Mayweather ko's marquez

The name of this thread should be "I smoke crack". :bryce: Nobody would be surprised if that happens. Anything new? Obviously you didn't read it through... Great article. I want no excuses when Floyd KO's JMM and exposes him badly. My man, I see you read through in it's entirety!

Mayweather ko's marquez Nobody would be surprised if that happens. Anything new?

He certainly should KO him and if he doesn't he certainly isn't as great as he makes himself out to be.

Lets be serious, this is gonna be a 12 rounder. Both guys are gonna wait on the other to lead and make a mistake. at max each guy lands 10 punches a round. Only way this ends in KO is if jmm gets too brave. I totally disagree with everyone saying this. Watch Floyd fight guys his own size and JMM is a little smaller. I bet anyone anything that Floyd will come forward the whole fight, walk him down, and knock him out. Theyre are only 2 ways to beat Floyd or for Floyd to even fear you and that is to be a Southpaw or to be so big that Floyd cant do anything but pot shot. JMM isnt that. He's not big and he's a righty. I honestly dont beleive that any righty in history can hit Floyd clean. Why would he fear going right at JMM? I will give JMM credit on one thing and say that if any righty in history could hit Floyd clean it would be JMM because he throws his punches so precised and down the pipe but I still dont see it. I think people so underrate Floyd's style on these boards now. He will be highly aggressive against both JMM and Pac. He will have to show Pac a little more respect because he's a Southpaw and Floyd wont want to get caught. I think he will walk Pac down like he did Zab but I think he will let his hands go more because Pac will be more agressive then Zab was. If everyone thinks that Floyd will play it safe against JMM and it will be a UD then IM going to get mad paid with the KO

The name of this thread should be "I smoke crack".

Lets be serious, this is gonna be a 12 rounder. Both guys are gonna wait on the other to lead and make a mistake. at max each guy lands 10 punches a round. Only way this ends in KO is if jmm gets too brave. Pretty much. I think Floyd just wants to get a safe win under his belt and the ability to say that he clearly beat a man who most thought had already beaten Pac twice. Then the Mayweather/Pac countdown begins.

Lets be serious, this is gonna be a 12 rounder. Both guys are gonna wait on the other to lead and make a mistake. at max each guy lands 10 punches a round. Only way this ends in KO is if jmm gets too brave.

What weight will they both be on fight night?? Exactly. Floyd and Marquez are almost exactly the same size. Floyd just didn't want to go through the stupid bull**** charade of boiling down weight just to go back up again. Fight at the weight you really are.

Thanks for the continuing saga of Floyd Mayweather threads. Not that you're to blame. Just goes to show how much fans missed him and want him back in the ring. But to bring up the same subject that most authors skip around -- The question to ask is: 1. Who called out who?? 2. What weight will they both be on fight night?? 3. Did Floyd insist on fighting at 147 - or - did he come down to meet JuanMa to give him some type of an advantage? 4. Which other tomato cans could Floyd have chosen as a tune-up if not the #2 P4P boxer in the world?? 1. Shane Mosley, Vernon Forrest, Cory Spinks, Winky Wright and Antonio Margarito have called out Floyd Mayweather before too. 2. That IS in fact mentioned in this article. 3. He insisted on fighting at 147 actually, that's why this fight took a month to make. Props for coming down a little though. 4. I think this is a good fight. Follow that link at the end, or read the rest that the other dude posted. If you'd read through the article in it's ENTIRETY, you'd see where I was going with it...

Here is part 2 of that article: AGE Though Juan Manuel Marquez is 35 years old, he’s been active throughout his career, hasn’t taken as much damage as most, and seems to have saved his best for last. He’s aged like a fine-wine, displaying brilliant skill and power in his most recent bouts and is RING Magazine’s 2nd best fighter in the world. Floyd Mayweather, while also still in his prime, isn’t as young anymore as he often behaves. “Money” May is now 32 years of age, and will be coming off of a nineteen month layoff when he enters the ring. Floyd’s shoulder-roll defense is a fighting style that many a trainer would tell you requires year-round maintenance and activity to upkeep, and is most effective when kept well-oiled as the skill-level involved in executing this particular technique effectively is nothing short of elite. Ever wonder why more fighters don’t employ it? It is conceivable that Floyd, regardless of what he claims to promote this fight, won’t be at his customary optimum level physically, at least not early on. POWER As you all know, Juan Manuel Marquez will be moving from the Lightweight limit of 135 lb. all the way up to 144 lb., just shy of the Welterweight limit. On paper, it’s a challenge that not many have been able to overcome, but Marquez, who is known to have a superior chin, will not find an imposing, physical type of fighter waiting for him on the other end. Floyd Mayweather is known as a tactician, a great technical fighter with vaunted counter-punching ability, but not much of a puncher. In stopping two-thirds of his opponents, you’d argue that Floyd does have decent pop, but not much more, and prefers to play it safe, keeping his work-rate very economical and throwing one punch at a time. Floyd’s biggest weapon may be his accuracy, but pot-shotting a sound defensive fighter in Marquez who is as known for his counter-punching as Floyd is may actually be detrimental. On the flip-side, Marquez himself seems to possess very underrated punching power. He’s stopped his last two opponents, Casamayor and Diaz, both in his first two fights in the Lightweight division. Being the first man to stop either one is saying something when those opponents had previously shared a ring with the likes of the late Diego Corrales, Acelino Freitas, Nate Campbell, Jose Luis Castillo and Michael Katsidis. SIZE The major stumbling-block in the way of this bout being recognized as a serious fight between two of the world’s top fighters, Manny Pacquiao’s dominant victory over Oscar De La Hoya be damned! Now I do recognize that this situation isn’t as comparable. Pacquiao appears to be a better candidate than does Marquez to compete at higher weights. And there’s little chance, if any, that Floyd Mayweather will be as dead at the weight as De La Hoya, so we’ll throw this one out the window. Make no mistake, Floyd is a bigger man that Juan Manuel. But there are a few things that have been overlooked. Marquez started his professional career in 1993 as a 19-year old Featherweight(he would move down to Super-Bantamweight soon after) whereas Floyd started his own career in 1996 as a 19 year-old Junior Lightweight. We’re talking a difference of 4 pounds, 126 lbs. for Marquez, 130 lbs. for Floyd Mayweather. While it is true that Marquez has spent the majority of his 16 year career between the Featherweight and Jr. Lightweight division, with one appearance at Lightweight back in 1996, the year of Mayweather’s introduction to the sport, the same can be said for Mayweather who fought his largest chunk of time between Lightweight and Jr. Lightweight. Over his 13 years in the sport, Floyd has been above 135 lbs. for nearly 6 of those years with the remainder of his time spent reigning over the other 130 and 135 lb. fighters around him. Marquez and Mayweather are separated only by an inch and height and 5 inches in reach, both in favor of Floyd. By these standards, this fight has just as much credibility, if not more, than Felix Trinidad or Oscar De La Hoya taking on Bernard Hopkins, or recently, David Haye moving up to Heavyweight to challenge the gargantuan Wladimir Klitschko. Mayweather and Marquez are far more comparable in size than any pair of those combatants. THE OUTCOME The size difference between the two isn’t as significant as the divisional difference is. Obviously, Marquez has a tall order in jumping two divisions for this fight, though the two will probably weigh around the same thing on fight night. There’s no way around it. However, I’ve always refused to believe in the weight as a be-all, end-all between two world-class, skilled boxers. What this fight will come down to is skills. Will Marquez, who will arguably be the best fighter Floyd’s ever been in the squared circle with, pedigree, competition and activity prove to much for the returning Mayweather? Or, will Floyd pick up where he left off in 2007, and come out at the top of his game? The answer to those questions will decide the outcome. I see Marquez attempting to lead in this fight, and if he catches Mayweather on a bad night, he’s got a real shot at out-working Floyd to a close-decision. On the other hand, Marquez was stung by both Pacquiao and Diaz, in his most recent fights, when reaching for his right cross and also, on occasion, when throwing his deadly uppercut from a little too far away, two things that can prove fatal to his chances against a bigger guy with better range who may just be the most pin-point accurate puncher in the sport. If I were a betting man, I’d take a Mayweather Decision as the safest bet, but the first 3 rounds of this fight will tell the story. How will Marquez look at the weight, and will he carry his power with him? How sharp and elusive will a 32 year-old Floyd be after the longest lay-off of his life, and does he have visions of Manny Pacquiao dancing around the back of his head? If that is indeed the case, it could be Marquez dancing around the ring as the back of Floyd’s head touches the canvas. Don’t put anything past either of these boxing savants. Whether this fight were made at 130, 135, 140 or 160, I have a feeling the outcome would be etched in stone. Both of these men are capable of anything in a boxing ring, two masters of the sweet science I’d be hard pressed to bet against no matter the odds or perceived disadvantage. Tune into HBO PPV on July 18th, as someone’s in for a rude awakening. We could be in for a real sleeper, and I mean everything but a boring fight The fight will definitely end in a KO. Hard to say who will pull it off. JMM is more dangerous than people are giving him credit for. This should be front and center on BS until the fight is over. Let's hope for the fans' sake, the fight is super exciting.

The fight will definitely end in a KO. Hard to say who will pull it off. JMM is more dangerous than people are giving him credit for.

Here is part 2 of that article: AGE Though Juan Manuel Marquez is 35 years old, he’s been active throughout his career, hasn’t taken as much damage as most, and seems to have saved his best for last. He’s aged like a fine-wine, displaying brilliant skill and power in his most recent bouts and is RING Magazine’s 2nd best fighter in the world. Floyd Mayweather, while also still in his prime, isn’t as young anymore as he often behaves. “Money” May is now 32 years of age, and will be coming off of a nineteen month layoff when he enters the ring. Floyd’s shoulder-roll defense is a fighting style that many a trainer would tell you requires year-round maintenance and activity to upkeep, and is most effective when kept well-oiled as the skill-level involved in executing this particular technique effectively is nothing short of elite. Ever wonder why more fighters don’t employ it? It is conceivable that Floyd, regardless of what he claims to promote this fight, won’t be at his customary optimum level physically, at least not early on. POWER As you all know, Juan Manuel Marquez will be moving from the Lightweight limit of 135 lb. all the way up to 144 lb., just shy of the Welterweight limit. On paper, it’s a challenge that not many have been able to overcome, but Marquez, who is known to have a superior chin, will not find an imposing, physical type of fighter waiting for him on the other end. Floyd Mayweather is known as a tactician, a great technical fighter with vaunted counter-punching ability, but not much of a puncher. In stopping two-thirds of his opponents, you’d argue that Floyd does have decent pop, but not much more, and prefers to play it safe, keeping his work-rate very economical and throwing one punch at a time. Floyd’s biggest weapon may be his accuracy, but pot-shotting a sound defensive fighter in Marquez who is as known for his counter-punching as Floyd is may actually be detrimental. On the flip-side, Marquez himself seems to possess very underrated punching power. He’s stopped his last two opponents, Casamayor and Diaz, both in his first two fights in the Lightweight division. Being the first man to stop either one is saying something when those opponents had previously shared a ring with the likes of the late Diego Corrales, Acelino Freitas, Nate Campbell, Jose Luis Castillo and Michael Katsidis. SIZE The major stumbling-block in the way of this bout being recognized as a serious fight between two of the world’s top fighters, Manny Pacquiao’s dominant victory over Oscar De La Hoya be damned! Now I do recognize that this situation isn’t as comparable. Pacquiao appears to be a better candidate than does Marquez to compete at higher weights. And there’s little chance, if any, that Floyd Mayweather will be as dead at the weight as De La Hoya, so we’ll throw this one out the window. Make no mistake, Floyd is a bigger man that Juan Manuel. But there are a few things that have been overlooked. Marquez started his professional career in 1993 as a 19-year old Featherweight(he would move down to Super-Bantamweight soon after) whereas Floyd started his own career in 1996 as a 19 year-old Junior Lightweight. We’re talking a difference of 4 pounds, 126 lbs. for Marquez, 130 lbs. for Floyd Mayweather. While it is true that Marquez has spent the majority of his 16 year career between the Featherweight and Jr. Lightweight division, with one appearance at Lightweight back in 1996, the year of Mayweather’s introduction to the sport, the same can be said for Mayweather who fought his largest chunk of time between Lightweight and Jr. Lightweight. Over his 13 years in the sport, Floyd has been above 135 lbs. for nearly 6 of those years with the remainder of his time spent reigning over the other 130 and 135 lb. fighters around him. Marquez and Mayweather are separated only by an inch and height and 5 inches in reach, both in favor of Floyd. By these standards, this fight has just as much credibility, if not more, than Felix Trinidad or Oscar De La Hoya taking on Bernard Hopkins, or recently, David Haye moving up to Heavyweight to challenge the gargantuan Wladimir Klitschko. Mayweather and Marquez are far more comparable in size than any pair of those combatants. THE OUTCOME The size difference between the two isn’t as significant as the divisional difference is. Obviously, Marquez has a tall order in jumping two divisions for this fight, though the two will probably weigh around the same thing on fight night. There’s no way around it. However, I’ve always refused to believe in the weight as a be-all, end-all between two world-class, skilled boxers. What this fight will come down to is skills. Will Marquez, who will arguably be the best fighter Floyd’s ever been in the squared circle with, pedigree, competition and activity prove to much for the returning Mayweather? Or, will Floyd pick up where he left off in 2007, and come out at the top of his game? The answer to those questions will decide the outcome. I see Marquez attempting to lead in this fight, and if he catches Mayweather on a bad night, he’s got a real shot at out-working Floyd to a close-decision. On the other hand, Marquez was stung by both Pacquiao and Diaz, in his most recent fights, when reaching for his right cross and also, on occasion, when throwing his deadly uppercut from a little too far away, two things that can prove fatal to his chances against a bigger guy with better range who may just be the most pin-point accurate puncher in the sport. If I were a betting man, I’d take a Mayweather Decision as the safest bet, but the first 3 rounds of this fight will tell the story. How will Marquez look at the weight, and will he carry his power with him? How sharp and elusive will a 32 year-old Floyd be after the longest lay-off of his life, and does he have visions of Manny Pacquiao dancing around the back of his head? If that is indeed the case, it could be Marquez dancing around the ring as the back of Floyd’s head touches the canvas. Don’t put anything past either of these boxing savants. Whether this fight were made at 130, 135, 140 or 160, I have a feeling the outcome would be etched in stone. Both of these men are capable of anything in a boxing ring, two masters of the sweet science I’d be hard pressed to bet against no matter the odds or perceived disadvantage. Tune into HBO PPV on July 18th, as someone’s in for a rude awakening. We could be in for a real sleeper, and I mean everything but a boring fight

WHY MAYWEATHER/MARQUEZ IS A LEGITIMATE FIGHT By Brandon Estrict, DHB The rest: http://doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Brandon052909.htm Thoughts? Thanks for the continuing saga of Floyd Mayweather threads. Not that you're to blame. Just goes to show how much fans missed him and want him back in the ring. But to bring up the same subject that most authors skip around -- The question to ask is: Who called out who?? What weight will they both be on fight night?? Did Floyd insist on fighting at 147 - or - did he come down to meet JuanMa to give him some type of an advantage? Which other tomato cans could Floyd have chosen as a tune-up if not the #2 P4P boxer in the world??