Heard that the ticket sales aren't going as well as planned. So they "just so happened" to re-schedule the fight for Mexican Independence Day...no not Cinco de Mayo.....any thoughts?
Personally....I believe the injury is real....and I don't think Floyd would go in there and fight with an injury that could come back to haunt him in the fight...."Van Dam against that gorilla from New Zealand in the movie Lionheart"...I can see it now....Marquez tags Floyd in the ribs...and Floyd winces...and Marquez point at his ribs and waves his finger in the classic Dikembe Motumbo way....
Discuss?
"Sources tell Maxboxing that no more than 3,000 tickets were sold, and ticket brokers weren't exactly rushing to put in orders. It's difficult to have a secondary market when there isn't much of a demand for the event to begin with. Not only was this fight seen as a physical mismatch in many circles, the tickets (which ranged from $1,000 to $150) seemed a bit pricey, particularly in this current economy." - Steve Kim, Maxboxing
I don't think it is broke ribs in that sence, but pulling the catilidge off the bone (going from what Schaeffer has said) that would most likely would not be cause in sparing but by over streaching the cartilidge (this would be an example that Floyd is not a young man any more, he tried to do somethign his body used to do and his body would just not allow it anymore).
damn that sux for floyd. I guess he shouldn't have taken that "vacation".
I give Floyd the benefit of the doubt regarding his injury....I mean...during this time...about 1 month away from fight night....it gets real intense during camp...isn't this usually the time that you go at it 110% against sparring partners and conditioning? So I am going with the "minority" of fans and say give Floyd time to recover. BUT........if down the road something comes up...."Doctor's say Mayweather was medically cleared for original date"...or something like that...it could really come back to bite Floyd in the @$$....
Purpose of this thread was to get everyone's opinion on what I've been reading EVERYWHERE.....not to HATE or add fuel to the fire....
That is was I respect, if something comes up saying that it will bite him in the ass, and it will be more obvious he did it to bring more attention to the fight... but until that happens we don't know.
I don't if it happened in sparring or normal training (most likely sparring)... all I read though is it happened in the training camp and he tried to work through it but it was way to painful to go through it...
Do you think HBO, Golden Boy, the sponsors would allow him to just walk away with no proof.
What is more likely that Floyd is human and got injured (it is something that happeanes you know) or that there is some large conspriracy because the fight would not sell well.
It could be a little of both also, he is injured but he could come back before that but they are just deciding to move it to a better date.
The only way to recover from any rib injury is rest with no real physical activity. So even if the only has to take off 2 weeks that is 2 weeks no training (to me that would be a really short recovery and he would be risking reinjury) so Floyd would want a full training camp most likely (6 weeks) under that scenario. If they have to wait that long (8 weeks total) why not jsut wait until September and play it safe with the injury.
Believe whatever you want, but the most likely conclusion is that Floyd is really injured.
I give Floyd the benefit of the doubt regarding his injury....I mean...during this time...about 1 month away from fight night....it gets real intense during camp...isn't this usually the time that you go at it 110% against sparring partners and conditioning? So I am going with the "minority" of fans and say give Floyd time to recover. BUT........if down the road something comes up...."Doctor's say Mayweather was medically cleared for original date"...or something like that...it could really come back to bite Floyd in the @$$....
Purpose of this thread was to get everyone's opinion on what I've been reading EVERYWHERE.....not to HATE or add fuel to the fire....
I feel you larry, I really do. But I will not be like everyone else on here and jump to conclusions and automatically assume something because the majority is. As I said, with an injury situation, I PERSONALLY need more information. Is that fair?
Exactly the same as me... not saying its real or fake, but no need to jump to conclusions, Floyd is human he is able to gain injuries. About Mexican day, maybe it is the situation that he is injured and can't fight on that day... and they have fought if they have to reschedule it they might as well have it on that Mexican day thing to draw more attention to it. You might as well make the best out of a bad situation, if he has an injury... they might have thought fuck it we will put it back to then where Mexican's can watch there number 1 fighter on there parade day thing (sorry don't know anything about this holiday).
I aint excusing what they said, they have a good point and could be onto something and could be right... but there is no need to jump to conclusions as if the guy isn't even allowed or able to gain an injury. All I am saying is people should wait a bit to get a bit more information instead if jumping to conclusions... as you said... if it was for ticket sales, then we could call Floyd out on it... as fans (not stans).
Nobody can comment on Mayweathers injury. Nobody is qualified or knows anything about Mayweathers injury!
People saying he is now scared or whatever other crap i've been reading, the fact is this fight will happen in August or September so get used to it- Floyd is back to rule the sport, even if it is a little delayed
For the sake of boxing...there better be a medical report confirming this "injury" considering how Floyd has been portraying himself as of late....otherwise...his "draw ability" could be shot to hell....
Do you think HBO, Golden Boy, the sponsors would allow him to just walk away with no proof.
What is more likely that Floyd is human and got injured (it is something that happeanes you know) or that there is some large conspriracy because the fight would not sell well.
It could be a little of both also, he is injured but he could come back before that but they are just deciding to move it to a better date.
The only way to recover from any rib injury is rest with no real physical activity. So even if the only has to take off 2 weeks that is 2 weeks no training (to me that would be a really short recovery and he would be risking reinjury) so Floyd would want a full training camp most likely (6 weeks) under that scenario. If they have to wait that long (8 weeks total) why not jsut wait until September and play it safe with the injury.
Believe whatever you want, but the most likely conclusion is that Floyd is really injured.
Injuries can happean to anyone, Floyd is human. Floyd is not as young as he once was, so what his body may be able to do now may not be the same as what he was used to in the past.
He tried to do the wrong thing and his body just did not agree.
He could be bullshitting but you better show me some real proof not speculation and theories.
For the sake of boxing...there better be a medical report confirming this "injury" considering how Floyd has been portraying himself as of late....otherwise...his "draw ability" could be shot to hell....
All I'm going to say on this is where are the posters who demanded to see Haye's medical report or wondered why Haye's team hadn't sent a report to the Wlad camp before/as he pulled out of the fight? (Did he ever actually send a report, by the way?)
I'm sure some of those same people who dumped all over Haye for pulling out are not criticizing Floyd for this, or doubting anything in the slightest. The lack of information is telling, and the poor ticket sales can't be denied. Who knows, but it is definitely interesting...
I don't think Haye's camp ever submitted any medical report...not yet anyway...
Everything is all speculation except for the FACT that Floyd has a legit injury...can't wait for the next couple of days....should shed more light.
All I'm going to say on this is where are the posters who demanded to see Haye's medical report or wondered why Haye's team hadn't sent a report to the Wlad camp before/as he pulled out of the fight? (Did he ever actually send a report, by the way?)
I'm sure some of those same people who dumped all over Haye for pulling out are not criticizing Floyd for this, or doubting anything in the slightest. The lack of information is telling, and the poor ticket sales can't be denied. Who knows, but it is definitely interesting...
If Floyd was "keeping in shape" while on vacation...like he says he did...shouldn't his body still be acustomed to his "regular routines"? Or maybe....just maybe...he is taking the Marquez fight seriuously and he did hurt himself doing some new tricks.....:thinking:
Injuries can happean to anyone, Floyd is human. Floyd is not as young as he once was, so what his body may be able to do now may not be the same as what he was used to in the past.
He tried to do the wrong thing and his body just did not agree.
He could be bullshitting but you better show me some real proof not speculation and theories.
Look at the ESPN or CNN article on the matter. Richard Schaeffer talks about it being a muscle/cartalidge thing as opposed to straight broken ribs, which in medical terms is still considered fractured ribs. This is not an easy injury to fake and get away with it.
He would not have needed to get hit to cause this it could have been a sudden movement or moving his torso in a way that his torso just didn't want.
If Floyd was "keeping in shape" while on vacation...like he says he did...shouldn't his body still be acustomed to his "regular routines"? Or maybe....just maybe...he is taking the Marquez fight seriuously and he did hurt himself doing some new tricks.....:thinking:
the extent of floyd's injury is less pertinent to me than why and how did floyd's rib get injured.
if floyd got hurt to the rib in sparring, then I wanna know who did it and how he did it.
I don't think it is broke ribs in that sence, but pulling the catilidge off the bone (going from what Schaeffer has said) that would most likely would not be cause in sparing but by over streaching the cartilidge (this would be an example that Floyd is not a young man any more, he tried to do somethign his body used to do and his body would just not allow it anymore).
the extent of floyd's injury is less pertinent to me than why and how did floyd's rib get injured.
if floyd got hurt to the rib in sparring, then I wanna know who did it and how he did it.
What exactly is the extent of Floyd's injury? Ribs I know...but what...cracked, broken, bruised? Sparring with who? Hatton....Valero....Morales....? Floyd's camp keeping quiet on the whole issue...."Rib injury in training camp postpones fight".....can Mayweather's camp give a little more info?
That is the information that we have to wait on. It should be reported soon.
What exactly is the extent of Floyd's injury? Ribs I know...but what...cracked, broken, bruised? Sparring with who? Hatton....Valero....Morales....? Floyd's camp keeping quiet on the whole issue...."Rib injury in training camp postpones fight".....can Mayweather's camp give a little more info?
Look at the ESPN or CNN article on the matter. Richard Schaeffer talks about it being a muscle/cartalidge thing as opposed to straight broken ribs, which in medical terms is still considered fractured ribs. This is not an easy injury to fake and get away with it.
He would not have needed to get hit to cause this it could have been a sudden movement or moving his torso in a way that his torso just didn't want.
What exactly is the extent of Floyd's injury? Ribs I know...but what...cracked, broken, bruised? Sparring with who? Hatton....Valero....Morales....? Floyd's camp keeping quiet on the whole issue...."Rib injury in training camp postpones fight".....can Mayweather's camp give a little more info?
Go to FightHype
Fighthype is not a very accurate site.
What is most likely that he is injured (this does happean to humans after all) or some crazy conspiricy theory to drum up sales. Floyd was getting paid a ton if they sold zero tickets, and he is not getting that paycheck putting off the fight (what happeaned to all the Floyd needs money talk).
In this article they do not even question his injury, but if ticket sales play a role then you have to be questioning his injury, as a piece of journalism this is pretty much rubbish (I guess unless it proves a point someone is trying to make).
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/fractured-rib-topic-overview
6 weeks rest+ 6 week training camp= 12 weeks 12 weeks= about 3 months
about 3 months from now is mid September.
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