Lets put this in perspective.....Foreman made frazier his bitch

Frazier was alis toughest battle But guess what? Ali knocked foreman the **** out think about it...and apply it to floyd and manny This was the same example I used on Saturday with some friends of mine, casual boxing fans who only saw that Pac got rid of Oscar and Hatton quicker than Floyd. The difference is in styles. Not even those who say Pac is the best of this generation can be so insolent as to say that Manny is more skilled than Floyd, and skills are everything when it comes to head-to-head battles.

I can dig where your going with this one but smokin joe was'nt nobody's bitch