Props to Manny and all... but just want to ask everyone something...

The fight is fine at 143 & up. So long as as there isn't a stipulation where shane can't weight in over say 150 come fight night or something like that i dont see the big deal. both guys are taking a risk, they're just leveling the playfield. game on if it did happen.

Shane is going to Oscar himself if he agree's to drop down much in weight. Then Pac will have another weight drained/ancient great on his record. If it is fought at Shanes natural weight then I cant see how Pac see's the final bell. no shiit, mosley is middleweight on fight night while pac is only a welterweight. that fight at mosley's natural weight is a mismatch.

as well you should as long as mosley starts rehydrating right away he won't be that bad, but he won't be peak, but given the size advantage a peak smm destroys pac. i'm sorry but mosley is simply too big. yeah, but without the catchweight pac has no chance actually dlh was 147 on fight night not 143. mosley would be stupid to weight under 147 lbs on fight night. no, mosley will definitely not try to come in under 147 lbs on fight night I agree with everything you said... but we had a mix up... when I said 143, I meant Mosley might not be allowed to weigh anything more than 143 on fight night like De La Hoya couldn't weigh any more than 147. If they do what they did with DLH and say for every pound you put on over the limit you owe us a certain sum Mosley will go into the fight under 147 cause its obvious its only for the money. Just to clear that up... :fing02:

Shane is going to Oscar himself if he agree's to drop down much in weight. Then Pac will have another weight drained/ancient great on his record. If it is fought at Shanes natural weight then I cant see how Pac see's the final bell.

Shane is challenging Manny for the P4P Kingship and loads of Money. It is his obligation to go down in weight to do that and not the other way around. 100% agree

some people want Pac fight this so-called TOP WW at their division and they call it fair.

Why he can fight Oscar at 147 but not Shane, sad. I Belive That Was also A Catch Weight Cos DLH Was A 154 Pounder.

Right, first of all... props to Manny for taking a fight with Shane who is quite a lot bigger than him, respect him for that. as well you should However, it says at a catch-weight... and I am wondering how Shane will fair at anything under 147... in all honesty I cant see Shane being a healthy fighter at anything under 147 and I feel if the catch weight is too low he will be extremely dehydrated and weight drained. as long as mosley starts rehydrating right away he won't be that bad, but he won't be peak, but given the size advantage a peak smm destroys pac. i'm sorry but mosley is simply too big. He probably wont be as dehydrated as DLH was, but if they do a catch weight at around 143, I feel Shane will still be dehydrated and weight drained... yeah, but without the catchweight pac has no chance especially if his fight night weight has to stay at 143 like in the DLH fight... actually dlh was 147 on fight night not 143. I mean I know fighters manage to rehydrate there bodies by fight night and in Shane's case weight 155+ in a Welterweight fight... but if he has to weigh under 147 for this fight at the weigh-in then it could take a toll on his body and I don't think he will be fighting fit... mosley would be stupid to weight under 147 lbs on fight night. That's what I am thinking anyway, I know nothing has been finalized or signed yet... but it looks like its heading in that direction. no, mosley will definitely not try to come in under 147 lbs on fight night

DING DING DING!!! we have a wiiner....noone's putting a gun to shane's head making him lose 3lbs cotto is busy, berto just fought, he doesnt want any of PWill..and neither of those 3 can bring in the money that a PAC fight can...shane wants to cash out after a long and illustrious career Yeah, believe me I aint blaming Manny for it... I just don't think the fight is unfair both ways, at 147 its unfair on Pacquiao, at anything under is unfair on Shane. If you aint the one getting into the ring then dont worry about it. just be a fan and watch the fight. both guys know what their getting into so if they agree to fight then god bless them for entertaining the fans and fighting to please the fans with the best fights possible I get what your saying, but all I am saying is do you think the catch weight will affect him and make him weight drained...

I respect the Pacman, but why isn't this fight at 147? Didn't he fight at 147 already? Why the catchweight for Shane? I still love the fact that Manny emphatically said, "Let's do it." But I wish it would be at 147. That would have added to his legacy, surely. No questions asked. Shane is challenging Manny for the P4P Kingship and loads of Money. It is his obligation to go down in weight to do that and not the other way around.

DING DING DING!!! we have a wiiner....noone's putting a gun to shane's head making him lose 3lbs cotto is busy, berto just fought, he doesnt want any of PWill..and neither of those 3 can bring in the money that a PAC fight can...shane wants to cash out after a long and illustrious career exactly and to top it off if fraud jr. wasnt such a pu$$y, we would see fraud vs shane. thank you pac for having balls and not a cunt like fraud and for giving shane his payday he deserves.

If you aint the one getting into the ring then dont worry about it. just be a fan and watch the fight. both guys know what their getting into so if they agree to fight then god bless them for entertaining the fans and fighting to please the fans with the best fights possible

Your telling me DLH wasn't dehydrated? And Manny just made his look dehydrated... I aint taking away his other wins at lower weights that's irrelevant. However, all I am saying is... we saw DLH was weight drained at 147, you can't say he wasn't and Manny just made him look it cause he is all that, because it is the truth and you are blind if you don't see it (no disrespect to you of course). If I was DLH, I would have fired who ever was incharge of his nutrition. How he came in on fight night weighing less then Manny, is shocking (credit bad management of who was taking care of his nutrition)! Manny had to jump 2 weight class from light weight and he was fine. So that's not Manny's fault that he came into the fight better prepared then Oscar did.

would you give Shane credit if he beat up the much smaller Pacquiao? a catchweight is only fair. Shane is a hypocrite, and a cheater. He give mayweather shit for fighting JMM but thinks ok to fight Pacquiao.. I will never give mosley credit for nothing. just like i dont give margarito credit for nothing. the double standards on these two is crazy. IMO I hope Mayweather fight Mosley under the same circumstance Pacquiao is fighting Mosley ... since mosley is willing to fight at a handicap to make big fights.

manny i believe is pound for pound king and all but whats all the bullshit about a catchweight why cant he fight at 147 like he did wid dlh... you know freddie the joke coach roach has something to do wid it if this happens i hope shane dont come in weight drained if this fight were to happen I don't expect Manny to fight Mosley at 147... he will be madly out weight and at a huge disadvantage... but this goes the same for Mosley to fight under 147, he will be weight drained and wont be the same fighter like DLH was... it seems like Shane is doing it just for the money.

It's just as bad for Pacquiao to go up in weight than it is for Shane to go down in weight. Hence, catchweight. Pacquiao was tiny at 147, strong but very small. Mosley will be dehydrated, last time he weight below 145 was 1999, last time he weight below 147 was 2002... it will take a much bigger toll on Mosley going down in weight than Pacquiao going up... especially if they do another De La Hoya and say he can't weigh any more than 147 on fight night because he usually weight 155+.

Why he can fight Oscar at 147 but not Shane, sad.Why can't Shane fight a welterweight after talking shit to Floyd for not fighting one, sad.

manny i believe is pound for pound king and all but whats all the bullshit about a catchweight why cant he fight at 147 like he did wid dlh... you know freddie the joke coach roach has something to do wid it if this happens i hope shane dont come in weight drained if this fight were to happen

Are you surprised that before the said fight nobody ever gave Manny a chance.......then right after the fight excuses of biblical proportions are being thrown out? Pacquiao VS Barrera I Before: Barrera is P4P #3, its a walk in the park After: His camp was on fire and he was shot Pacquiao VS Marquez I Before: Marquez is the technical master of all After: Judges are corrupt Pacquiao Vs Morales I Before: Morales was a legend After: I told you so! Pacquiao VS Velazquez Before: Hector is a top fighter After: He is a bum Pacquiao VS Morales II Before: He will get another beating from Morales After: Morales is shot Pacquiao VS Larios Before: Larios is a very durable fighter After: Izzy KOed him at 4 while Pac can't Pacquiao VS Morales III Before: It was only a bad night, Morales will prevail After: He was shot (again) Pacquiao VS Solis Before: He is undefeated After: He is a bum Pacquiao VS Barrera II Before: Barrera will sought revenge After: Barrera is shot Pacquiao VS Marquez II Before: Marquez would counter him all night long and win After: Judges are corrupt Pacquiao VS Diaz Before: No way can Pac win against a legit lightweight After: Diaz was a paper champ Pacquiao VS Hoya Before: Hoya TKO1 Pacquiao and thats with mercy After: Hoya is shot!!!! He took a dive!! Pacquiao VS Hatton Before: Hatton is a live fighter, has not lost @140, bigger in size. After: Hatton is overrated I agree with all you said, besides the DLH and Marquez 2 bit... I had Marquez winning, and lets be fair DLH was weight drained.

manny makes fighters look old and drained, it's not his fault people keep blaming mannys opponent shortcomings, but it's not them, it's just manny is all that. they dont wanna admit manny is that good Your telling me DLH wasn't dehydrated? And Manny just made his look dehydrated... I aint taking away his other wins at lower weights that's irrelevant. However, all I am saying is... we saw DLH was weight drained at 147, you can't say he wasn't and Manny just made him look it cause he is all that, because it is the truth and you are blind if you don't see it (no disrespect to you of course).