And, we can also say that had Morales been wearing the Reyes gloves, he may have stopped Pac as well.
It goes both ways.
true.
that trilogy had a lot of drama and side stories concerning gloves.
1st fight - both winning gloves
2nd fight - manny with cleto-reyes , erik with winning
3rd fight - both cleto-reyes
whenever there's a fight there's always excuses from both sides. some bad some good. some understandable and some don't make any sense.
erik won the 1st fair and square. just leave it at that. it was a good fight. 2nd runner up for fight of the year i think. good exciting , close fight.
no shame on either for losing.
the 1st fight gives erik that 1 win that helps him separate himself against barrera a bit also the last win of his career and a big one. it also helped manny in terms of learning that he had to improve his style and how the right jab , left straight wasn't enough.
Pacquiao was outboxed and outskilled by Morales. Pacquiao looked more in shape in the 1st fight than Morales so I don't think Pacquiao was weight drained. He did start the fight strong but the cut did have a factor that made Pacquiao tentative.
With regards the gloves, it may have had a psychological difference because Pacquiao is more accustomed to the Reyes Gloves which are puncher's gloves compared to the Winning Gloves which is more hand protecting. Morales wore the Reyes Gloves in their 3rd fight not the second.
Morales did more than good after having another grueling battle with Barrera. He didn't take much time off and fought Pacquiao. Then he moved up in weight and didn't look very good in that weight class. He seem slow and wasn't in much condition. Then he moved down again took a short time off and fought Pacquiao. Morales had too many battles and didn't take the appropriate rest. I always thought he needed more time to heal and rest from all his big battles.
From what I understand Morales didn't let Pacquiao wear the Reyes gloves for the first fight. After he won he got cocky and let Pacquiao wear the Reyes gloves and we saw the result in the second and third fight.
And, we can also say that had Morales been wearing the Reyes gloves, he may have stopped Pac as well.
It goes both ways.
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So let me get this right,
you actually thought about slapping another guy,
with your dick?
When I think of slapping someone with my cock,
its always a female.
Let that marinate for a moment.
Can gloves make that big of a difference?
I think it would. Especially fora boxer like Manny who relies on his speed. funny, in the 2nd fight Morales was also wearing reyes gloves.
From what I understand Morales didn't let Pacquiao wear the Reyes gloves for the first fight. After he won he got cocky and let Pacquiao wear the Reyes gloves and we saw the result in the second and third fight.
Can gloves make that big of a difference?
isnt this when Manny wasnt allowed to wear the reyes gloves against Morales? something about promotors conning him or something. I remember it affected his speed. I know from then on it was Reyes gloves only for Manny.
From what I understand Morales didn't let Pacquiao wear the Reyes gloves for the first fight. After he won he got cocky and let Pacquiao wear the Reyes gloves and we saw the result in the second and third fight.
When all else fails,
resort to jokes about ones ethnicity.
You are mentally weak.
sure i am...... im sure that flu has u physically weak. so i could slap u with my dick, and all you would have the energy to do about it is give me red k on boxingscene....... :rofl:
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When all else fails,
resort to jokes about ones ethnicity.
You are mentally weak.
isnt this when Manny wasnt allowed to wear the reyes gloves against Morales? something about promotors conning him or something. I remember it affected his speed. I know from then on it was Reyes gloves only for Manny.
yeah.
bob arum (morales's promoter at the time) suckered muhammad (pacquiao's promoter) into fighting with winning gloves without pacquiao and roach knowing about it.
once the contract was signed , they had no choice but to use the winning gloves they were obligated to use.
isnt this when Manny wasnt allowed to wear the reyes gloves against Morales? something about promotors conning him or something. I remember it affected his speed. I know from then on it was Reyes gloves only for Manny.
similar to the case with this hatton fight. first time at 140. first time fighting someone as big as hatton. i think the big difference was the fact that 140 is more natural to him....
sorry but can't compare ricky to erik (even a past prime erik)
i like ricky but there's just no comparison. a lot different jumping to a new division to fight erik morales than it is to jump a new division to fight ricky hatton. (besides fighting at 147 beforehand basically as a 140 guy didn't hurt.)
you're right though , manny has grown into the 140 division.
manny is a freak of nature.
whatever division he's in he looks natural in it. even at 147 , he might not look natural in it but he kept his power and his speed. scary stuff.
the
2st, time? Really?
You're stupidity is shining as bright as ever.
2 is directly next to 1....... a honest mistake. not even the swine flu can stop you from posting..... ur a true mexican worrior!!!!
i don't think he was weight drained.
he had a lot of things go against him in that fight.
first time at 130 , first time fighting someone as big and good as morales , fighting with winning gloves instead of cleto reyes , the cut caused by the headbutt.
it was good for his career that he lost that fight. he started improving his arsenal after the loss and the trilogy got him paid.
the win over barrera made him a star but the morales fights made him a ppv attraction.
similar to the case with this hatton fight. first time at 140. first time fighting someone as big as hatton. i think the big difference was the fact that 140 is more natural to him....
when he fought morales the 2st time. im watching it now, and he looks slow and irresonsive...... thats the only reason he lost......
the
2st, time? Really?
You're stupidity is shining as bright as ever.