Then there will be no fight. Manny is the draw and the ATM machine.
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This is how. Roach was smart taking the Oscar fight a middle weight trying to fight at 147 because he knew he would be weight drained now he wants to take a welter weight and have him fight at 142 (more or less the jww limit). Not only is Roach a great trainer but it appears a master tactician. The only safe bet is the bet that you are 100% certain of winning and by getting fighters to dropp out of their comfortable weight his is increasing the percentage
co-sing.... roach is just a phenomenal coach!! im not dissin him.. hes just doing his job
Manny doesn't really want this fight. Cotto does, so Cotto should just sweat a little more in the gym and lose the damn 5 pounds.
sure.... http://talkingboxing.com/photos/cotto_corley_weigh.jpg
a dead man walking ^^^^^
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his first fight @ 147 a healthly fighter
not dissin anyone.. but c otto if he accept that clause
i cosign.....its funny how all these dudes want floyd to move from 147 to 140 to fight JMM, but cotto shouldn't fight manny any lower than 145!:lol1:
manny and jmm are the same damn size, and you're right, the ATM machine calls the shots, and pac is the bigger star.
ppl.. are forgetting something..... cotto also have a card....
his contrac t is about to expire and hes gonna take full advantage of that...
its gonna be up to arum... if he whether tries to convince pac camp to let cotto fight @ 144 at least..... or face the fact. .that cotto is leaving top rank and signin with GBP...
sure.... arum preffers to have pac content instead of cotto.....
but that doesnt change the fact that cotto is still a primer fighter with a huge following that any promoter will love to have in his stable.... AND GBP more.. now that oscar have seen how manny pac has destroyed all his fighers including him.....
if cotto don't like it then don't fight pac. its just that simple.
exactly.....
Did you know that 35yr old is pound for pound number 2 and a 43yr old is number 3
So, he's still 2 weight classes lower than him. Shane is 35?, why not pick on him?
cotto earned 5+ million against margarito. don't make it seem as cotto is a small draw
Cotto is not a draw compared to pacquiao. His stock dropped severely after the margarito fight. That said cotto needs pacquiao more than pacquiao needs him. If he wants the money vs pacquiao then go down in weight. If not then fight mosely, simple as that.
general cotto fans thoughts :
" are you crazy cotto cant get down anymore , doesnt matter if he used to fight jww. cotto should not go below 145 , their just trying to make him come in weight drained so they can whoop on him like they did to oscar ! "
jumps to floyd vs jmm thread :
" gayweather is A LITTLE BITCH ASS PUSSY. instead of fighting cotto hes fighting a dwarf instead , go fight claderon next lmfao what a ducker , i cant believe he wont even drop to 140 when jmm shouldnt even be above 135 hes only fought above it twice. floyds a chicken "
side note : pacs only fought above 130 3 times. nsb hypocrisy at its finest , gotta love it.
It's fine for Manny not to fight Cotto or to say that he's too big, but he shouldn't make him cut down to a ridiculous weight and then claim that he's conquered the great Miguel Cotto. Either have the fight at a reasonable weight or don't have it at all.
if cotto don't like it then don't fight pac. its just that simple.
This fight should not be happening. This matchup is a result of Arum's greed. Floyd/Pac is the fight that needs to happen. Let Cotto get past Clottey, and if he wins, rematch Shane.
cosign..........
Listen. If they made Oscar come down from 154 to 147, then Cotto should just stfu and move down or move on. FFs Oscar came down in weight when he was the man, Cotto calls no shots whatsoever.
i cosign.....its funny how all these dudes want floyd to move from 147 to 140 to fight JMM, but cotto shouldn't fight manny any lower than 145!:lol1:
manny and jmm are the same damn size, and you're right, the ATM machine calls the shots, and pac is the bigger star.
Listen. If they made Oscar come down from 154 to 147, then Cotto should just stfu and move down or move on. FFs Oscar came down in weight when he was the man, Cotto calls no shots whatsoever.
very, very, very, very TRUE!!! That's why I got a funny feeling that Cotto beats Clottey and PAC will go up to 147lbs. I think PAC wants a WW belt.
He will accept that. Pacquiao calls the shot now. If they dont go down then f*ck it, its their loss. No fight can give cotto $5 million + dollars other than pacquiao. Pacquiao is the draw. All fighters who wants a piece of the lions share follow rules of engagement.
Listen. If they made Oscar come down from 154 to 147, then Cotto should just stfu and move down or move on. FFs Oscar came down in weight when he was the man, Cotto calls no shots whatsoever.
cotto is too big. he shouldn't even be picking on smaller guys.
It's fine for Manny not to fight Cotto or to say that he's too big, but he shouldn't make him cut down to a ridiculous weight and then claim that he's conquered the great Miguel Cotto. Either have the fight at a reasonable weight or don't have it at all.
i hope that the money doesnt blind his judgment.. .
cos if not... like i said.
pac will beat him.
This is how. Roach was smart taking the Oscar fight a middle weight trying to fight at 147 because he knew he would be weight drained now he wants to take a welter weight and have him fight at 142 (more or less the jww limit). Not only is Roach a great trainer but it appears a master tactician. The only safe bet is the bet that you are 100% certain of winning and by getting fighters to dropp out of their comfortable weight his is increasing the percentage
He's ALREADY sweating his ass off to get to 147, an extra 5 pounds of sweat is impossible when you're already cutting 15 pounds. To get to 142, he'd need to lose lean muscle at this point in his career. If Manny really wants his due as a top 10 ATG, he should fight Cotto at a weight where Cotto isn't a zombie.
cotto is too big. he shouldn't even be picking on smaller guys.
Manny doesn't really want this fight. Cotto does, so Cotto should just sweat a little more in the gym and lose the damn 5 pounds.
He's ALREADY sweating his ass off to get to 147, an extra 5 pounds of sweat is impossible when you're already cutting 15 pounds. To get to 142, he'd need to lose lean muscle at this point in his career. If Manny really wants his due as a top 10 ATG, he should fight Cotto at a weight where Cotto isn't a zombie.
I just wanna get this right, so now Cotto is like Diaz, DLH & Hatton at 140?
Nah... I'm only pointing out that Pac is a strong fighter even if he came from the lower weights and that the usual arguments for him losing those fights was that he was too small.
He destroyed the top guy at 140. I think that's proof enough that he'll be dangerous in that division even for WW's because they would have to drain down to it or to a low catch weight, and especially with a guy like Cotto who's had weight issues for leaving 140 to begin with. Cotto will be a sitting duck at 140.
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