Even after Pac beat DLH, I still felt Floyd would fairly dominate Pac because as most people thought - Pac hadn't truly been tested against a legit fighter above 130.
Stylewise, I really wasn't sure either. If a sharp counterpuncher and technician like JMM gave Pac that much trouble, what would PBF (who is superior in every skillset over JMM) do to Pac?
I guess I was still uncertain as to how Pac would hold up against a true 140+ pound fighter in terms of pure physicality. After seeing him beat Hatton I think I have changed my mind.
Most surprisingly, I thought that even if Pac were to win, he would still get pushed around physically by the bigger and stronger Hatton. The fact that he didn't was the one thing that caught my eye that fight, and the impeccable timing on those right hooks. Manny can counterpunch too now? I don't like PBF's chances anymore.
Who do you guys pick?
Theres too much speculation that could go on with this fight. The only thing you can really say is that Pac has never fought a technically brilliant fighter like PBF before, and PBF has never faced someone as physically gifted with speed and power like Manny before. We can talk about whether Floyd could counterpunch Manny, or that Mannys volume could eventually crack Floyd's defense. But who knows?
Neither has faced a beast like the other.
One of the best posts Ive read. Manny beat a guy it was pretty clear he was gonna beat, but in a more destructive way than most thought possible. And Mayweather is a great fighter who can be hit especially by southpaws(see Corley, Judah). It would be a great fight, no doubt. Im sick of hearing how Manny is nothing compared to Floyd when Floyd has faced noone near Mannys level and vice versa.
Theres too much speculation that could go on with this fight. The only thing you can really say is that Pac has never fought a technically brilliant fighter like PBF before, and PBF has never faced someone as physically gifted with speed and power like Manny before. We can talk about whether Floyd could counterpunch Manny, or that Mannys volume could eventually crack Floyd's defense. But who knows?
Neither has faced a beast like the other.
You can also say that PBF hasn't faced a fighter like Manny. I'm not saying Pac is gonna run over Floyd like he did Hatton either. It's gonna be a chess match and Pac has proven he can be very effective in a technical fight.
I think it all depends on wether mayweather can read him, I think manny will rack up the early rounds whilst mayweather tries to come to terms with the unorthodoxy of pac's style.
But let me say this, if mayweather can work him out with enough rounds to spare, pacman's gonna be in real trouble.
All that lunging in shit, leaving himself open after punches, I'd love to see how he can get away with that against a prime mayweather jr.
Listen, i agree with alot of this, i wanna see mayweather fight real welterweights if possible. However here's the deal, Mayweather skills wise is in another league to manny pacquiao, that's not to say Pacquiao cant beat mayweather, the most skilled fighter dont always win. What is does mean is pacman hasn't been in the ring with anything like a floyd mayweather jr. Mayweather isnt hatton, he isnt gonna rush pac hands down and he isnt going to be a corpse like oscar de la hoya, different ball game.
Personally, I think mayweather wants to fight pacquiao big time, huge money, in a fight which can enhance his legacy and a fight he will be the favorite in unless he loses or looks awful against marquez.
You can also say that PBF hasn't faced a fighter like Manny. I'm not saying Pac is gonna run over Floyd like he did Hatton either. It's gonna be a chess match and Pac has proven he can be very effective in a technical fight.
Dude this is going to be a great fight probably the best in the last ten years. I think right now Pacquiao is hungrier than PBF. Only a coward would retire to keep from fighting the likes of Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley. If he is truely the best like most Floyd fans say he is... Why hasn't he fought any of the above mentioned fighters. That is why most fight fans that are not Floyd nuthuggers think he is a coward. He claims to be the best but hasn't fought the best in his own weight division. You can't say the same about Manny, bro.
Listen, i agree with alot of this, i wanna see mayweather fight real welterweights if possible. However here's the deal, Mayweather skills wise is in another league to manny pacquiao, that's not to say Pacquiao cant beat mayweather, the most skilled fighter dont always win. What is does mean is pacman hasn't been in the ring with anything like a floyd mayweather jr. Mayweather isnt hatton, he isnt gonna rush pac hands down and he isnt going to be a corpse like oscar de la hoya, different ball game.
Personally, I think mayweather wants to fight pacquiao big time, huge money, in a fight which can enhance his legacy and a fight he will be the favorite in unless he loses or looks awful against marquez.
Floyds my no1 fighter, yet i give Manny all the respect he deserves.
Please dont catergorize all Floyd fans.
Manny dont something incredible last night by winning his 4th lineal title.
Exactly, but you know what Nsb is like, whoever wins is the best, a few weeks ago Shane Mosley could do no wrong after beating margarito and was the nelson mandela of boxingscene.
Pacquiao beats a fighter already KO'd by mayweather and your getting clowns saying he will knock mayweather out and mayweather is scared to fight him :lol1:
Mayweather is coming back more than likely to fight Pacquaio because he wants the p4p no 1 spot back.
The second thing is, manny is an outstanding fighter, no question, but he hasnt been in with anything like what mayweather will bring to him provided he is still prime and can get past marquez.
Dude this is going to be a great fight probably the best in the last ten years. I think right now Pacquiao is hungrier than PBF. Only a coward would retire to keep from fighting the likes of Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley. If he is truely the best like most Floyd fans say he is... Why hasn't he fought any of the above mentioned fighters. That is why most fight fans that are not Floyd nuthuggers think he is a coward. He claims to be the best but hasn't fought the best in his own weight division. You can't say the same about Manny, bro.
Floyds my no1 fighter, yet i give Manny all the respect he deserves.
Please dont catergorize all Floyd fans.
Manny dont something incredible last night by winning his 4th lineal title.
Well you are probably the only person I have seen with legitimate postings. Most are based solely on hate of another fighter. Manny is a stand up guy which is a shock in this generation of fight fans. A really nice person with great skill. Floyd has skill I'm not saying he doesn't but he will lose to Pac... or Cotto or Mosley. The time has come for Floyd to put up or shut up. In reality he will probably do neither.
Floyds my no1 fighter, yet i give Manny all the respect he deserves.
Please dont catergorize all Floyd fans.
Manny dont something incredible last night by winning his 4th lineal title.
Exactly, but you know what Nsb is like, whoever wins is the best, a few weeks ago Shane Mosley could do no wrong after beating margarito and was the nelson mandela of boxingscene.
Pacquiao beats a fighter already KO'd by mayweather and your getting clowns saying he will knock mayweather out and mayweather is scared to fight him :lol1:
Mayweather is coming back more than likely to fight Pacquaio because he wants the p4p no 1 spot back.
The second thing is, manny is an outstanding fighter, no question, but he hasnt been in with anything like what mayweather will bring to him provided he is still prime and can get past marquez.
I can't believe how much you Floyd nuthuggers will not give Manny any respect. Pac is on Mayweathers level and in my opinion he is > than PBF. The same guys that are on here bashing Hatton saying he is garbage, were the same ones saying Hatton was going to out muscle the smaller Pinoy and distroy him. Now that the opposite has happened you don't want to see the writing on the wall. Floyd Mayweather Jr. will lose to Manny Pacquiao.
Floyds my no1 fighter, yet i give Manny all the respect he deserves.
Please dont catergorize all Floyd fans.
Manny dont something incredible last night by winning his 4th lineal title.
I can't believe how much you Floyd nuthuggers will not give Manny any respect. Pac is on Mayweathers level and in my opinion he is > than PBF. The same guys that are on here bashing Hatton saying he is garbage, were the same ones saying Hatton was going to out muscle the smaller Pinoy and distroy him. Now that the opposite has happened you don't want to see the writing on the wall. Floyd Mayweather Jr. will lose to Manny Pacquiao.
It is much easier to block and counter 1 and 2 punch combos than it is to block 10 punch combos. You can't stop what you can't see!
Have a look back at the De La Hoya and N'Dou fights. Have a look at how many shots the threw at him on the ropes; and how many landed. And dont reply back by saying these guys were rubbish fighters, because this isnt the point. Guys have thrown 10 shots at Floyd and he still manages to defend against them.
Pac wont be able to throw 10's and 10's of shots for 12 rounds; especially if Floyd counters him constantly.
And i bet you all my points that Floyd and Manny meet. You gotta be blind not to see it. This whole comback was timed so they can meet in December.
After seeing what the Pacman did last night, Mayweather is definitely going to be KNOCKED OUT! Absolutely no question this will happen. JAT :wave:
bitch please. you'd better hope this fight isnt made. pacs reign will be done, and the monarchy of mayweather will take boxing over, again
Pac hasn't come close to a fighter who has a superb defense and laser like accuracy counterpunches that Mayweather will use against him.
He did, Marquez.. and remember what happened..
I give all credit to pac for his impressive win, but styles make fights and ricky hatton's style was like a pize of cake for pacman. We cant say that because he won to this who won to that and who won to that other, acquiao will win a fight against floyd. Actually floyds style is a marquez like which gave big problems to pac, just that floyd is stronger and faster. I say it could be a close fight in the first rounds, but than floyd takes the second half of the fight. By the way, I thought hatton was going to win, I think I was fooled by all the 24/7 shit and propaganda..
First mayweather has to beat jmm. That will be a closer fight than yesterdays
Ya`ll making to much of a big deal of that Pac win.Hatton was never the same after the Mayweather fight.Juan Lazcano almost ko`ed him and Juan is not a big puncher . Mallinaggi even rocked Hatton and paulie is one of the lightest hitting fighters out there.
Pac has been real lucky so far in his carreer fighting fading fighters but yet few could seem to see that cause they are blinded by his "spectacular" wins.
If it was the same circumstance for PBF people will always mention it.
Watch PBF run from this fight now, I won't say I told you so when it happens either!
Floyd wins hands down, much more interesting fight now knowing Pacman can seriously crack at that weight n seeing how poorly his opponents handle his speed but Pac's still the guy who struggled wit a boxer counterpuncher named MARQUEZ and Floyd has better defense, more power, longer reach, bigger size, faster hands, more intelligence, and an overall better boxer than Marquez is, pac's gotta slim chance but i cant see Floyd losing this one...After Floyd destroys Marquez this is the fight that has to happen, Arum needs to put an end to that Cotto bullshit this fight is the only fight that should be in their mind
I can seriously see Floyd countering Manny with uppercuts on the ropes.
Floyd beats him and anyone who thinks Manny ko's Floyd with one punch is seriously stupid.
But i can see Manny hurting him, Pacquaio has some serious power. His left hands and right uppercuts are crazy.
If Floyd fights his best game, Manny losses. His defense is to great to get hit like De La Hoya and Hatton did.
It is much easier to block and counter 1 and 2 punch combos than it is to block 10 punch combos. You can't stop what you can't see!
Even after Pac beat DLH, I still felt Floyd would fairly dominate Pac because as most people thought - Pac hadn't truly been tested against a legit fighter above 130.
Stylewise, I really wasn't sure either. If a sharp counterpuncher and technician like JMM gave Pac that much trouble, what would PBF (who is superior in every skillset over JMM) do to Pac?
I guess I was still uncertain as to how Pac would hold up against a true 140+ pound fighter in terms of pure physicality. After seeing him beat Hatton I think I have changed my mind.
Most surprisingly, I thought that even if Pac were to win, he would still get pushed around physically by the bigger and stronger Hatton. The fact that he didn't was the one thing that caught my eye that fight, and the impeccable timing on those right hooks. Manny can counterpunch too now? I don't like PBF's chances anymore.
Who do you guys pick?
Every one keeps comparing Pac to the boxer he was when he fought Marquez. Manny is a complete boxer now and is much more slicker now than he was then. He fights smart not like a brawler.
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