready stated serveral times I am biased my man. But I am debating intelligently not bashing anyone read my other post before you insult me. And try to understand I know that you are ignorant to anything else that i say but try to understand i am also looking to create a buzz for my show friend. You know lant my own flag :usa:..lefty

Oh, and you still think Floyd blew the Duckquiao fight? :eek::chairshot No I didn;t say that check this post out.... His last three moves have been genius IMO. He has been shaping this fight from the very begining. 1) His first come back fight he takes on JMM. People call him a cherry picker amongst other things. This was done for one reason to obtain better bargaining leverage at the negotiations table. He takes out JMM in pretty easy fashion thus eliminating a public demand for a PAC vs JMM III. 2) He demands RANDOM TESTING for the fight with PAC on 3/13. When PAC made it a bigger thing than originally intended he puts an * next to PACS name in many of the common fans eyes. Thus the only fighter who is possibly compared to him as the BEST OF THIS ERA in many people eyes may have cheated. Even if he didn't walking away from 40 million in comparision to just giving blood RAISED some eyebrows. 3) He keeps his demand for RANDOM TESTING and says he is going to use it in every fight going forward to "CLEAN UP BOXING" PAC announces a fight with Clottey anther TOP RANK promoted fighter for the 3/13 date. NO SUCH TESTING is required. People are leaning back towards PAC and a good fight Floyd is left in limbo with out a dance partner. (no pun intended) 4) 1/18/09 Berto with draws from match with Mosley for Jan 30th date. Now possible match up between Floyd and Mosley lands in Floyds lap. Whether it goes down on March 13th or May1st undecided. But he puts the demand out there for RANDOM DRUG TEST with an admitted ROID user. (whether he knew about it or not he did admit it sorry Shane) Floyd can ink this deal he goes one up on Manny and also eliminates another potential opponent for Manny post his 3/13 date and inches himself a little closer to cornering Manny and shifting momentum back to GBP and himself at the negotiations table. Just my take on thing gentlemen agree or disagree....Lefty

lefty you favourin mosley over floyd? While I am biased as a Mosley fan I am not dillusional. Mosley is 38 years young coming off a 15 month lay off by the time May rolls around. I have to say Floyd is the favorite in this bout. i do however think Mosley is live in the fight and will test Floyd in every way possible. Mosley's game plan and footwork will be life or deatha nd determine the fight. he has comparable hand speed and the edge in power IMO. So as long as he can cut off the ring and throw in combinations while mixing it up to the head and body he is a LIVE DAWG....But like I said I am not BURNER and dillusional the way he is about Paul Williams I see this fight being very competitive for the first half of the fight and then FLoyd pulling away in the last 3 or 4 rounds 8-4 Floyd....Lefty

lefty you favourin mosley over floyd?

Shame you weren't on the ride for the past year or so Lefty. Vindication is sweet. I don't get it what was the vidication? Beating a blown up LW in JMM or being part of the biggest fight in the sport falling apart. I put up a thread saying some things about Floyd being a smart business man but I still think he is crap until he faces a true WW this time around. If he fights Shanes and I truly hope they fight then there might be some vidication but until that happens all he has done is blown his shot at Manny and beat an over weight JMM....Lefty

There I fixed it for you son....Lefty People don;t forget this thread...i am not a Floyd fan by any means...Lefty

i wasn't part of this stupid group. There I fixed it for you son....Lefty

There was/is a group called the Mayweather Mafia? Wow, i've been away for too long. i werent part of this stupid group.

How many people have beaten those two? C'mon you and I know there are always some weak beltholders out there. If zab is floyd's best win past 135 how much does that say? Look at all the people who have beaten him I cant talk to someone as ignorant as you. So if a fighter losses then losses again the guy that beat him the first time gets less credit? Baldomir was the lineal champ. Judah lost 95% of his fights after he lost to Baldo.

There was/is a group called the Mayweather Mafia? Wow, i've been away for too long.

This is exactly what i mean. So beating the champion doesnt make you the champion right? How many people have beaten those two? C'mon you and I know there are always some weak beltholders out there. If zab is floyd's best win past 135 how much does that say? Look at all the people who have beaten him

What i'm saying is, just because someone holds a title/belt, doesnt make them better than someone who doesnt hold a title. Baldomir was the lineal WW champ because he beat Zab, but are u gonna sit here and honestly tell me that Baldomir was better than Shane, Cotto, Margarito, etc.? Clottey was whooping his ass up until the DQ for headbutts. If I recall correctly, Clottey was on his way to a shutout before the dq. Stop trying to make Baldomir out to be this legitament threat in the WW division just because he beat Zab. Its about the quality of the opposition u face, not what straps they hold. Cotto beat Shane, while Floyd beat Baldomir. What win was better? You fail to remember that Cotto was NOT a top welterweight contender when Floyd fought Baldo, only Margarito and Mosley was and Mosley already backed out of a fight with Floyd. This is just getting so repetitive, like i said before i was one of Floyds fans that critisized him for NOT fighting Margarito. But this was not out of substitution for the Baldo fight. For me the Baldo fight got him the lineal title at 147 which is more important than a win against Margo at that time, but i expected him to fight Margo after. And for obvious reasons Cottos win over Shane was better than Floyds over Baldo but this is with hindsight as his win looks greater now due to how bad he dismatled Margo.

This is exactly what i mean. So beating the champion doesnt make you the champion right? What i'm saying is, just because someone holds a title/belt, doesnt make them better than someone who doesnt hold a title. Baldomir was the lineal WW champ because he beat Zab, but are u gonna sit here and honestly tell me that Baldomir was better than Shane, Cotto, Margarito, etc.? Clottey was whooping his ass up until the DQ for headbutts. If I recall correctly, Clottey was on his way to a shutout before the dq. Stop trying to make Baldomir out to be this legitament threat in the WW division just because he beat Zab. Its about the quality of the opposition u face, not what straps they hold. Cotto beat Shane, while Floyd beat Baldomir. What win was better?

Floyd fans are human after all, there's only so much of his bullshit people can take I suppose. If Cotto ruins his plans to fight Pacman I sense another teary retirement coming up.