Jesus loves it when you punch people into unconsciousness for large amounts of money

No this is Pacman praying before the fight.... "Please God...Let Ricky be O.K. after I knock the shit out of him...Let me not hurt him too bad...." I may be an atheist, but I know that's bullshit.The health of a dangerous fighter is the last thing that would go through the opponent's mind ,before a fight. In this case,I didn't get the impression that Pacquaio was particularly concerned about Ricky's health,given the fact that he was basking in the crowd's adulation when he latter was lying near comatose on the canvas. Before the fight,Pacman,as a believer,was just seeking mental and spiritual strength through prayer. Nothing more. Nothing less.

its just a sport. There's nothing immoral about it. So what if it's a sport? Nothing immoral about punching someone in the face for cash/another mans enjoyment? Nothing immoral about training for no other reason than to step into a ring and hurt another person as much as you can for money and entertainment? So labelling something to do with brutalising your fellow humans in the name of entertainment and money as "sport", instantly removes all kind of immorality? Dont get me wrong, I ****ing LOVE boxing, but I'm not going to pretend it's something it is not.

Boxing and religion. How can it possibly work? I wonder if any boxer who preaches God is actually being serious? It always baffled me when boxers talk about religion in the ring/pray in the ring. "Please lord, give me the strength to knock this pretender the **** out, so that I may earn stupid amounts of money so that I can have the nicest wimminz and cars when I get to heaven. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen." I mean what else could they possibly be thinking or saying? They're about to step into a ring for the sole purpose of hitting someone till they cant hit back. Am I missing the part where this is somehow condoned in religion? To me, it's no different than religion based wars. Makes no sense to be honest. its just a sport. There's nothing immoral about it.

I think that if my wife or children were being attacked for instance and in that moment I prayed that God give me the strength to kill the mother****ers, I understand that completely. But then I admit I'm just a guy who enjoys boxing immensely and is very unqualified to have this discussion. You take good care.

I don't really understand the reasoning. Not that I've had to recently, but if I were going into battle, I would certainly pray that I would survive to be with my family again. My Secret Service buddy prays that he will not meet harm in the performance of his duties, where certainly he may have to inflict harm. Just before I run the Marathon every year, I pray that I will survive it and be courageous in my effort. If you don't think that boxing is an appropriate sport that's a whole separate issue, than whether one has faith and if it's appropriate for them to pray before entering the ring and to give thanks afterwards. Does taking part in an event uncharacteristic and unrepresentative of your faith and praying for protection during your partaking in this event not go hand in hand? For instance, if the bible commands you not to kill, why would you take up a career which involves possibility of taking lives by order of another man? Why would that same soldier pray to god before they go into battle with a chance that they have to kill and end up killing people, what was that prayer for? Why bother? If you're not going to obey gods commandment and effectively knowingly and willingly commit one of the worst sins , why pray to him? What do they expect of that prayer? So they prayed, sinned, and now what? Where do they go from there? Is it just go to confession and plea for forgiveness and that's it? That's what I dont understand.

first of all.. you dont hear pacquaio "preach the bible" whatever his personal relationship with Jesus is his own.. blame the media for making a big issue about it.. I never said he does either so I'm not sure where yo're going with that? Either way, he does however, tout himself as a devout Roman Catholic. Its the amount of "devout" ness that its possible to have while remaining the poster child of a sport that glorifies human brutality between two men for another mans enjoyment. The media doesn't really come into what is being discussed here. I don't think its a coincidence that all of the top fighters/athletes are religious. lol when you say all....

becuz a lot of people have been brainwash since they were born. so what do you expect? some change though.

I don't really understand the reasoning. Not that I've had to recently, but if I were going into battle, I would certainly pray that I would survive to be with my family again. My Secret Service buddy prays that he will not meet harm in the performance of his duties, where certainly he may have to inflict harm. Just before I run the Marathon every year, I pray that I will survive it and be courageous in my effort. If you don't think that boxing is an appropriate sport that's a whole separate issue, than whether one has faith and if it's appropriate for them to pray before entering the ring and to give thanks afterwards.

I don't think its a coincidence that all of the top fighters/athletes are religious.

Read wht i said in my last post pls And like i said, alot of it comes down to interpretation....Thats why people cant judge other people, and why people say "only god knows" I mean (i know this is a little far fetched but im tired n its only thing tht popped in my head as an example), there are people doing suicide bombing in the world who really think they are doing right....yet i am completely against it. But at the end of the day how do i know wrong from right, i know in my head i think it is wrong, yet in theirs it is right, so again it comes down to only god knows. Anyway nite people im shattered. You know what is right by following the words and example of the person you worship. You dont have to even ask yourself more than once whether Jesus would enjoy watching dudes hurt each other to make a living, especially in the circumstances that most people get into the sport. Also as was said before, in Islam you are supposed to not cause harm to your body? Is that not enough of an indication of what you should and should not do regarding fighting and or killing yourself along with other people? If you are unsure about something, but you have something which at least gives you an idea, why ignore it?

Boxing training in Islam is fine, but some people think if you fight with a person, hitting them in the face, it is something against the religion...but there are so many things, in Islam you are not meant to harm your body, yet alot of Muslims smoke and dont see it as haram (forbidden) and even the highest of the Muslims (that decide what is halal (permissible) and haram) say smoking is not haram but is frowned upon....So I think with certain things you have to go with how you feel. There are always going to be people that see it as wrong and people that see it the opposite...even people that see it more as frowned upon. At the end of the day, with religion there is always going to be some confusion, but it all comes down to personal opinion, i could read any holy book, lets say for example The Bible, and i could have a complete different view of things then your views if you read the Bible....It all comes down to interpretation. Pacman may not see it as doing wrong....At the end of the day only god knows... (i am religious so that last bit may not apply for you) And as for your part about it provoking gambling and violence... i dont think thats true...people bet on everything and anything now a days...just because hes boxing doesnt mean hes provoking gambling...hatton said bet your house on me...tht could be seen as provoking it, but i haven't seen manny said bet on me from what i have seen. People bet on lots of sports that are not seen as wrong sports in religious views, does that mean those people are provoking gambling? You're right about the betting, I have to agree, however, Boxing is still a glorification of brutality towards another human being for another humans enjoyment. There is no religion I know of that by reading their basic principles, would condone that. Because the two men agree to it and it labelled as a sport by man, doesn't change the fact of what it is at the very heart of it.

Someone said earlier that boxing is not allowed as a follower of Islam, yet there are fighters that are openly Muslim and still box. It doesn't matter if you give it a name like "sport" or "job", nor does it matter that the underlying goal is. If you are taking part in an event which is either forbidden, or not something that a follower of scripture would take part in if they were truly devoted, what is the damn point? Read wht i said in my last post pls And like i said, alot of it comes down to interpretation....Thats why people cant judge other people, and why people say "only god knows" I mean (i know this is a little far fetched but im tired n its only thing tht popped in my head as an example), there are people doing suicide bombing in the world who really think they are doing right....yet i am completely against it. But at the end of the day how do i know wrong from right, i know in my head i think it is wrong, yet in theirs it is right, so again it comes down to only god knows. Anyway nite people im shattered.

I swear people dont actually read posts. I swear people literally dont actually read the posts? Someone said earlier that boxing is not allowed as a follower of Islam, yet there are fighters that are openly Muslim and still box. It doesn't matter if you give it a name like "sport" or "job", nor does it matter that the underlying goal is. If you are taking part in an event which is either forbidden, or not something that a follower of scripture would take part in if they were truly devoted, what is the damn point?so wat religion are u?

some of the responses here are pretty rediculous. listen boxing is a very entertaining sport. but it is 2 humans FIGHTING each other, and HURTING each other. So, it is common sense that God does not like it. I mean come on humans were not put on earth to beat each other up!

Dog, it's just a damn sport with rules and not what. These fighters aren't trying to kill each other. That ain't the goal in boxing. If you don't like boxing then watch it. If you don't like religion then don't go to church. To each their own. I swear people dont actually read posts. I swear people literally dont actually read the posts? Someone said earlier that boxing is not allowed as a follower of Islam, yet there are fighters that are openly Muslim and still box. It doesn't matter if you give it a name like "sport" or "job", nor does it matter that the underlying goal is. If you are taking part in an event which is either forbidden, or not something that a follower of scripture would take part in if they were truly devoted, what is the damn point?

1. You are the idiot lol. I'm not downplaying religion you tool, I'm downplaying people who engage in ANTI RELIGIOUS activities while praising and asking of God. Anyone with at least a smidgeon of brain matter within their skulls would be able to tell that what I wrote was not supposed to be the words of Pac (I got a sarcasm detector on ebay if you need one), but rather a list of ANTI-CHRISTIAN things that he engages in and supports while he is boxing or is being part of boxing. As another poster has said, Islam rules out boxing as a sport, yet many people still do it and praise Allah for their achievements blah blah etc. I think Hopkins is one of those guys. 2. Doing anti-christian things in order to help people you favour is still doing anti-christian things to get money, therefore I dont see how God could be on his side. Punching someone for money is not something God would want, but because the other man agreed he would do it to you too and you decide to give it the name "sport", all of a sudden, two wrongs make a right and promoting gambling and violence is okay? Tell me how that works? Boxing training in Islam is fine, but some people think if you fight with a person, hitting them in the face, it is something against the religion...but there are so many things, in Islam you are not meant to harm your body, yet alot of Muslims smoke and dont see it as haram (forbidden) and even the highest of the Muslims (that decide what is halal (permissible) and haram) say smoking is not haram but is frowned upon....So I think with certain things you have to go with how you feel. There are always going to be people that see it as wrong and people that see it the opposite...even people that see it more as frowned upon. At the end of the day, with religion there is always going to be some confusion, but it all comes down to personal opinion, i could read any holy book, lets say for example The Bible, and i could have a complete different view of things then your views if you read the Bible....It all comes down to interpretation. Pacman may not see it as doing wrong....At the end of the day only god knows... (i am religious so that last bit may not apply for you) And as for your part about it provoking gambling and violence... i dont think thats true...people bet on everything and anything now a days...just because hes boxing doesnt mean hes provoking gambling...hatton said bet your house on me...tht could be seen as provoking it, but i haven't seen manny said bet on me from what i have seen. People bet on lots of sports that are not seen as wrong sports in religious views, does that mean those people are provoking gambling?

Boxing and religion. How can it possibly work? I wonder if any boxer who preaches God is actually being serious? It always baffled me when boxers talk about religion in the ring/pray in the ring. "Please lord, give me the strength to knock this pretender the **** out, so that I may earn stupid amounts of money so that I can have the nicest wimminz and cars when I get to heaven. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen." I mean what else could they possibly be thinking or saying? They're about to step into a ring for the sole purpose of hitting someone till they cant hit back. Am I missing the part where this is somehow condoned in religion? To me, it's no different than religion based wars. Makes no sense to be honest. Dog, it's just a damn sport with rules and not what. These fighters aren't trying to kill each other. That ain't the goal in boxing. If you don't like boxing then watch it. If you don't like religion then don't go to church. To each their own.

Its amazing how any1 can make something sound so stupid isnt it? I'm sure every word you said is what pacman was saying...nothing like "please god make sure noone gets seriously hurt in this fight" People like you just try their best to play down religion, stop being a fool and chatting out ur ass.... Those were your words not pacmans...if this was the case then i spose every religious person would have to stop playing sports...do you not think leg breaks happen in football or injuries in basketball etc...next you will probs say F1 drivers say "Please god make sure i dont crash even tho im driving at stupid speeds that could easily kill myself" .... You should try reading this to gain some knowledge of how ACTUAL religious people think. Also you talk as if pacman gets money and just keeps it to himself...as if he hasnt helped his country, or the people in the poorer parts of the world. Stop acting like a dick. 1. You are the idiot lol. I'm not downplaying religion you tool, I'm downplaying people who engage in ANTI RELIGIOUS activities while praising and asking of God. Anyone with at least a smidgeon of brain matter within their skulls would be able to tell that what I wrote was not supposed to be the words of Pac (I got a sarcasm detector on ebay if you need one), but rather a list of ANTI-CHRISTIAN things that he engages in and supports while he is boxing or is being part of boxing. As another poster has said, Islam rules out boxing as a sport, yet many people still do it and praise Allah for their achievements blah blah etc. I think Hopkins is one of those guys. 2. Doing anti-christian things in order to help people you favour is still doing anti-christian things to get money, therefore I dont see how God could be on his side. Punching someone for money is not something God would want, but because the other man agreed he would do it to you too and you decide to give it the name "sport", all of a sudden, two wrongs make a right and promoting gambling and violence is okay? Tell me how that works?

Then there's the encouraging people to gamble......encouraging people to embrace brutality towards one another in the name of getting paid.......ring girls wearing strings for clothes......Jesus must be so proud! If i can watch boxing and not gamble...why cant others? Its not down to pac or whoever is boxing to stop people from doing wrong...you would probs also say it encourages drinking aswel? as people like to get pissed for big fights and stuff...You could say anything influences anything at the end of the day its down to the person to stop themselves from doing it. At the end of the day its a sport, both fighters know what they are getting themselves into its not like hes just punched someone for no apparent reason, they are both earning a living, hes not asking god to help him KO his opponent, hes praying to god that everything is ok after the fight is over and no-one gets seriously hurt.

Regardless, it doesn't make sense? "God, I'm about to clobber this dude and possibly be clobbered by this dude in the name of money, fame, and my latest shot at trying to be the prez of the phillipines. Please Jesus, overlook the fact that the very event encourages gambling, people telling lies presented as pre fight hype and scantily clad women to be looked upon and coveted by millions of men and lesbians worldwide, please hear my plea and make sure none of us come out of it with any serious damage and are allowed to live well after being part of something that breaks so many of the commandments in one go. K thnx bai." I think someone needs to read the Bible again :D Its amazing how any1 can make something sound so stupid isnt it? I'm sure every word you said is what pacman was saying...nothing like "please god make sure noone gets seriously hurt in this fight" People like you just try their best to play down religion, stop being a fool and chatting out ur ass.... Those were your words not pacmans...if this was the case then i spose every religious person would have to stop playing sports...do you not think leg breaks happen in football or injuries in basketball etc...next you will probs say F1 drivers say "Please god make sure i dont crash even tho im driving at stupid speeds that could easily kill myself" .... Faith and Prayer in Boxing is GREAT!... They're praying for fairness, justice, health and safety..they pray for their opponents and themselves to walk out safely..it's a sport and a job like any other..and their beliefs don't affect their state of mind towards the sport or else they wouldn't do it.. Who is anybody to say praying for their well-being in ANYTHING is the "Dumb" thing to do?..Faith is a PERSONAL feeling which plays a HUGE role in some if not most athletes!. You should try reading this to gain some knowledge of how ACTUAL religious people think. Also you talk as if pacman gets money and just keeps it to himself...as if he hasnt helped his country, or the people in the poorer parts of the world. Stop acting like a dick.