Where does Haye rank p4p if he beats Wlad?

Thats not true heavyweight have been in the ring p4p list, i found this on another site so thanks to that poster. The ring p4p rankings came in after 1988 i think. 1980 KO Magazine (January) 1 - Roberto Duran 2 - Sugar Ray Leonard 3 - Wilfredo Gomez 4 - Danny Lopez 5 - Pipino Cuevas 6 - Alexis Arguello 7 - Larry Holmes 8 - Wilfred Benitez 9 - Vito Antuofermo/Matt Saad Muhammad (tie) 1981 KO Magazine (January) 1 - Thomas Hearns 2 - Sugar Ray Leonard 3 - Marvin Hagler 4 - Larry Holmes 5 - Alexis Arguello 6 - Wilfredo Gomez 7 - Eddie Mustafa Muhammad 8 - Matt Saad Muhammmad 9 - Wilfred Benitez 10 - Roberto Duran/Aaron Pryor (tie) 1982 KO Magazine 1. Sugar Ray Leonard 2. Alexis Arguello 3. Marvin Hagler 4. Salvador Sanchez 5. Wilfred Benitez 6. Larry Holmes 7. Jeff Chandler 8. Eusebio Pedroza 9. Aaron Pryor 10. Thomas Hearns/Dwight Braxton* (tie) *Dwight Muhammad Qawi 1983 KO Magazine 1. Marvin Hagler 2. Aaron Pryor 3. Larry Holmes 4. Michael Spinks 5. Jeff Chandler 6. Thomas Hearns 7. Alexis Arguello 8. Wilfredo Gomez 9. Hector Camacho 10. Eusebio Pedroza 1984 KO Magazine 1. Marvin Hagler 2. Aaron Pryor 3. Larry Holmes 4. Eusebio Pedroza 5. Hector Camacho 6. Ray Leonard 6. Jeff Chandler 8. Michael Spinks 9. Thomas Hearns 10. Donald Curry 1985 KO Magazine 1. Marvin Hagler 2. Hector Camacho 3. Michael Spinks 4. Donald Curry 5. Thomas Hearns 6. Barry McGuigan 7. Milton McCrory 8. Julio Cesar Chavez 8. Pinklon Thomas 10. Larry Holmes 1986 KO Magazine 1. Marvin Hagler 2. Mike Tyson 3. Donald Curry 4. Thomas Hearns 5. Edwin Rosario 6. Azumah Nelson 6. Michael Spinks 8. Evander Holyfield 9. Julio Cesar Chavez 10. Hector Camacho There it is!!

pretty much, sorry haye. Mate "peeleft:thats bollocks

Nowhere because there is no such thing as a HW p4p. pretty much, sorry haye.

If HWs could make the p4p list, if he beats wlad then id say 3-5 ,

Haye is a huge underdog for this fight, and has only had one fight at heavyweight. Currently Wlad is not ranked in the top 10 p4p by any major listing, but he has a solid record, and had beaten most of the guys available to him. Where would Haye slot in p4p wise if he were to beat Wlad? My current top 10 - Pacquaio Marquez Mayweather Hopkins Mosely Vasquez Cotto Williams Donaire Dawson Personally, I think Haye would slot in around 7-9. And if he beats Vitali, 5-6 depending on other results. What do you think? Around 5 for me Timba, mabey 6 or 7. HW shouldnt be discrimenated against in the p4p rankings, Haye has came up from CW where he ruled as well it should be noted And he has all the attributes u look for in a good fighter, speed, power, accuracy, timeing and style, guy is an under rated body puncher too It all hinges on beating Wlad tho

1988 KO Magazine 1. Mike Tyson 2. Julio Cesar Chavez 3. Evander Holyfield 4. Ray Leonard 5. Jeff Fenech 6. Michael Nunn 7. Azumah Nelson 8. Jung Koo Chang 9. Buddy McGirt 10. Sumbu Kalambay 1989 Ring 1. Mike Tyson 2. Julio Cesar Chavez 3. Pernell Whitaker 4. Michael Nunn 5. Antonio Esparragoza 6. Meldrick Taylor 7. Azumah Nelson 8. Raul Perez 9. Virgil Hill 10. Marlon Starling 1990 1. Julio Cesar Chavez 2. Pernell Whitaker 3. Michael Nunn 4. Antonio Esparragoza 5. Meldrick Taylor 6. Evander Holyfield 7. Mike Tyson 8. Raul Perez 9. Myung-Woo Yuh 10. Khaosai Galaxy 1992 1. Julio Cesar Chavez 2. Pernell Whitaker 3. Terry Norris 4. Orlando Canizales 5. James (Buddy) McGirt 6. Riddick Bowe 7. Azumah Nelson 8. Sung-Kil Moon 9. Julian Jackson 10. James Toney 1993 1. Pernell Whitaker 2. Julio Cesar Chavez 3. James Toney 4. Michael Carbajal 5. Orlando Canizales 6. Evander Holyfield 7. Ricardo Lopez 8. Roy Jones Jr. 9. Kennedy McKinney 10. Yuri Arbachakov 1994 1. Pernell Whitaker 2. Roy Jones Jr. 3. Orlando Canizales 4. Ricardo Lopez 5. Humberto Gonzalez 6. Frankie Randall 7. Felix Trinidad 8. Gerald McClellan 9. Miguel Angel Gonzalez 10. Kevin Kelley 1995 1. Pernell Whitaker 2. Roy Jones Jr. 3. Ricardo Lopez 4. Oscar De La Hoya 5. Felix Trinidad 6. Yuri Arbachakov 7. Kostya Tszyu 8. Riddick Bowe 9. Marco Antonio Barrera 10. Terry Norris 1996 1. Roy Jones Jr. 2. Oscar De La Hoya 3. Pernell Whitaker 4. Felix Trinidad 5. Ricardo Lopez 6. Junior Jones 7. Kostya Tszyu 8. Terry Norris 9. Evander Holyfield 10. Mark Johnson

How does a HW make p4p? p4p is smaller dudes with the skill to beat bigger dudes. Not bigger dudes with the skill to beat smaller dudes. Thats what I call a misconception of the meaning "p4p". Pound 4 Pound Meaning for the people who dont like clicking links... Thats not true heavyweight have been in the ring p4p list, i found this on another site so thanks to that poster. The ring p4p rankings came in after 1988 i think. 1980 KO Magazine (January) 1 - Roberto Duran 2 - Sugar Ray Leonard 3 - Wilfredo Gomez 4 - Danny Lopez 5 - Pipino Cuevas 6 - Alexis Arguello 7 - Larry Holmes 8 - Wilfred Benitez 9 - Vito Antuofermo/Matt Saad Muhammad (tie) 1981 KO Magazine (January) 1 - Thomas Hearns 2 - Sugar Ray Leonard 3 - Marvin Hagler 4 - Larry Holmes 5 - Alexis Arguello 6 - Wilfredo Gomez 7 - Eddie Mustafa Muhammad 8 - Matt Saad Muhammmad 9 - Wilfred Benitez 10 - Roberto Duran/Aaron Pryor (tie) 1982 KO Magazine 1. Sugar Ray Leonard 2. Alexis Arguello 3. Marvin Hagler 4. Salvador Sanchez 5. Wilfred Benitez 6. Larry Holmes 7. Jeff Chandler 8. Eusebio Pedroza 9. Aaron Pryor 10. Thomas Hearns/Dwight Braxton* (tie) *Dwight Muhammad Qawi 1983 KO Magazine 1. Marvin Hagler 2. Aaron Pryor 3. Larry Holmes 4. Michael Spinks 5. Jeff Chandler 6. Thomas Hearns 7. Alexis Arguello 8. Wilfredo Gomez 9. Hector Camacho 10. Eusebio Pedroza 1984 KO Magazine 1. Marvin Hagler 2. Aaron Pryor 3. Larry Holmes 4. Eusebio Pedroza 5. Hector Camacho 6. Ray Leonard 6. Jeff Chandler 8. Michael Spinks 9. Thomas Hearns 10. Donald Curry 1985 KO Magazine 1. Marvin Hagler 2. Hector Camacho 3. Michael Spinks 4. Donald Curry 5. Thomas Hearns 6. Barry McGuigan 7. Milton McCrory 8. Julio Cesar Chavez 8. Pinklon Thomas 10. Larry Holmes 1986 KO Magazine 1. Marvin Hagler 2. Mike Tyson 3. Donald Curry 4. Thomas Hearns 5. Edwin Rosario 6. Azumah Nelson 6. Michael Spinks 8. Evander Holyfield 9. Julio Cesar Chavez 10. Hector Camacho

what?!? no its not! how do you enter a discussion about p4p and have an opinion when you dont even know the definition of the word. He does know it. He described p4p is smaller dudes with the skill to beat bigger dudes. Not bigger dudes with the skill to beat smaller dudes as being a misconception, before linking to Wiki on the correct explanation.

He wouldnt be on my list for beating Wlad, but if he were to beat Vitali as well in the "contract" match then I would have to put him in the top 10.

How does a HW make p4p? p4p is smaller dudes with the skill to beat bigger dudes. Not bigger dudes with the skill to beat smaller dudes. Thats what I call a misconception of the meaning "p4p". Pound 4 Pound Meaning for the people who dont like clicking links... what?!? no its not! how do you enter a discussion about p4p and have an opinion when you dont even know the definition of the word. Pound for Pound. A pound is a unit of weight. That means if you had one pound of Manny Pacquiao and one pound of vitali klitschko, their weight wouldnt be an issue (because you have a pound of both), so which is the better fighter. Pound for pound means the best fighter REGARDLESS of weight. otherwise the list would be completely skewed towards smaller weight divisions, which its not (evidenced by how highly joe calzaghe ranked until his retirement, for example). To answer the question in this thread, i already rate haye in my top 20 p4p, and wladimir about 11/12, with a decisive win, haye might bump up to around the 7 mark, it would be a huge victory for him

How does a HW make p4p? p4p is smaller dudes with the skill to beat bigger dudes. Not bigger dudes with the skill to beat smaller dudes. Thats what I call a misconception of the meaning "p4p". Pound 4 Pound Meaning for the people who dont like clicking links... Yup. p4p is about comparing fighters in different weight divisions, who wouldn't normally meet. As such, a good HW can be a p4p fighter just like anybody else. It happens rarely simply because the smaller guys have more opportunities to prove it as they can move between divisions to varying degrees and take on more p4p candidates. Likewise even an established heavy who started lower would have a better chance; Holyfield would be a good example. And indeed Haye, if he scalps a K or two.

How does a HW make p4p? p4p is smaller dudes with the skill to beat bigger dudes. Not bigger dudes with the skill to beat smaller dudes. Thats what I call a misconception of the meaning "p4p". Pound 4 Pound Meaning Mike Tyson...... and he wasn't even a former cruiserweight champion......

How does a HW make p4p? p4p is smaller dudes with the skill to beat bigger dudes. Not bigger dudes with the skill to beat smaller dudes. Thats what I call a misconception of the meaning "p4p". Pound 4 Pound Meaning for the people who dont like clicking links... It is often said to have been created to describe world Welterweight and Middleweight champion Sugar Ray Robinson. Robinson is one of the most accomplished fighters of all time, but his supporters realized that, while he could beat anyone in his own class, as a Middleweight he would not be able to beat a top Heavyweight. Hence, Robinson was called the pound-for-pound best without being expected to beat much larger fighters, under the belief that he as a Middleweight was still a better quality fighter than any fighter fighting at heavier or lighter weights than him.

Nowhere because there is no such thing as a HW p4p. Yes there is..... Mike Tyson was featured on the list.

Nowhere because there is no such thing as a HW p4p.

How does Dawson get on your P4P list? Haye, IMO would be placed at number 8 on my list......