Shane "THE JUICE MAN" Mosley Dont need Mayweather, He is the DRAW !!! ^__^

Shane is not a big draw compare to someone like Manny, Floyd, and DLH. Floyd made more in one fight than Mosley has made in his entire career. Shane and Money need to stop ducking each other and stop making excuses. Stop talking in the media and fight. Do you think Mosley can millions of PPV buys without fighting a big name fighter? But... but they play basketball together!

Shane is not a big draw compare to someone like Manny, Floyd, and DLH. Floyd made more in one fight than Mosley has made in his entire career. Shane and Money need to stop ducking each other and stop making excuses. Stop talking in the media and fight. Do you think Mosley can millions of PPV buys without fighting a big name fighter?

Bruce Binkow, the chief marketing officer of Golden Boy Promotions, on Dec. 30 offered a 14-day cutoff as a compromise via instant message to Top Rank president Todd duBoef, who replied on Dec. 31 that “14 is no good.” Schaefer said he believes the fight can be salvaged over the weekend and the first step is making certain that Pacquiao is aware of Mayweather’s 14-day offer. “There are reports that Manny is not aware of this and we want to make certain that he knows what Floyd has agreed to do,” Schaefer said. However, Koncz said he was informed of the offer by promoter Bob Arum and that he brought it directly to Pacquiao, who would not even consider it. Koncz said Pacquiao was very firm in his decision. “Bob called and told us about the 14 days and I brought that to Manny and he said, ‘I told you, we’re not agreeing to that,’ and that was pretty much it,” Koncz said.

I like Shance Roidsley better.

flomos are bunch of bipolar hypocrites

YOU DEFEND A CHEATER...WHY? BECAUSE OF WHAT? your love of the sport! Get the **** out of here. People risk their lives in boxing. You Can called what Mosley did as being honest, but what it is, is cheating. and the difference is, I hold no sympathy in my heart for cheaters. Especially in a sport where one shot can killed you. And to simply brush off what Mosley did as some kind of mistake is something I am not cool with, because what about the fighters who didnt cheat and had their careers cut short because of injuries. What about the fighters who had to get in the ring with a steroid using Mosley and a plaster up Margarito, and basically put their lives in danger because these guys wanted to take the easy way out to glory and fame instead of putting the work in. People say All Mosley is some kind of warrior...Is he really? What Kind of Warrior step i into the ring against another man knowing he has illegally taken drugs to make sure he can defeat his helpless opponent. Shit I would fight everybody too if i had plaster in my gloves or if i was using steroids. wouldnt you? because you know you would have an advantage the other fighter wouldnt have. That right there lets me know that these guys are cowards. and to simply say and to not consider the consequences of those actions, is what I like to called fu*king bullshit. Margarito got his career basically ended for cheating what happen to mosely? Barry Bonds is now a black sheep in baseball for cheating what happen to mosely? Cheating is unacceptable, and Especially the kind of cheating that can seriously damage another persons life. Someone just made a thread about Mosley Cheating and it went into detail about exactly what mosley did... http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276863 I admit Mosley probably hasn't been perfect, but you still didn't take into account the points I made about Mayweather when it came to coming in as a Middleweight against a smaller fighter. If he would've KOd JMM, that would've made the incident look worse. So I guess I need to take back what I said about Floyd being a pussy for going the distance with a smaller guy. But he still cheated by blowing up to 160 against a 37-year old Featherweight. You don't think that manipulating the weight system is dangerous? Like I said, look at Gatti-Gamache. Floyd did the same thing, but in a more slick way to make it look like it was part of the contract. He did it with Oscar De La Hoya's and Richard Schaeffer's help too. These are the same guys that have screwed Mosley out of his fight with Floyd by shoving Hatton down our throats and turning JMM into a sacrificial lamb. There is a reason why Mosley and Hopkins are starting to turn their backs on the company.

Why don't you hold your boyfriend accountable for cheating the system? He pulled a Gatti-Gamache like move with a guy who fought 50 of his 55 fights at 126. At least Mosley did what he did with a guy in his own weight class. Yeah, go ahead and say that Mosley lost the second fight with De La Hoya. But at least he did some damage with the punches he landed unlike Floyd did with his powder puff punching pussy ass. Another form of cheating is constantly picking on tailor made opponents and not giving the boxing fans the fights they want. After Mosley whips Floyd's WBC cousin in Berto, it's too bad that he'll have to give up that same belt for not fighting a guy he already beat in Collazo. You can bring Paul Williams (Who I'm a fan of) in the equation. Floyd's name was mentioned in the post fight interview of Paul's victory over Margarito. And Floyd said he didn't even know who Williams was on Leon's web site. At least Mosley is an honest guy and admits that it's a hard fight. I notice of how right when Paul Williams moved up in weight, Floyd came out of retirement. Lol. YOU DEFEND A CHEATER...WHY? BECAUSE OF WHAT? your love of the sport! Get the **** out of here. People risk their lives in boxing. You Can called what Mosley did as being honest, but what it is, is cheating. and the difference is, I hold no sympathy in my heart for cheaters. Especially in a sport where one shot can killed you. And to simply brush off what Mosley did as some kind of mistake is something I am not cool with, because what about the fighters who didnt cheat and had their careers cut short because of injuries. What about the fighters who had to get in the ring with a steroid using Mosley and a plaster up Margarito, and basically put their lives in danger because these guys wanted to take the easy way out to glory and fame instead of putting the work in. People say All Mosley is some kind of warrior...Is he really? What Kind of Warrior step i into the ring against another man knowing he has illegally taken drugs to make sure he can defeat his helpless opponent. Shit I would fight everybody too if i had plaster in my gloves or if i was using steroids. wouldnt you? because you know you would have an advantage the other fighter wouldnt have. That right there lets me know that these guys are cowards. and to simply say and to not consider the consequences of those actions, is what I like to called fu*king bullshit. Margarito got his career basically ended for cheating what happen to mosely? Barry Bonds is now a black sheep in baseball for cheating what happen to mosely? Cheating is unacceptable, and Especially the kind of cheating that can seriously damage another persons life. Someone just made a thread about Mosley Cheating and it went into detail about exactly what mosley did... http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276863

Here is the thing Danny, I am not an complete asshole. But you know like I know Mosley has not went through the court of Public Opinion like he should have or Margarito has...and you know it... My feet are set in stone on my belief that until Shane Mosley receive some kind of punishment for his cheating he should not IMO given any slack. and I bet Margarito will never get another big fight again, but Mosley on the other hand is quite possibly about to fight the p4p#1 fighter in the sport... What kind of message does that send to the fans and to other fighters about cheating... Is the message. You can cheat as long as you are a nice guy? You can cheat as long as you dont get caught on fight night? You can cheat as long as you admitt it after the fact? You can cheat and still be considered a great fighter, and can be considered greater then some fighters who didnt cheat...? This is bullshit and you know it... The man was never punish for his action...never. and the fans havent treated him like a steroid user...they overlook it because Shane Mosely is a nice guy... and then they say shit, like he deserves an oppurntunity over fighters who never cheated...??? WTF??? I guess when Margarito gets off suspension it should be no problem for him to get big fights ahead of fighters like clottey, berto, and Williams because Margarito deserve's it ....:thinking: People Call Mosley a warrior why? People Call Mosley a true fighter why? The man cheated for who knows how long ... Mosley should never again be put in the same sentence as the great fighters in boxing who didnt cheat to achieve what they achieve in the sport of boxing. and until he is punish he can never get credit from me... Fans like me? Get off you high horse dude, the only reason you all of a sudden come out and accuse shane of all this steroid stuff is cause all of a sudden he is a threat to floyd. I didnt see you come at him when he fough margarito or cotto. I dont see you saying Roy Jones Jr. should be banned from boxing for also being caught using steroids. check my post history...! Why don't you hold your boyfriend accountable for cheating the system? He pulled a Gatti-Gamache like move with a guy who fought 50 of his 55 fights at 126. At least Mosley did what he did with a guy in his own weight class. Yeah, go ahead and say that Mosley lost the second fight with De La Hoya. But at least he did some damage with the punches he landed unlike Floyd did with his powder puff punching pussy ass. Another form of cheating is constantly picking on tailor made opponents and not giving the boxing fans the fights they want. After Mosley whips Floyd's WBC cousin in Berto, it's too bad that he'll have to give up that same belt for not fighting a guy he already beat in Collazo. You can bring Paul Williams (Who I'm a fan of) in the equation. Floyd's name was mentioned in the post fight interview of Paul's victory over Margarito. And Floyd said he didn't even know who Williams was on Leon's web site. At least Mosley is an honest guy and admits that it's a hard fight. I notice of how right when Paul Williams moved up in weight, Floyd came out of retirement. Lol.

He wasnt punished because he wasnt found out till when his case was too late, He would have probably been ban if they had find out but they did...All amy saying is what happen was years ago we all need to move on or we can hold on to it and let it hold boxing back... Sorry stewie, but you are willing to do something that I am not. that is forgive a cheater who has never been punish.

Right, I get it, he wasnt punished for it. And i agree thats messed up. But what are we supposed to do tell him although he has fought his way back to the top and is the WW champ he cant get any big fights cause six years ago you used steroids and didnt get punished yet. He should have gotten punished but he didnt, boxing really dropped the ball on that one and i admit it. But punishing him now what would that do? At the most the punishment would be fine probably a smaller fine then what floyd paid for weighing over the catchweight against JMM. If boxing fined shane now and he paid it would you feel better about the fight happening? I just find the whole argument irrelevant at this point in time, because shane hasnt tested positive since and its six years after the fact. And for the record i wasnt calling you an asshole because of your opinion on shane, i was calling you an asshole because you said fans like myself are ruining the sport. I just want him to get punish in some way... to send a signal that taking steroids is not tolerated in the great sport of boxing.. because if it is....what makes this sport so different from the WWE...? and it would send a great signal right now if they did actually say you know what shane, you need to be punish for cheating no matter if you did 6 years ago. For the integrity of boxing you need to be punish. To send a specfic message. that even if you cheat and dont get caught, If we (boxing officals) FIND OUt 5,10,15,20, or however many years from now that you cheated you will be PUNISH !!! The NCAA has this stance, that there is no statue of limitations for cheating and I applaud it. They found out in 2007 that chris webber took illegal money from Mich alum.. and they wipes out all of Mich wins, final fours, everything something over 15 years old, they treated as a crime that was just commited today. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU, ON HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THEIR SPORT? "Barry Bonds rearranging the baseball record books landed him in the cross hairs of the federal government for years. Shouldn't there be some level of serious consequences for a boxer whose job is to try to rearrange his opponent's face?" My Point behind reminding People Mosley is a "JUICE USER" is to remind people he was never punish like Margarito was... My Point is Mosley cheating should not be overlook because he is a nice guy.. My Point is Mosley cheating should not be overlook because he didnt get caught My Point is Mosley cheating should not be overlook because he admitted to after the fact My Point is Mosley cheating should not be overlook when talking about who are truly greatest fighters of this era really are, and IMO if you have taken steroids, then your name is automatically off that list. The man was never punish for his action...never. and the fans havent treated him like a steroid user...they overlook it because Shane Mosely is a nice guy... and then they say shit, like he deserves an opportunity over fighters who never cheated to be envolved in big fights? WTF??? I guess when Margarito gets off suspension it should be no problem for him to get big fights ahead of fighters like clottey, berto, and Williams because Margarito deserves it .... My point is Cheaters shouldn't be rewarded unless they have done their time for the crime. I find it disgusting that people are treating Mosley like he is some kind of guy who DID IT THE RIGHT WAY HIS WHOLE CAREER...and deserves a big PAY DAY.. and other fighter should feel obligated to give him one... Shane "THE JUICE MAN" Mosley doesnt deserve shit IMO. AND ESPECIALLY he does not deserve a shot to be put on the big stage making Millions of dollars when we have fighters like Paul Williams, Nate Campbell, glen Johnson, and others Fighters who did it the right struggling to get a big fight... Dont they deserve that shot more than "THE JUICE MAN"

Here is the thing Danny, I am not an complete asshole. But you know like I know Mosley has not went through the court of Public Opinion like he should have or Margarito has...and you know it... My feet are set in stone on my belief that until Shane Mosley receive some kind of punishment for his cheating he should not IMO given any slack. and I bet Margarito will never get another big fight again, but Mosley on the other hand is quite possibly about to fight the p4p#1 fighter in the sport... What kind of message does that send to the fans and to other fighters about cheating... Is the message. You can cheat as long as you are a nice guy? You can cheat as long as you dont get caught on fight night? You can cheat as long as you admitt it after the fact? You can cheat and still be considered a great fighter, and can be considered greater then some fighters who didnt cheat...? This is bullshit and you know it... The man was never punish for his action...never. and the fans havent treated him like a steroid user...they overlook it because Shane Mosely is a nice guy... and then they say shit, like he deserves an oppurntunity over fighters who never cheated...??? WTF??? I guess when Margarito gets off suspension it should be no problem for him to get big fights ahead of fighters like clottey, berto, and Williams because Margarito deserve's it ....:thinking: People Call Mosley a warrior why? People Call Mosley a true fighter why? The man cheated for who knows how long ... Mosley should never again be put in the same sentence as the great fighters in boxing who didnt cheat to achieve what they achieve in the sport of boxing. and until he is punish he can never get credit from me... Fans like me? Get off you high horse dude, the only reason you all of a sudden come out and accuse shane of all this steroid stuff is cause all of a sudden he is a threat to floyd. I didnt see you come at him when he fough margarito or cotto. I dont see you saying Roy Jones Jr. should be banned from boxing for also being caught using steroids. check my post history...! Right, I get it, he wasnt punished for it. And i agree thats messed up. But what are we supposed to do tell him although he has fought his way back to the top and is the WW champ he cant get any big fights cause six years ago you used steroids and didnt get punished yet. He should have gotten punished but he didnt, boxing really dropped the ball on that one and i admit it. But punishing him now what would that do? At the most the punishment would be fine probably a smaller fine then what floyd paid for weighing over the catchweight against JMM. If boxing fined shane now and he paid it would you feel better about the fight happening? I just find the whole argument irrelevant at this point in time, because shane hasnt tested positive since and its six years after the fact. And for the record i wasnt calling you an asshole because of your opinion on shane, i was calling you an asshole because you said fans like myself are ruining the sport.

But he wasnt punished for his actions, you cant leave that part out. Margarito at least got some punishment, although not enough. He wasnt punished because he wasnt found out till when his case was too late, He would have probably been ban if they had find out but they did...All amy saying is what happen was years ago we all need to move on or we can hold on to it and let it hold boxing back...

Im not sympathizing or glorifying him at all. Boxing has moved on, shane has moved, hell even floyd has moved on but apparently you havent. Shane is the champ now, he is a good fighter, i want to see a good fight and that is exactly what shane vs. floyd is. Fans like me? Get off you high horse dude, the only reason you all of a sudden come out and accuse shane of all this steroid stuff is cause all of a sudden he is a threat to floyd. I didnt see you come at him when he fough margarito or cotto. I dont see you saying Roy Jones Jr. should be banned from boxing for also being caught using steroids. I dont mind if you think Shane is a cheater, but dont ****ing act like your some boxing super fan and im just ruining the sport. Asshole. Here is the thing Danny, I am not an complete asshole. But you know like I know Mosley has not went through the court of Public Opinion like he should have or Margarito has...and you know it... My feet are set in stone on my belief that until Shane Mosley receive some kind of punishment for his cheating he should not IMO given any slack. and I bet Margarito will never get another big fight again, but Mosley on the other hand is quite possibly about to fight the p4p#1 fighter in the sport... What kind of message does that send to the fans and to other fighters about cheating... Is the message. You can cheat as long as you are a nice guy? You can cheat as long as you dont get caught on fight night? You can cheat as long as you admitt it after the fact? You can cheat and still be considered a great fighter, and can be considered greater then some fighters who didnt cheat...? This is bullshit and you know it... The man was never punish for his action...never. and the fans havent treated him like a steroid user...they overlook it because Shane Mosely is a nice guy... and then they say shit, like he deserves an oppurntunity over fighters who never cheated...??? WTF??? I guess when Margarito gets off suspension it should be no problem for him to get big fights ahead of fighters like clottey, berto, and Williams because Margarito deserve's it ....:thinking: People Call Mosley a warrior why? People Call Mosley a true fighter why? The man cheated for who knows how long ... Mosley should never again be put in the same sentence as the great fighters in boxing who didnt cheat to achieve what they achieve in the sport of boxing. and until he is punish he can never get credit from me... Fans like me? Get off you high horse dude, the only reason you all of a sudden come out and accuse shane of all this steroid stuff is cause all of a sudden he is a threat to floyd. I didnt see you come at him when he fough margarito or cotto. I dont see you saying Roy Jones Jr. should be banned from boxing for also being caught using steroids. check my post history...! Roy Jones * <---Asterisk <--- Steroid User James Toney * <---Asterisk <--- Steroid User Shane Mosley * <---Asterisk <--- Steroid User Antonio Margarito * <---Asterisk <--- cheater Fernando Vargas * <---Asterisk <--- Steroid User Like the writer said: . "Barry Bonds rearranging the baseball record books landed him in the cross hairs of the federal government for years. Shouldn't there be some level of serious consequences for a boxer whose job is to try to rearrange his opponent's face?" This is why Boxing is considered to be corrupt and dirty... Because Fighters like these dont get Punish.

Well he's said no 3 other times, who's to say he wont back out now. Again Floyd doesnt need Shane so if he doesnt want to fight him he wont. Why do you think all of a sudden Shane is beating down Floyd's door and not in years past. Floyd is at the apex of his career. Yeah i know, and it does annoy me listen to shane whine about gettingt these fights with floyd or pacquiao. But that doesnt change the fact shane is one of about 3 fights that make sense for floyd right now. I guess its just if floyd fights winner of pac vs. cotto that fight wont be for a very long time. And in the mean time unless floyd is just gonna wait which i hope he doesnt i dont see any other fight that makes sense other then floyd vs. shane. And i definetly dont wanna see floyd fight another jmm.

Like I said before. I dont sympathize nor glorify Cheaters like people like you do. this is what I am taking about....when I say You guys are the type of people who would argue that you would love to see Barry Bonds go against ken griffey jr. in a home run contest to see who the best is, ignoring the fact that one guy has cheated to get where he is today.... ignoring the fact the one guy has done it the right way his whole career and still doesnt get the respect he deserves... Forgive me if I am not in a compassionate mood for forgiving cheaters and not wanting to see a cheater get a big pay day. But understand this, I actually respect the sport of boxing. The last thing I want too see is my sport turn into a circus all in the name of fans like you who just want to see fighters fight reguardless if they cheat or not... I show no love for cheaters period. in addition i show no love for people who sympathize for cheaters . Im not sympathizing or glorifying him at all. Boxing has moved on, shane has moved, hell even floyd has moved on but apparently you havent. Shane is the champ now, he is a good fighter, i want to see a good fight and that is exactly what shane vs. floyd is. Fans like me? Get off you high horse dude, the only reason you all of a sudden come out and accuse shane of all this steroid stuff is cause all of a sudden he is a threat to floyd. I didnt see you come at him when he fough margarito or cotto. I dont see you saying Roy Jones Jr. should be banned from boxing for also being caught using steroids. I dont mind if you think Shane is a cheater, but dont ****ing act like your some boxing super fan and im just ruining the sport. Asshole.

Its about business, right now Shane isnt the biggest money fight out there. Shane is the 2nd biggest fight out there, the first biggest fighter is fighting in a month and likely wont fight again until 4-6 months after that. Floyd should take the shane fight in between, its not like hes losing money if he does. Shane said he would replace berto with floyd in his next fight in january.

Right now the steroid thing has no relevance idk why you guys keep bringing it up. Its just an excuse for floyd not to fight shane. And Floyd is the cash cow yes... so what are you saying floyd shouldnt fight shane cause he might lose and he wont make much money in the process? Like I said before. I dont sympathize nor glorify Cheaters like people like you do. this is what I am taking about....when I say You guys are the type of people who would argue that you would love to see Barry Bonds go against ken griffey jr. in a home run contest to see who the best is, ignoring the fact that one guy has cheated to get where he is today.... ignoring the fact the one guy has done it the right way his whole career and still doesnt get the respect he deserves... Forgive me if I am not in a compassionate mood for forgiving cheaters and not wanting to see a cheater get a big pay day. But understand this, I actually respect the sport of boxing. The last thing I want too see is my sport turn into a circus all in the name of fans like you who just want to see fighters fight reguardless if they cheat or not... I show no love for cheaters period. in addition i show no love for people who sympathize for cheaters .

What about when Floyd tried to make that fight 3 times in the past. Also Floyd is the cash cow, its Shane who needs Floyd not the other way around, why fight Shane, a known drug abuser for smaller money when there are bigger fights to be made? Just doesnt make sense. Right now the steroid thing has no relevance idk why you guys keep bringing it up. Its just an excuse for floyd not to fight shane. And Floyd is the cash cow yes... so what are you saying floyd shouldnt fight shane cause he might lose and he wont make much money in the process?

We dont fight for bragging rights, Floyd averages over 1 million homes and sometimes 2.4 million....Shane has what...Pomona? Shane has the welterweight championship belt.... I thought floyd was back fighting to prove he is the best. What about his supposed list?

No-one is perfect, Mosley did what he did against oscar not Mayweather and this happened like 7 years ago, People need to get over it and move on just like people would need to move on in 6 or 7 years time when they talk about Margarito. We boxing fans need to see Mayweather in there with the best available fighters and Mosley is one of them. You are way more forgiving then I am... fuck that, he wasnt even punish not one bit and now we suppose to treat him like some warrior on the same standard as fighters who has never took the coward way out and cheated... Shane Mosley should not be put in the same sentence with fighters who never took steroids and try to cheat their way to the top. in my opinion He cheated against fighters who did it the right way..who fought through injuries, through rest and hardwork. Not steriods.. Shane Mosley is no warrior. Shane Mosley is no true champion. Shane Mosley is cheater who people choose not to hold him accountable for his actions... If boxing doesnt punish him, we as the fans should. Just like we do to barry bonds. In my opinion what Shane Mosley accomplish was based on the fact he had a unfair and illegal advantage over the other fighter which allow him to win. Honestly, I just think Mosley is getting the benefit of the doubt and Margarito will never get. And I think that is not fair. And check my post history I am not a margarito fan. but fair is fair. and how the boxing world is treating Margarito is not fair compare to how they are treating Mosley.