If Floyd Destroys Marquez...............BY KO

I was simply showing you how one can be critical without hating and why people can be critical. got ya.....

lol Well I wasnt calling you a hater. The ones I'm calling a hater are the the ones that wont even admit to half of what you just said. The ones that get mad because PBF hasnt lost yet... The ones the use the term Mr boat buyer over and over as if we didnt know PBF likes to buy boats etc. You clearly are not a hater but a fan that wants to see him fight the best. Thats what I want to see. I dont see that as criticism but being a fan of boxing. but what "honest criticism" can you give Floyd in the ring? Most everyone hates on PBF because of what he says and does out of the ring..... I was simply showing you how one can be critical without hating and why people can be critical.

theres already an excuse if jmm gets ko. hes much smaller lol

Forget PWILL that wont happen. How about you look at Mayweather VS Cotto. I'd love that fight, ive been wanting it for a few years now.

So why does weight now matter in this instance? Be consistent. Pwill fought at 147 so can floyd. Would Pwill get credit for it? No, hes suppose to win. Would Floyd get credit for taking the risk? Yes. So now same logic, does floyd get credit for beating on Marquez? No Does Marquez get credit for taking the challenge? Yes. Think what you may, it's about seeing Floyd lose, only to fight the best, as so many greats have done. Rather simple. Forget PWILL that wont happen. How about you look at Mayweather VS Cotto.

I posed the question in plain english, what in the hell is there not to understand? How can you deem someone as a hater, when they are simply giving honest criticism? Would I be a hater when I'm critical of Floyd above 135, but readily admit his run at 130 and 135 has been among the best ever? Would I be a hater when I expect someone with his talents, some of the best talents I've ever seen by the way, to use those talents against the best possible opposition? lol Well I wasnt calling you a hater. The ones I'm calling a hater are the the ones that wont even admit to half of what you just said. The ones that get mad because PBF hasnt lost yet... The ones the use the term Mr boat buyer over and over as if we didnt know PBF likes to buy boats etc. You clearly are not a hater but a fan that wants to see him fight the best. Thats what I want to see. I dont see that as criticism but being a fan of boxing.

lol sure it does. He's not that much bigger. JMM was moving up anyways reguardless if he was fighting PBF or not. Floyd has moved up yes, but he started fighting at 130's from 96ish to 2003ish maybe 04. Either way PBF and JMM are not that different in size. Yes PBF will be bigger and have the advantage but so did HATTON VS PAC. Now PWILL VS Mayweather would be the SAME thing your bitching at right now. PWILL would be a monster and Mayweather would be the smaller man but you would be ok with that right? It all comes down to people just wanting PBF to lose. edit: ALSO notice my bets. It's for a COTTO VS MAYWEATHER. I'm not a PRO Mayweather Pac fight..... dont get it twisted... So why does weight now matter in this instance? Be consistent. Pwill fought at 147 so can floyd. Would Pwill get credit for it? No, hes suppose to win. Would Floyd get credit for taking the risk? Yes. So now same logic, does floyd get credit for beating on Marquez? No Does Marquez get credit for taking the challenge? Yes. Think what you may, it's about seeing Floyd lose, only to fight the best, as so many greats have done. Rather simple.

1.I didn't say I wasn't a fan of Floyd. 2.If you knew me you would know my username comes from Ray Leonard. 3.Your argument is incoherent. You want to rail against my examples without actually paying attention to what I said. Ever heard of the phrase "You heard me but you didn't LISTEN" try LISTENING. 4.I SAID Manny vs Oscar is an example of how everyone(I won't lie including me) thought Manny would get his ass kicked SIMPLY because he was so much smaller, but they should have taken into account the skill difference and energy difference. Floyd won't beat JMM because he is bigger than him, he isn't Ricky Hatton his style isn't to bully you, he will beat him with SKILL because he is better at every aspect(offense is much debatable) of the game than him PERIOD. 5.I am saying even if he beat Pac(who I gurantee you call an ATG) you wouldn't give him credit. Pac was too small right? He would beat Mosley, no credit (too old right?) beat Cotto, no credit(war with Marg took alot out of him). I want him to fight all three of those fighters, the difference between me and you is I want to see him fight them because I believe he can and SHOULD beat the best. You want to see them so he can lose, and even if he won you would just look for the next man. 6.LEARN BOXING then come at me correctly, amateur. Good post Skills.

I dont understand the question..... or the point your trying to make. I posed the question in plain english, what in the hell is there not to understand? How can you deem someone as a hater, when they are simply giving honest criticism? Would I be a hater when I'm critical of Floyd above 135, but readily admit his run at 130 and 135 has been among the best ever? Would I be a hater when I expect someone with his talents, some of the best talents I've ever seen by the way, to use those talents against the best possible opposition?

So again, how is honest criticism being equated to as hating? You still haven't managed to answer the question. This will be the third time I've asked now. I dont understand the question..... or the point your trying to make.

Well because I dont think there is anything to criticism him about.... As a fan of the sport we can ALWAYS want. As human nature has it we are never pleased. He could beat fighter A yet someone will say he should have fought fighter B and so on. It never ends. I would like to see him fight Cotto. Will it happen I hope so but if it doesnt it wont change anything. I will still say he beat everyone that ever stepped in the ring with him and call him a GREAT fighter. So again, how is honest criticism being equated to as hating? You still haven't managed to answer the question. This will be the third time I've asked now.

Doesn't matter. It's about what weight you fight at now. And if that were your logic you should be a detractor of any Floyd/Pac fight since Pac started fighting 20+ lbs lower than PBF, same way Floyd started 20+ lbs below Pwill. lol sure it does. He's not that much bigger. JMM was moving up anyways reguardless if he was fighting PBF or not. Floyd has moved up yes, but he started fighting at 130's from 96ish to 2003ish maybe 04. Either way PBF and JMM are not that different in size. Yes PBF will be bigger and have the advantage but so did HATTON VS PAC. Now PWILL VS Mayweather would be the SAME thing your bitching at right now. PWILL would be a monster and Mayweather would be the smaller man but you would be ok with that right? It all comes down to people just wanting PBF to lose. edit: ALSO notice my bets. It's for a COTTO VS MAYWEATHER. I'm not a PRO Mayweather Pac fight..... dont get it twisted...

No, many a boxing fan here give the guy his just due at 130 and 35. Above that, he has failed to take on the best while claiming to be the best. I don't see how that has anything to do with his personality, so again, how can honest criticism from boxing fans be defined as hating? Well because I dont think there is anything to criticism him about.... As a fan of the sport we can ALWAYS want. As human nature has it we are never pleased. He could beat fighter A yet someone will say he should have fought fighter B and so on. It never ends. I would like to see him fight Cotto. Will it happen I hope so but if it doesnt it wont change anything. I will still say he beat everyone that ever stepped in the ring with him and call him a GREAT fighter.

You're just a hater and need to accept that Floyd doesn't have to fight the best of any division. He would just beat them pretty easily anyways. :wtf1: :rofl::rofl::rofl:

For me, it's about not fighting the best. That's my only cristicism. Talk all you want, say whatever you want, just fight them all is al i can ask. You're just a hater and need to accept that Floyd doesn't have to fight the best of any division. He would just beat them pretty easily anyways. :wtf1:

What weight did PBF start boxing at? Doesn't matter. It's about what weight you fight at now. And if that were your logic you should be a detractor of any Floyd/Pac fight since Pac started fighting 20+ lbs lower than PBF, same way Floyd started 20+ lbs below Pwill.

but what "honest criticism" can you give Floyd in the ring? Most everyone hates on PBF because of what he says and does out of the ring..... No, many a boxing fan here give the guy his just due at 130 and 35. Above that, he has failed to take on the best while claiming to be the best. I don't see how that has anything to do with his personality, so again, how can honest criticism from boxing fans be defined as hating?

but what "honest criticism" can you give Floyd in the ring? Most everyone hates on PBF because of what he says and does out of the ring..... For me, it's about not fighting the best. That's my only cristicism. Talk all you want, say whatever you want, just fight them all is al i can ask.

Exactly it won't happen, but it's got nothing to with height cuz PWill could still make 147 if it were on the table. It's kind of how Floyd's getting shit with fighting the smaller Marquez now. What weight did PBF start boxing at?

Why is honest criticism considered hating? but what "honest criticism" can you give Floyd in the ring? Most everyone hates on PBF because of what he says and does out of the ring.....