You guys are hilarious...

Just for samples who here would you put Pac ahead of? 20. George Foreman 21. Tony Canzoneri 22. Barney Ross 23. Jimmy McLarnin 24. Julio Cesar Chavez 25. Marcel Cerdan 26. Joe Frazier 27. Ezzard Charles 28. Jake LaMotta 29. Sandy Saddler 30. Terry McGovern Maybe Chavez with his padded record...some don't like ESPN's list but I don't see how Manny hits the top 30. Pacquiao deserves love but he's gettin too much rite now. Things should cool down in a day or two... Why is Jake Lamotta better? Because he went 1-5 against Ray Robinson? And when he won, he weighed in as a Middleweight, while Sugar was a Welterweight. Fraizer won the biggest fight of all time. I give him loads of credit for that, but again one big win in a glorified era shouldn't be enough to make him so much better than everyone else.

I strongly disagree. Pac gets too much credit for 2 high quality wins. He edged Marquez, beat a weight drained DLH, a decent fighter in Hatton. Roy knocked out and made a fool out of just about every1 he fought during his reign. Roy was so impressive because he fought so many B and C level fighters. That's like Pacquiao fighting David Diaz level fighters. Guess what earlier in this career Pac KTFO all his easier competition too. You just didn't see it because he was doing it overseas. BTW boxing resume aren't judged by how you come up the ladder. Its judged by what you do when you're up there. And Roy fell off the ladder while Pac kept climbing.

Why didn't Hatton fight Cotto, Mayweather, Gatti, Whitter, or Torres @140?

James Toney was a beast in his prime idk what ya'll talkin about. And I don't even have to speak for Bernard... Funny, because before the Pavlik fight, Hopkins wasn't considered SO GREAT. After a unspectacular win (impressive, but unspectacular) suddenly you got these nutlickers like yourself talking like he's ATG top 10. Fuking joke...

A rematch with B-Hop shudda happened but you can blame both guys for that. And he dominated Toney... What a shitty argument. Can't blame the fighters? Are youa fuking crackhead?

Wtf are people tripping one. James Toney is better than Barrera and JMM maybe not Morales Hopkins is greater than anyone on Pac Resume Hopkins is overrated, period.

Its funny how Hatton is all of a sudden a bum :nonono: Hatton was the best at 140 and ruled the division for years and years. Pacquiao ended his night in 2 rounds. That deserves credit. He was dubbed Overrated when Floyd beat him

Why does it matter? You seem to be ready to make judgments because of his ethnicity. What are you?

As it was already stated, Pac is p4p the best in the world , I'm not getting involved with all that all time b.s because thats all speculation. Hopefully we get to see May-Pac to finally end all the bullshit you see posted on boxingscene.com On another note Pac looked great last night & I admit I thought Hatton would win based on being too physical. I usually pick good , but I was completely wrong this time.

Its funny how Hatton is all of a sudden a bum :nonono: Hatton was the best at 140 and ruled the division for years and years. Pacquiao ended his night in 2 rounds. That deserves credit.

four lineal titles... not pussy titles. speaks for itself... and your making yourself look like an ass. You look like an ass bringin up race. We're talking about quality of opponents not titles. At the same weight, Roy goes thru Pacquiao's resume undefeated if u ask me...

Laugh all you want. There is a reason why when he stepped up both times he was brutally knocked out. His deficiencies were far too apparent. Most predicted he would get knocked out. Pacquiao did what he was supposed to do. I give him credit he's P4P number one hands down. But people are overreacting to this fight. hell yea!!!......plus ya sig is WICKED!!!! :fing02:

Ya'll are pathetic. You know Roy and B-Hop have better resumes so you bring up the race card. At least strugler posed an argument...

what the **** man... he destroyed a guy who was the best at 140. give the man his props... youre being a bitch I wouldn't be a bitch if ur buddies just admit Roy and Bernard have better resumes...

http://www.symbianize.com/showthread.php?t=26664 I think Manny is amazing dont get me wrong but top 25??? come on now

I guess it'll be like this until the fight happens......and somebody said Pac-Hatton was the biggest fight ever :lol1:......Manny and Floyd will smash all records........keep hypin' it up!!!.....its a great match up but last night hasn't change my opinion :nonono:......Floyd over Pac all day!!! :boxing:

Who cares about weightclasses? Roy beat the better opponents and in even better fashion...

Duran and Leonard are usually in the top 5-10 not 30. Would Arguello beat Mayweather? I dont think so. He'd probably be outclassed. Would Chavez Jr. break Manny down and TKO him? I really dont think so, Pac would probably win a UD. Those are two guys usually in the top 30-40, JCC is actually higher ranked than that. And that's just matchups, I haven't even discussed their resume yet. I'm not saying they are even top 30 now, but how is it not up for discussion? Just for samples who here would you put Pac ahead of? 20. George Foreman 21. Tony Canzoneri 22. Barney Ross 23. Jimmy McLarnin 24. Julio Cesar Chavez 25. Marcel Cerdan 26. Joe Frazier 27. Ezzard Charles 28. Jake LaMotta 29. Sandy Saddler 30. Terry McGovern Maybe Chavez with his padded record...some don't like ESPN's list but I don't see how Manny hits the top 30. Pacquiao deserves love but he's gettin too much rite now. Things should cool down in a day or two...

It's funny how quickly the best man at 140lbs becomes a bum. Your accusation is so predictable that it's laughable. Give the man some credit. Pac has done something no one has ever done. 4 linear titles in 4 different weight classes. Laugh all you want. There is a reason why when he stepped up both times he was brutally knocked out. His deficiencies were far too apparent. Most predicted he would get knocked out. Pacquiao did what he was supposed to do. I give him credit he's P4P number one hands down. But people are overreacting to this fight.

Ray Leonard would beat Mayweather IMO. Pacquiao aint even a natural 147 so don't bother. Hearns would kill Manny and maybe Floyd. Duran is Pac mixed with Cotto on steroids IMO. Wat u sayin? Duran and Leonard are usually in the top 5-10 not 30. Would Arguello beat Mayweather? I dont think so. He'd probably be outclassed. Would Chavez Jr. break Manny down and TKO him? I really dont think so, Pac would probably win a UD. Those are two guys usually in the top 30-40, JCC is actually higher ranked than that. And that's just matchups, I haven't even discussed their resume yet. I'm not saying they are even top 30 now, but how is it not up for discussion?