After watching countless hours of footage in the build up to this fight, 24/7, Sky's studio countdown, various interviews etc. I notice that Roach and Co seem to be expecting Hatton to "revert back to his old ways".
Watching 24/7, they seem to be training for the inevitable Hatton rough housing, bullying tactics.
Isn't it too much of a gamble to concentrate most of your training on an assumption that your opponent even denies? What if Hatton pressures forward but uses angles instead of wrapping his arms around Pac? Something old Floyd and Ricky both agree on, and have obviously trained for.
Malignaggi and a lot of people in these forums were taken by surprise the same way. A lot of people thought Malignaggi would simply tame Hatton as he charged forward, but it was in fact Malignaggi that was out boxed. I know Malignaggi is not Pacman, but I'm making the point that camps assume the wrong things and trrain for the wrong fight.
Should Roach really be concentrating so much on Hatton and his past wrestling style fights?
The root of this problem is there are two people who are on the same side who are actually arguing different points. And their opponents are just arguing against 1.
X is actually arguing that Hatton won the fight more convincingly than Cotto, but his wording almost makes it seem like he's arguing he has more power.
He beat Malignaggi like he was his daddy, way worse than Cotto, just Cottos punches had a bit more pop and his face looked like pizza man.
Iron lung is arguing that he has more power.
Sounds like a lot of excuses coming from you when the fact is Hatton stopped him, Cotto couldn't, nuff said. There was an obvious reason to stop it in the Hatton fight as he was taking far more punishment and the fight was far less competitive.
Truth is Cotto and Hatton's power is comparable, and neither can rightly claim to be stronger hitters than the other. Cotto TKO'd Maussa in 8, Hatton brutally KO'd him with 1 shot in the 9th. As you can see it can be very easily argued Hattno has more power but it's all moot, even with similar power it still spells doom for Pacman because Pacman would not be able to take Cotto's power any better than he would Hatton's.
ya'll forget
1. cotto was much bigger than malignaggi in that fight. he came in weight drained because he was already naturally much huger for that weight and after he rehydrated he was a huge beast in the ring compared to tiny Paulie.
2. In Hatton's fight, Hatton was the smaller man, had the reach AND height disadvantage and he still brutalized Paulie worse than Cotto.
What does that say for little Ricky?
You're wasting your time arguing with this retarded haters. It's best just to ignore and laugh at them.
If Hatton had Cottos power that fight would have been over in round 3 though.
Exactly, i get your point, these guys think power punching and busting a guys face up is the be all end all of fighting.
"Hatton stopped him, Cotto couldn't, nuff said. There was an obvious reason to stop it in the Hatton fight as he was taking far more punishment "
Plain and basic common sense.
If Hatton had Cottos power that fight would have been over in round 3 though.
"Hatton stopped him, Cotto couldn't, nuff said. There was an obvious reason to stop it in the Hatton fight as he was taking far more punishment "
Plain and basic common sense.
After watching countless hours of footage in the build up to this fight, 24/7, Sky's studio countdown, various interviews etc. I notice that Roach and Co seem to be expecting Hatton to "revert back to his old ways".
Watching 24/7, they seem to be training for the inevitable Hatton rough housing, bullying tactics.
Isn't it too much of a gamble to concentrate most of your training on an assumption that your opponent even denies? What if Hatton pressures forward but uses angles instead of wrapping his arms around Pac? Something old Floyd and Ricky both agree on, and have obviously trained for.
Malignaggi and a lot of people in these forums were taken by surprise the same way. A lot of people thought Malignaggi would simply tame Hatton as he charged forward, but it was in fact Malignaggi that was out boxed. I know Malignaggi is not Pacman, but I'm making the point that camps assume the wrong things and trrain for the wrong fight.
Should Roach really be concentrating so much on Hatton and his past wrestling style fights?
good points I dropped you rep for that..
After watching countless hours of footage in the build up to this fight, 24/7, Sky's studio countdown, various interviews etc. I notice that Roach and Co seem to be expecting Hatton to "revert back to his old ways".
Watching 24/7, they seem to be training for the inevitable Hatton rough housing, bullying tactics.
Isn't it too much of a gamble to concentrate most of your training on an assumption that your opponent even denies? What if Hatton pressures forward but uses angles instead of wrapping his arms around Pac? Something old Floyd and Ricky both agree on, and have obviously trained for.
Malignaggi and a lot of people in these forums were taken by surprise the same way. A lot of people thought Malignaggi would simply tame Hatton as he charged forward, but it was in fact Malignaggi that was out boxed. I know Malignaggi is not Pacman, but I'm making the point that camps assume the wrong things and trrain for the wrong fight.
Should Roach really be concentrating so much on Hatton and his past wrestling style fights?
great point..I think Hatton is gonna come out as the new Hatton and shock the world and Manny..
I do understand the point of Malignaggis face was brutally beat up and yes Cotto did way more damage than Hatton in that sense, i was more or less talking about the whole picture of just a total beatdown, winning every minute of every round type thing.
you retard, mcgirt threw in the towel and Paulie's trainer in the Cotto fight didn't. Why? Because some people had Paulie even or ahead on points adn the fight was a close 115-112, meaning Paulie still maybe had a chance. In Hatton's fight he was far more dominantly outclassed and thus his trainer realized it's pointless to continue taking such punishment.
Can you not see the difference? Are you mentally disabled, retarded, a downy?
Sounds like a lot of excuses coming from you when the fact is Hatton stopped him, Cotto couldn't, nuff said. There was an obvious reason to stop it in the Hatton fight as he was taking far more punishment
Did you not type that? Maybe I am retarded. I must have misunderstood what you wrote there. My bad.
When I read a flat statement like" Hatton beat Malignaggi worse than Cotto", I laugh, because it makes the author sound like a weird hybrid of NOOB and SPAZ.
Just because Paul was more competetive with Cotto than he was Hatton, doesn't mean Hatton "beat him way worse".
Common or garden youtube rat. Shut the hell up yourself.
Dont waste your time. These guys are hopeless. How can they not understand the fact that McGirt threw in the towel? It's hilarious.
Malignaggi was a diminished fighter against Hatton. Anybody who's seen his fights could tell before the Hatton fight that something wasn't working. He looked GREAT in winning the title, after that he got 2 lackluster decisions, he got rocked a few tiems by Herman Ngoudjo....who's a bum in my eyes. Malignaggi's speed and sharpness he had in the Cotto fight and the first N'Dou fight was simply vanished.
Manny Pacquiao and his team know what to do. Ricky doesn't really have a right hand, except for a stright right once in a while. Hatton will probably be lunging a lot and I saw what they are going to do in the last episode of 24/7... get outside the jab and counter.
After watching countless hours of footage in the build up to this fight, 24/7, Sky's studio countdown, various interviews etc. I notice that Roach and Co seem to be expecting Hatton to "revert back to his old ways".
Watching 24/7, they seem to be training for the inevitable Hatton rough housing, bullying tactics.
Isn't it too much of a gamble to concentrate most of your training on an assumption that your opponent even denies? What if Hatton pressures forward but uses angles instead of wrapping his arms around Pac? Something old Floyd and Ricky both agree on, and have obviously trained for.
Malignaggi and a lot of people in these forums were taken by surprise the same way. A lot of people thought Malignaggi would simply tame Hatton as he charged forward, but it was in fact Malignaggi that was out boxed. I know Malignaggi is not Pacman, but I'm making the point that camps assume the wrong things and trrain for the wrong fight.
Should Roach really be concentrating so much on Hatton and his past wrestling style fights?
roach said that they have planned for hatton boxing and feel that pac's speed will win out if hatton boxes (which is obvious)... that means hatton's only chance is to revert to his mauling / hugging ways and make the fight ugly.
hatton won't go for the KO this time if he's behind unless he knows he has pac in trouble.. he will try to go the distance and hope for a rematch.
Hey-hey, it's the Brothers Chuckle.
First, Cotto put Paulie in the hospital. McGirt simply pulled Paulie out on principle against Hatton because his fighter had no offense.
You're arguing that Hatton and Cotto have similar power, by telling us that Hatton outlanded Paulie better than Cotto and still couldn't really damage him? Bad way to argue it.
Cotto actually landed a lot more power shots on Paul than Hatton. Inflicted some evil damage. Put him in hospital.
Paulie did a lot of damage limitation in the fight with Hatton. It was all he could really do, since he couldn't put punches together. He got a bit scuffed up, but the way you guys are exaggerating the damage to make Hatton look like some force of nature is pathetic.
Hatton has very decent 140 power. Cotto hit somewhat harder there. Paul said so, and he would know. Don't know why you're aguing this. Makes you look stupid.
No, really. WTF are you talking about?
Epic fail!!!!!
Hey-hey, it's the Brothers Chuckle.
First, Cotto put Paulie in the hospital. McGirt simply pulled Paulie out on principle against Hatton because his fighter had no offense.
You're arguing that Hatton and Cotto have similar power, by telling us that Hatton outlanded Paulie better than Cotto and still couldn't really damage him? Bad way to argue it.
Cotto actually landed a lot more power shots on Paul than Hatton. Inflicted some evil damage. Put him in hospital.
Paulie did a lot of damage limitation in the fight with Hatton. It was all he could really do, since he couldn't put punches together. He got a bit scuffed up, but the way you guys are exaggerating the damage to make Hatton look like some force of nature is pathetic.
Hatton has very decent 140 power. Cotto hit somewhat harder there. Paul said so, and he would know. Don't know why you're aguing this. Makes you look stupid.
No, really. WTF are you talking about?
THERES MORE TO BOXING THAN POWER MAN :tool:
I agree, Hatton seemed to be very consistent in the Malinaggi fight. Not that Malinaggi is Manny, but it shows that he has the mental focus to stick to his game plan. Floyd Sr is very good at fixing his fighters, just compare the Dawson that fought Eric Harding, to the Dawson that fought Adamek. I think SR really talks to his fighters as well and spends time with them, he makes sure he gets his point across on what hes wants them to do and how he wants it done.
You hit the nail on the head my man.
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