No hate on cotto but, that fight against jennings was a total joke...you can,t think that jennings prepared cotto for clottey or can you???he should have fought someone with a better record or someone who would push him and make him fight to see if there was any ill effects from the margarito fight...we all know cotto is a confident fighter but he should have taken a couple of tune up fights before going after the big fish...i personally think clottey is going to break cotto will because he will see if theres any quit in cotto the first 3 or 4 rds. And then begin to walk cotto down and finish him in 8 rds....just remember clottey was beating the shit out of margarito before he hurt his hand and still was hitting marg with some clean shots while being hurt...and i know that margs chin was something sick back then and he was ripping clottey with some shots as well...i just think the better, stronger fighter will be clottey period...if anyone thinks cotto will beat clottey please explain why when he will be the smaller man fight night???
Froch-Taylor........*Margarito-Cotto........Barkley-Hearns.........Peter-Toney is just a few where skill didnt matter........size did!!!
no doubt size matters on this one, but as far as styles goes, only factor that could make a difference is Cotto's training and how's his chin after Margo fight, Clottey will be Clottey.
A lot of people said that Hatton would beat Pacquiao, and he would be too big and strong, but skill prevailed. It will again on Saturday night.
Froch-Taylor........*Margarito-Cotto........Barkley-Hearns.........Peter-Toney is just a few where skill didnt matter........size did!!!
Cotto is gonna lose by a brutal Stoppage, I'd say by round 9. He's not knocking Clottey out, he wont be trading like he did against Mosley because Clotteys Defense is too effectibe for that.If he trades, you cant come back from being plastered and trade period. Hes taken waaaaaaaaaaay more punishment in his career than has Clottey...Fought Corley, nearly knocked out, Fought Judah, Nearly knocked out, Fought Torres nearly knocked out, Fought MArgarito...10th ound he was T.K.O's either waay plaster or no plaster it was the worst beating he had taken. Clottey walked Margarito down and was beating the shit out of him face to face, COTTO RAN an still took an L. No brainer folks....Clottey is gonna put it on him....Knowing how Cottto is I wouldnt be surprised if he gets disqualified for low blows to save his ass. Cause he'll low blow, rabbit punch,take a knee or give up before he getz completely K.O'd, Clottey is gonna finish him. Sorry but its only Logical..I think it's Clotteys time
With that being said, I think the only guy who can beat CLottey is Mayweather. Judah was winning on points but couldn't take anymore of the hitters hits....Mayweather is in better shape then Judah and slightly better. That my Opinion.
To won up the thread starter I got Cotto losing by disqualification or T.k.o IN THE 9th round
MARSMAN BABY!:boxing:
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I feel you Mars :fing02:......I think Cotto has been in too many wars and with Josh becomin' a major player........the timing is perfect!.......I've said it over and over.......Clottey has Cotto at the right time!!!!!
It's funny how people here overate Clottey, he couldn't even take out a shot overweight Corrales. Now all of the sudden Clottey is a huge power puncher who breaks people down when he hasn't had a KO in years. A lot of the people here talking shit have probably never seen Clottey fight. I have seen plenty of Clottey fights and if he couldn't take out Sharmone Alvarez, Judah it was a TD or Corrales what makes you think he's going to take out Cotto. Clottey is going to get beat and he's going to get beat bad if any of you fools want to put points on it I'm all in.
I also think some people are overrating Clottey but because he didnt KO alvarez,Judah or Corrales doesnt mean he cannot KO Cotto, Boxing works in a funny way and when a fighter is hungry/motivated then anything can happen.
Cotto alway brings the best out of fighters for some reason because they know if they beat cotto then their careers would never be the same, Saying that i still expect Cotto to handle is business and win this fight.
You're right. On the Clottey workrate, that is Clotteys weakness...his workrate is very poor, and I've seen him look lackluster before but against poor opposition. Alot of times with Boxers major fights is where elite fighters like Cotto and Clottey turn it up a few more notches.
If Cotto falls for the same thing against whom I consider a poor technical boxer in Shane Mosley, especially to a right cross, street fighters through that...what is he going to do against a man who mixes the punches up, to the body and face, who doesn't block with his head...like margarito. Who covers up, who is physically as strong and big as he is (judah wasn't). See Cotto has struggled and been fooled by lesser boxers(torres and mosley) and smaller weaker men( Judah and CorleY) Cotto can be timed. Cotto does not like to stalked, he likes to do the stalking. Clottey when stalked, meets his stalker and fights, no running.Clottey also times his punches vey well.All things Cotto has major problems with. Physical condition, goes to clottey, boxing skill, another for clottey, workrate....cotto....that can be easily neutralised. Who has the stronger chin is a no brainer, Clottey. Clottey wins in too many categories.
Also that right that Clottey shoots up the middle is very hard to see, he nailed Judah with it all night and truth be told, Judah isn't the easiest guy to hit, he's waay faster then Cotto, Cotto has been nailed by lesser boxers like Margo and Mosley, so when he fights a better boxer at the elite level, his weakness will be on the forefront. Its been a longtime coming for Cotto, this is it here. He's seen his best days, its Clotteys time.
Tito vs Winky all over again like Risario, and we know who Dominated.
Clottey wont just win, He wil Dominate.
Yep. Judah is a boxer. Quick hands, better movement and a powerful slick left hand. Cotto is not going to give you that. Comes in behind that snapping jab and get out. In late rounds, cotto gets careless when he has to go to war. Reason Cotto moved post to post against Rito, because he was never taugh I believe to use ring movement. Cotto shows no head movement. I think his earmuff defense take some away from him. Cotto over worked himself in the Rito fight. Cotto doesn't have a inside game either. If you are a small nobody guy, can't pose a problem (Gomez, Jennings) he will get you in the corner and beat the hell out of you. Guy's he can't do that, he gets in and out. Pauli, Corly, Judah, torres were small guy's that can hit. (Not Pauli) Cotto was bigger and can walk through them but ran into some punches at times. (Quintana) Please, who did he have on his resume people new about before he lost to Cotto? Never made any noise poise a threat at Welter. He beat Williams, was the best day of this career. Not counting Cotto out of this fight.
It's funny how people here overate Clottey, he couldn't even take out a shot overweight Corrales. Now all of the sudden Clottey is a huge power puncher who breaks people down when he hasn't had a KO in years. A lot of the people here talking shit have probably never seen Clottey fight. I have seen plenty of Clottey fights and if he couldn't take out Sharmone Alvarez, Judah it was a TD or Corrales what makes you think he's going to take out Cotto. Clottey is going to get beat and he's going to get beat bad if any of you fools want to put points on it I'm all in.
lol true that. I forgot about Corrales.
Is there not a saying on this board that Floyd destroys fighters?
How come Clottey was unable to take out chinny Corrales?
Good point.
Clottey ain't gonna do shiet but take a lickin and keep on tickin'
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You're right. On the Clottey workrate, that is Clotteys weakness...his workrate is very poor, and I've seen him look lackluster before but against poor opposition. Alot of times with Boxers major fights is where elite fighters like Cotto and Clottey turn it up a few more notches.
If Cotto falls for the same thing against whom I consider a poor technical boxer in Shane Mosley, especially to a right cross, street fighters through that...what is he going to do against a man who mixes the punches up, to the body and face, who doesn't block with his head...like margarito. Who covers up, who is physically as strong and big as he is (judah wasn't). See Cotto has struggled and been fooled by lesser boxers(torres and mosley) and smaller weaker men( Judah and CorleY) Cotto can be timed. Cotto does not like to stalked, he likes to do the stalking. Clottey when stalked, meets his stalker and fights, no running.Clottey also times his punches vey well.All things Cotto has major problems with. Physical condition, goes to clottey, boxing skill, another for clottey, workrate....cotto....that can be easily neutralised. Who has the stronger chin is a no brainer, Clottey. Clottey wins in too many categories.
Also that right that Clottey shoots up the middle is very hard to see, he nailed Judah with it all night and truth be told, Judah isn't the easiest guy to hit, he's waay faster then Cotto, Cotto has been nailed by lesser boxers like Margo and Mosley, so when he fights a better boxer at the elite level, his weakness will be on the forefront. Its been a longtime coming for Cotto, this is it here. He's seen his best days, its Clotteys time.
Tito vs Winky all over again like Risario, and we know who Dominated.
Clottey wont just win, He wil Dominate.
:haha::haha::haha:One of the shittiest dumbest post I've read in a while. I'm really going to laugh at this one after June 13th, what a dumbass.
It's funny how people here overate Clottey, he couldn't even take out a shot overweight Corrales. Now all of the sudden Clottey is a huge power puncher who breaks people down when he hasn't had a KO in years. A lot of the people here talking shit have probably never seen Clottey fight. I have seen plenty of Clottey fights and if he couldn't take out Sharmone Alvarez, Judah it was a TD or Corrales what makes you think he's going to take out Cotto. Clottey is going to get beat and he's going to get beat bad if any of you fools want to put points on it I'm all in.
Cotto was never very good to begin with.
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when will it ever end
Its very simple guys. If indeed Margarito cheated and plastered Cotto.
Cotto is a shot fighter hiding it. Clottey will expose it. If he wasn't plastered,his chances are higher then we think....But if he was, he wont be able to take anymore punishment.
Cotto looked like the end of a crime scene when he fought Margarito. I think he was ruined. Thats why I got Clottey by stoppage, I'm no fool, Clotteys K.O percentage is low, I just think hes catching Miguel at the right time and Cotto is just taking advantage at what might be his last year at main event status. Cotto is a shot fighter hiding it. Power is the last to go, but you cant hurt what you can't hit. He's already showed he cant take it as good as he can give it. Clottey will dominate. Cotto will be knocked out again. By better opposition this time.
Yes you are a fool. I will bump this thread when Cotto wins. And I will call you a fool. :nana:
Its very simple guys. If indeed Margarito cheated and plastered Cotto.
Cotto is a shot fighter hiding it. Clottey will expose it. If he wasn't plastered,his chances are higher then we think....But if he was, he wont be able to take anymore punishment.
Cotto looked like the end of a crime scene when he fought Margarito. I think he was ruined. Thats why I got Clottey by stoppage, I'm no fool, Clotteys K.O percentage is low, I just think hes catching Miguel at the right time and Cotto is just taking advantage at what might be his last year at main event status. Cotto is a shot fighter hiding it. Power is the last to go, but you cant hurt what you can't hit. He's already showed he cant take it as good as he can give it. Clottey will dominate. Cotto will be knocked out again. By better opposition this time.
Cotto was never very good to begin with.
No hate on cotto but, that fight against jennings was a total joke...you can,t think that jennings prepared cotto for clottey or can you???he should have fought someone with a better record or someone who would push him and make him fight to see if there was any ill effects from the margarito fight...we all know cotto is a confident fighter but he should have taken a couple of tune up fights before going after the big fish...i personally think clottey is going to break cotto will because he will see if theres any quit in cotto the first 3 or 4 rds. And then begin to walk cotto down and finish him in 8 rds....just remember clottey was beating the shit out of margarito before he hurt his hand and still was hitting marg with some clean shots while being hurt...and i know that margs chin was something sick back then and he was ripping clottey with some shots as well...i just think the better, stronger fighter will be clottey period...if anyone thinks cotto will beat clottey please explain why when he will be the smaller man fight night???
Cotto took a beating against Margarito, Clottey went into a shell and stopped punching, got tired and concentrated on not getting KOd, how's that for heart? You guys picking Clottey to just over power and break him down, seriously need to watch some Clottey fights, he fades and made Judah look very active! Now, Cotto is in for a tough fight, we still haven't seen Cotto vs some adversity after the Margarito fight but I see another Abdullaev fight, only that Abdullaev had better stamina.
Its very simple guys. If indeed Margarito cheated and plastered Cotto.
Cotto is a shot fighter hiding it. Clottey will expose it. If he wasn't plastered,his chances are higher then we think....But if he was, he wont be able to take anymore punishment.
Cotto looked like the end of a crime scene when he fought Margarito. I think he was ruined. Thats why I got Clottey by stoppage, I'm no fool, Clotteys K.O percentage is low, I just think hes catching Miguel at the right time and Cotto is just taking advantage at what might be his last year at main event status. Cotto is a shot fighter hiding it. Power is the last to go, but you cant hurt what you can't hit. He's already showed he cant take it as good as he can give it. Clottey will dominate. Cotto will be knocked out again. By better opposition this time.
Clottey is too defensive to have an effective aggressiveness vs cotto. I see this 116-112 and higher for Cotto, maybe even late TKO(referee stpg) ....
Clottey is good but i don't know why people always do this, this crazy over hyping fighters out of nowhere. I EVEN READ THAT THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN BEAT CLOTTEY IS MAYWEATHER....:trink26:. Another talking about the heart that clottey has when he kept on fighting Margo and giving him killer shots...the way I remember he wanted to quit, the corner didn't let him and simply stopped throwing shots, just a couple here and there
Styles make fights and clottey will be killed with the jab and body shots. It WILL be a great fight but Cotto will outbox him
You're right. One the Clottey workrate, that is Clotteys weakness...his workrate is very poor, and I've seen him look lackluster before but against poor opposition. Alot of time with Boxers major fights is where elite fighters like Cotto and Clottey turn it up another a few more notches.
If Cotto falls for the same thing against whom I consider a poor technical boxer in Shane Mosley, especially to a right cross, street fighters through that...what is he going to do against a man who mixes the punches up, to the body and face, who doesn't block with his head...like margarito. Who covers up, who is physically as strong and big as he is (judah wasn't). See Cotto has struggled and been fooled by lesser boxers(torres and mosley) and smaller weaker men( Judah and CorleY) Cotto can be timed. Cotto does not like to stalked, he likes to do the stalking. Clottey when stalked, meets his stalker and fights, no running. Physical condition, goes to clottey, boxing skill, another for clottey, workrate....cotto....that can be easily neatralised. Who has the stronger chin is a no brainer, Clottey. Clottey wins in too many categories.
Also that right that Clottey shoots up the middle is very hard to see, he nailed Judah with it all night and truth be told, Judah isn't the easiest guy to hit, he's waay faster then Cotto, Cotto has been nailed by lesser boxers like Margo and Mosley, so when he fights a better boxer at the elite level, his weakness will be on the forefront. Its been a longtime coming for Cotto, this is it here. He's seen his best days, its Clotteys time.
Tito vs Winky all over again like Risario, and we know who Dominated.
Clottey wont just win, He wil Dominate.
cotto will only lose to a guy who comes at him non-stop,clotteys work-rate will lose him the fight