we all know there at the top now, but would they still be on top if it was the late 80's - early 90's era???
idk
they would be fighting guys like: tyson, holyfield, bowe, lennox, morrison, mercer, foreman, moorer.
im not saying he's god.
and if you look at other replys, some people agree with me.
im not saying tyson could outBOX vitali, im saying he could out fight him, who has vitali faced that hit as hard as tyson, or had the monster workrate?? ummm??
ok, my bad. thanks for clarifying. u know how many people do have the tyson is god outlook. right?
tyson might do as well against them as he has done against lennox lewis.
personally, i dont see lewis as more than an equal. u are asking for my opinion, so i am giving it based on my experience, knowledge, and observations.
btw, how big of a workrate did tyson have by the numbers? yeah, i remember catching just about all his big fights as they happened , but i dont remember his punch output.
also, remember, he is gonna fight different vs a guy like vitali or wladimir. i think lewis is the only guy that matches up to the k bros pedigree.
do u really think tyson was so good that he could box with vitali? a guy who couldnt be dropped by any fighter he has faced, who has never been outboxed, who his even bigger than lewis, hits as hard, who is more awkward than any heavyweight in who knows how long, how can bring in other fighting sports experience, etc?
i dont care if u think so. just asking if u do think that tyson was the god that media hyped hm to be.
i think the 80's tyson would tear wlad up, no question.
vitali is tougher, he knows how to fight tall but lets not act like he is a defensive wiz. tyson was definitely quick enough to get to him. vitali is big and strong but he is slow and sloppy and doesn't have the best defense. the only reason i'd give klitschko a shot is because of how big and strong he is. he is not a more impressive fighter than the prime 80's tyson.
REALITY CHECK
Eastern European heavyweights are superior and will continue dominating for a very, very long time. There is tons of talented Eastren Europeans coming up in the amatuers in many diffrent weight classes, boxing is very popular in Europe now.
25 years from now, you jeaous haters will still be making up fantasy fights
American HW from past VS current dominant Eastern European HW champ
dude! seriously! u are making klitschko fans look bad. relax on that shit!
so the k bros are the best of the last 10 years. cool. i like it cause im a fan. but dont diss entire nationalities cause if it!!!! u make yourself look bad and the rest of us too!
do u really think tyson was so good that he could box with vitali? a guy who couldnt be dropped by any fighter he has faced, who has never been outboxed, who his even bigger than lewis, hits as hard, who is more awkward than any heavyweight in who knows how long, how can bring in other fighting sports experience, etc?
i dont care if u think so. just asking if u do think that tyson was the god that media hyped hm to be.
im not saying he's god.
and if you look at other replys, some people agree with me.
im not saying tyson could outBOX vitali, im saying he could out fight him, who has vitali faced that hit as hard as tyson, or had the monster workrate?? ummm??
You Americans have gone soft and live in a fantasy world
You hate the fact that Eastern Europeans are dominating the heavyweight sivision and owning all your American heavyweights....so you make up fantasy fights...American fighter from the past vs either Klitschko.
This shit shouldn't be in NSB
Put this shit in the fantasy fight section or the boxing history section
You assholes always try to bash and discredit successful European fighters.
LOL are you serious!? pathetically crying about american's? Fine have fun going out of your way to make every american fighter look like SHIT so you feel better about "EASTERN EUROPEANS'. No one cares about your american prejudice its blatantly sickening to be honest.
Look man Americans don't give a flying f u ck about eastern Europeans, NOR do they care about any race at all, all people care about is entertaining fighters.Look at mayweather 75% of people hate him cause he boxes(LIKE KLITS) everyone thinks he sucks and is overrated -Pacquaio KO'd hatton in 2 hes way better, its style that makes fans not race. Or i could be like you -hes black so americans don't like him. Grow the **** up if no one likes your fighter he probably has a boring style, but it doesn't mean he sucks and no one here is saying he sucks.
Understand the worlds not goddamn racist the US president is ****ing black maybe someday youll realize people hate you for what you act like not cause your race. quit being jealous and hating on amercians because 90% of all good heavyweights ARE americans.
AND no ****ing way does a prime tyson come close to loosing to a klit thats a joke. Saying tyson is overrated is knowing nothing about the man.
Holyfield throws combos. Klitchko throws jabs. 1987 Tyson would be to quick for the Klits.
which klitschko??? wlad, right? u think he throws only jabs cause that is all he can throw? lol.
watch when he smothers opponents to take them out. watch closely and tell me how many jabs do u see.
really, dud, don't fall into the hype.
can i ask a personal question? are u over 24 years old? did u follow boxing back then?
thats not meant to be an attack. just to gain your mind set.
so are you going to come up with HOW the kilts could beat tyson, bowe, and holy.
or not???
i keep asking you, i honstly wanna know how they could beat those fighters.
do u really think tyson was so good that he could box with vitali? a guy who couldnt be dropped by any fighter he has faced, who has never been outboxed, who his even bigger than lewis, hits as hard, who is more awkward than any heavyweight in who knows how long, how can bring in other fighting sports experience, etc?
i dont care if u think so. just asking if u do think that tyson was the god that media hyped hm to be.
Both could beat Tyson if they boxed smart, Holyfield bullied Tyson into submission, Vitali could do the same
im not talking about nutcase 90's tyson.
im talkin about 1987 tyson.
Both could beat Tyson if they boxed smart, Holyfield bullied Tyson into submission, Vitali could do the same
Holyfield throws combos. Klitchko throws jabs. 1987 Tyson would be to quick for the Klits.
shouldn't this be in fantasy fights or history? anyways, i think both could thrive in the 90's.
i never seen holyfield as a dangerous fighter like either k brother, or saw tyson with the skills to sit back and box a guy if he needed to.
lewis for sure could have lost to either bro in this time - had the brothers matured by that timeline.
i know good fighters when i see them i'd like to think. which is why i have followed the k bros and pacman for over 8 years.
You didn't own shit you moron
It's my OPINION vs your OPINION
so are you going to come up with HOW the kilts could beat tyson, bowe, and holy.
or not???
i keep asking you, i honstly wanna know how they could beat those fighters.
why are you like this, i have nothing against european fighters.
i just want you to explain HOW they would beat tyson, holy, and bowe.
if you can just do that, we could have an actuall debate.
:lol1::rofl::lol1:
Good luck.
I'm off
You Americans have gone soft and live in a fantasy world
You hate the fact that Eastern Europeans are dominating the heavyweight sivision and owning all your American heavyweights....so you make up fantasy fights...American fighter from the past vs either Klitschko.
This shit shouldn't be in NSB
Put this shit in the fantasy fight section or the boxing history section
You prejudiced American assholes and other NON-european assholes always try to bash and discredit successful European fighters.
why are you like this, i have nothing against european fighters.
i just want you to explain HOW they would beat tyson, holy, and bowe.
if you can just do that, we could have an actuall debate.
this thread is a joke. klitschkos wouldve been killed with the likes of tyson, bowe, holyfield, Moorer, even a fat foreman. They shouldnt even be mentioned with them other than the fact they now fight in their weight class.
You Americans have gone soft and live in a fantasy world
You hate the fact that Eastern Europeans are dominating the heavyweight sivision and owning all your American heavyweights....so you make up fantasy fights...American fighter from the past vs either Klitschko.
This shit shouldn't be in NSB
Put this shit in the fantasy fight section or the boxing history section
You prejudiced American assholes and other NON-european assholes always try to bash and discredit successful European fighters.
Why don't you go post on Eastern European Russian boxing forums and GTFOH since us Americans are so soft...That's right.
You Americans have gone soft and live in a fantasy world
You hate the fact that Eastern Europeans are dominating the heavyweight sivision and owning all your American heavyweights....so you make up fantasy fights...American fighter from the past vs either Klitschko.
This shit shouldn't be in NSB
Put this shit in the fantasy fight section or the boxing history section
You prejudiced American assholes and other NON-european assholes always try to bash and discredit successful European fighters.
Here is where you are Right and here is where you are Misguided.
Right: American HWs do suck now.....this is true.
Misguided: ALL FIGHTERS are compared to fighters of different eras as a measuring stick of how good each era is and how good those fighters are. That's why you have Tyson vs. Ali for example on the cover of the new video game.
Where some others may be wrong: Underrating the Klitschko brothers.
And continuing on that note....Where others may be wrong: Overratinng them.
This happens with fighters.
I'm not sure Wlad could be on the top, but Vitali def. has everythign to copmete with any era boxers
Vitali is no joke...agree with that. If we could just mix the two brothers together we would have a truly awesome fighter.