Seriously now, I always support technical fighters, the sport needs more of them, not these rocky clones that smack each other in the head for a bag of chips.
But if floyd weighs in at 147 against Marquez, seriously now, some of his fans have got to re consider his position in boxing, not skills wise, but legacy wise.
Marquez barley got by Juan Diaz at 135, and now 2 full weight classes up against the best boxer in the sport?
F.uck outta here.
He can fight WW for ever if WWs fight at 147 , but dont they they fight at 160 + and thats the difference Floyd is not a true WW by todays standards , boxing was ment to be a fair fight between men of very close weight , it was not ment for 160 pound fighters saying they fight at WW.
So if floyd is not true welterweight, he can fight at 140 no?
If you not a true welterweight, isnt that what the Jr Welterweight Division is for?
in this case, 2 divisions is 10 lbs. saying 2 divisions makes it seen worse than it really is. Didnt kelly pavlik go up the same amount to fight hopkins? Was hopkns downed for that great win?
the difference is hopkins was the heavy underdog in the fight..unlike on this coming fight,floyd is heavily favored 2 win..
Floyd Mayweather doesn't have to justify anything to you. The boxing world needs him, he doesn't need the boxing world or it's critics. People want to see him regardless. They want to see him lose of course and he sells that product beautifully! It's genius of Floyd if you think about it.
actually the boxing world doesn't need floyd and was doing good without him, floyd needs the boxing world; that said, the boxing world wouldn't be the same without him.
Who's saying it isn't cherrypicked? Tune-up fights usually are cherrypicked by definition, idiot. Because it's PPV and has a 24/7 it doesn't serve the purpose of a tuneup fight now?
No, I won't credit it as adding that much to his legacy, all told. I can't speak for whoever "you guys" is, since, unlike you, I don't obsessively concern myself with a categorical mass whom I claim to be above yet somehow can't stop involving myself in pathetic pseudo-debate with.
Shut the fuck up and be real yourself. Your agenda has been laid transparently bare, a million times. Every comment you will ever make will be influenced by your deep, burning need to score points in a worthless "fans" vs. "haters/anti-fans" war.
Your self-regarding opinion means SHIT, jackoff. Your hysterical, whining ass doesn't tell me to do anything.
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Who are you kidding what matters is the weight they actual fight each other at on the night thats when it means something , how on earth can it be any different for fuk sake , crazy logic you have !
The rules state the time of the weigh-in and it's not when they enter the dressing-room.
Floyd Mayweather doesn't have to justify anything to you. The boxing world needs him, he doesn't need the boxing world or it's critics. People want to see him regardless. They want to see him lose of course and he sells that product beautifully! It's genius of Floyd if you think about it.
Sorry but the boxing world is higher on pacman than on floyd right now, & floyd can't stand it.
Floyd Mayweather doesn't have to justify anything to you. The boxing world needs him, he doesn't need the boxing world or it's critics. People want to see him regardless. They want to see him lose of course and he sells that product beautifully! It's genius of Floyd if you think about it.
what a bunch of whining losers:bottle:
floyd has fought at a weight disadvantage all his life:
baldo-15lb diff
oscar-15lb diff
corrales-10lb diff
castillo-10lb diff
gatti- 15-20lb diff
mitchell-7lb diff
ndou-10lb diff
and the list goeson and on..and you guys are whining about 4lbs:crying::bottle:
put a sock in it
Those differences are all unofficial and pointless because of it. Did they make discounts for the trousers, shoes and golden nuggets those guys carried?
What matters is the official weigh-in.
what a bunch of whining losers:bottle:
floyd has fought at a weight disadvantage all his life:
baldo-15lb diff
oscar-15lb diff
corrales-10lb diff
castillo-10lb diff
gatti- 15-20lb diff
mitchell-7lb diff
ndou-10lb diff
and the list goeson and on..and you guys are whining about 4lbs:crying::bottle:
put a sock in it
yeah but that doesn't mean he has to make jmm fight at a disadvantage.
Legacy wise nothing changes. Its not like i changed my position about sugar ray after fighting donnie lalande. Do i like that this happened? No. But what do you expect, everyone is already calling him a b!tch anyway for taking this fight, him moving the fight to 147 just gave people more of a reason to do what they were going to do anyway. No matter what, this fight was going to be marred in critcism on floyds part, him moving the fight to 147 doesnt make things any easier on him. I wont defend his desicion to do this, but im also not going to sit around and throw out this pretend outrage over it neither.
Leonard took a lot of heat for not only forcing Lalonde down in weight, but also for not fighting the best LHW.
Still Lalonde put up a good fight and as such the fight is worth something.
Barely got by? He knocked him out, you realize Diaz had never been knocked out? Probably never been down, you realize Casamayor had never been knocked out? Looks to me that JMM has been draining himself all these years and should have been moved up the way he's been knocking out bigger fighters. This is getting tired, did you complain when Floyd fought Oscar, a man much bigger, surely you didnt.
This one's for you and that noob talking outta his trousers.
Casamayor was winning the fight until he tried to walk marquez down, one of the stupidest tactics of the last few years.
And I think even in the round diaz got knocked out in, he was landing good shots on marquez, that was very close fight with marquez nearly going down, no one with a full set of frontal lobes can say he dominated in that fight.
Its real simple mate who cares what they can dehydrate too , if Floyd is 147ish on the night of the fight and JMM 135ish I will agree with you 110% , but if Floyd is 147ish and JMM is 144ish on the night I will say your a goose like these others in here that dont understand weight .
And ill say to you, how long can he continue fighting at Welter but not fight welterweights? when it seems he could be fighting a Lightweight at welterweight.
in this case, 2 divisions is 10 lbs. saying 2 divisions makes it seen worse than it really is. Didnt kelly pavlik go up the same amount to fight hopkins? Was hopkns downed for that great win?
are u suggesting something like israel vasquez (122) go fight say... humberto soto?(130)
or raul martinez (112) fight juan manuel lopez? (122)
its unfair right? sooooo unfair doncha think?
Seriously now, I always support technical fighters, the sport needs more of them, not these rocky clones that smack each other in the head for a bag of chips.
But if floyd weighs in at 147 against Marquez, seriously now, some of his fans have got to re consider his position in boxing, not skills wise, but legacy wise.
Marquez barley got by Juan Diaz at 135, and now 2 full weight classes up against the best boxer in the sport?
F.uck outta here.
in this case, 2 divisions is 10 lbs. saying 2 divisions makes it seen worse than it really is. Didnt kelly pavlik go up the same amount to fight hopkins? Was hopkns downed for that great win?
Seriously now, I always support technical fighters, the sport needs more of them, not these rocky clones that smack each other in the head for a bag of chips.
But if floyd weighs in at 147 against Marquez, seriously now, some of his fans have got to re consider his position in boxing, not skills wise, but legacy wise.
Marquez barley got by Juan Diaz at 135, and now 2 full weight classes up against the best boxer in the sport?
F.uck outta here.
u are a pretty fair PBF fan...
welcome to the club...
Floyds cherry picking may very well backfire on him July 18th!!!!!!!
Most of us only could only hope, but who here actually believes Marquez will not struggle at 147? His chances were bad before now their just a hell alot worse. Too much weight, he isn't used to this weight class and his first fight at 147 is against highly skilled Mayweather... Insane... If Marquez did pull off the upset which is nearly impossible, then he would be considered one of the best fighters ever personally in my opinion. Just because the style match up favors Floyd in the first place, and the weight is ridiculous. People don't realize not everyone is a Manny Pacquiao. Theirs a huge difference winning big fights at 130-135, then to make a giant leap to 147...
Its not at 147 its at catch weight of 143 .
Don't expect them to listen to you...they want to carry on bitching.
The ring magazine said at 147, yes I'm sure the ring magazine has no idea what their talking about...