I'm noticing as I go through the web that many sports writers had the fight for Cotto and some even had it at 116-111. Sometimes you need to take the emotions of being a cotto hater or lover out of the equation. That's why i look at the writers and so called experts because they view the fight as a fight not as a fan, well some do.
Associated press had it 116-112 cotto
Dan Rafael(espn) had it 116-111 cotto
Eric Sloan (Boxing Examiner) had it 114-113 cotto
Ben Thompson (FIGHTHYPE) had it 115-112 Cotto
Patrick Gutierrez (Fox Sports) had it 114-113 Clottey
Cliff Rold (BoxingScene.com) had it 115-112 for Clottey
Some say it was a robbery, i say it was a close fight. If Clottey would've gotten the decision I would've been ok with that. The Cotto lovers and Cotto haters just see it different.
I agree with Jack Donovan. Rounds 3 and 10 were the swing rounds, the rounds that could have gone either way. I gave round 3 to Cotto and Round 10 to Clottey.
Cotto: 1,3,4,6,11,12
Clottey: 2,5,7,8,9,10
Cotto- 114-113. Definitely think Cotto won.
And I agree with Antonio. Those compubox numbers are fukking bullshit. Cotto landed wayy more punches than that.
Cotto landed at least 10 clean left hooks that snapped Clottey's head back. And a lot of those punches did get through the guard when Clottey was in the corner. I think part of the problem is a lot of people count partially blocked as fully blocked. If it deflects off the gloves and still lands on the head, it should be counted. For example that gif in some people's sig of Clottey taking those punches and shaking his head. Those all got through and landed. I bet compubox counted half though.
Yes but they weren't significant punches that changed the round or fight for that matter. I don't know if you box or boxed or even spar but a partially defelcted shot loses almost all it's power, believe me.
I thought clottey did a very good job of defending Cotto's shots, especially to the body.
I was rooting for Clottey to win,but I scored da fight 4 Cotto
I had it 114-113 Cotto due to the Kd in da 1st round. Sort of Like JMM-Pacquiao 2.Anywayz I felt that @ timez Clotteys inactivity/the time he had hiz chance to do damage but didnt cost him the W over Miguel Cotto.Major Propz to Miguel for fighting on with that big azz gash
I never saw both of JMM v. Pacman. Is it true that Pacman REALLY lost the 2nd fight or could've been judged like Cotto v Clottey?
I was rooting for Clottey to win,but I scored da fight 4 Cotto
I had it 114-113 Cotto due to the Kd in da 1st round. Sort of Like JMM-Pacquiao 2.Anywayz I felt that @ timez Clotteys inactivity/the time he had hiz chance to do damage but didnt cost him the W over Miguel Cotto.Major Propz to Miguel for fighting on with that big azz gash
I had it 114-113 for Clottey, he landed the much cleaner, harder punches and was chasing Cotto around the ring all night long.
Cotto had his moments when he had Clottey against the ropes but even then most of those shots were blocked. I can't really remember Cotto landing any significant shots other than a right hand in the middle rounds.
Clotteyon the other hand was landing big in the 5th round before he was thrown on the floor.
Close fight but an honest decision would have been a draw, no way Cotto did enough to out point Clottey even with the flash knockdown in the 1st.
Cotto landed at least 10 clean left hooks that snapped Clottey's head back. And a lot of those punches did get through the guard when Clottey was in the corner. I think part of the problem is a lot of people count partially blocked as fully blocked. If it deflects off the gloves and still lands on the head, it should be counted. For example that gif in some people's sig of Clottey taking those punches and shaking his head. Those all got through and landed. I bet compubox counted half though.
I had it 114-113 for Clottey, he landed the much cleaner, harder punches and was chasing Cotto around the ring all night long.
Cotto had his moments when he had Clottey against the ropes but even then most of those shots were blocked. I can't really remember Cotto landing any significant shots other than a right hand in the middle rounds.
Clotteyon the other hand was landing big in the 5th round before he was thrown on the floor.
Close fight but an honest decision would have been a draw, no way Cotto did enough to out point Clottey even with the flash knockdown in the 1st. 114-113 for Clottey? I'm ok with that, just cannot stand people that say cotto beat clottey easily or clottey beat cotto easily.114-113 for either or draw.
I had it 114-113 for Clottey, he landed the much cleaner, harder punches and was chasing Cotto around the ring all night long.
Cotto had his moments when he had Clottey against the ropes but even then most of those shots were blocked. I can't really remember Cotto landing any significant shots other than a right hand in the middle rounds.
Clotteyon the other hand was landing big in the 5th round before he was thrown on the floor.
Close fight but an honest decision would have been a draw, no way Cotto did enough to out point Clottey even with the flash knockdown in the 1st.
what I do know is that Williams will knock Clottey the **** out if they ever fight. Horrible, horrible choice from Clottey, why would he call out Williams when Cotto was able to punch through his guard and corner him? Does he not think Williams is capable of cornering him and punching through his guard? I think Clottey thinks he is better then an older Wright, I don't think Id agree to that.
Probably because Paul Williams almost has the same results vs Margarito that Cotto had vs Clottey, and Clottey almost beat Margarito with 1 hand. Paul Williams won the Margarito fight 115-113, 115-113 and 116-112, got cut over left eye and got beat up in 11th rd.
I think Williams punches harder then people think, and I don't think Clotteys defense is as good as an old Wrights. Cotto was punching through Clotteys guard!
Williams has underated power but i would say at this stage, Clottey has the better defense over Wright.
Wright's defense has declined through the years.
Cotto was getting through his guard sometimes but not alot.
I don't think so.
Clottey is very durable and has top notch defense.
Williams would clearly outwork Clottey to a decision.
I think Williams punches harder then people think, and I don't think Clotteys defense is as good as an old Wrights. Cotto was punching through Clotteys guard!
what I do know is that Williams will knock Clottey the **** out if they ever fight.
I don't think so.
Clottey is very durable and has top notch defense.
Williams would clearly outwork Clottey to a decision.
what I do know is that Williams will knock Clottey the **** out if they ever fight. Horrible, horrible choice from Clottey, why would he call out Williams when Cotto was able to punch through his guard and corner him? Does he not think Williams is capable of cornering him and punching through his guard? I think Clottey thinks he is better then an older Wright, I don't think Id agree to that.
I'm noticing as I go through the web that many sports writers had the fight for Cotto and some even had it at 116-111. Sometimes you need to take the emotions of being a cotto hater or lover out of the equation. That's why i look at the writers and so called experts because they view the fight as a fight not as a fan, well some do.
Associated press had it 116-112 cotto
Dan Rafael(espn) had it 116-111 cotto
Eric Sloan (Boxing Examiner) had it 114-113 cotto
Ben Thompson (FIGHTHYPE) had it 115-112 Cotto
Patrick Gutierrez (Fox Sports) had it 114-113 Clottey
Cliff Rold (BoxingScene.com) had it 115-112 for Clottey
Some say it was a robbery, i say it was a close fight. If Clottey would've gotten the decision I would've been ok with that. The Cotto lovers and Cotto haters just see it different.
I agree. I had it 114-113 for Cotto (rounds 1,3,4,6,10,12). I could see giving round 11 to Cotto too (I gave it to him the first time I watched the fight but gave it to Clottey the second and third time).
To me, it was a 6-6 round fight with the KD being the difference. Very close fight that could've gone either way but I still believe Cotto pulled it out. Like I said, I can see a 115-112 or 114-113 for Cotto or 114-113 for Clottey, but those are the only three scores I think are reasonable.