Would Mayweather be a draw if he didnt hype himself up?

Nobody can deny Floyd is the best of the best at selling his fights with his mouth

Would Ali have been? :ugh: People will criticize Mayweather over anything - it's as much a part of the game as the actual fighting and has been for decades.

First, Mayweather vs. Anybody would sell. If this were true he would be making the fights the fans really want to see than, wouldn't he? Second. Mayweather can fight Cotto, Williams, and Mosely. but he can also fight JMM, Pacquiao, and Hatton He can fight who he wants. As Long as HBO approves the match up and the fight is credible. I love this particular load od crap. The same load of crap we've been hearing for 3 years now. Please! Why are you giving the welterweight division so much emphasis? Who cares about the welterweight division? name 5 fighters in the welterweight division that are relevant. Isn't this the division Mayweather campaigns in? The one he wants Marquez to come up to from lightweight? The division where Floyd has failed to make the toughest fights the last 3 years? As for the 5 relevant fighters.....Cotto, Mosely, Berto, Clottey and Williams if he can really still make that weight. Seems like all are willing to fight one another, yet Floyd does't want any of them. Tsk, tsk, tsk. The hot divisions right now in boxing is 140 and 168. 140 has Pacquaio, Hatton, JMM, Nate Campbell,Bradley,Khan, Urgano, Holt,judah 147 has Mosely, Cotto, and berto The only division that should matter to your boy, if he was really in this for legacy, is the one he's trying to get JMM to jump two classes to fight him in. You have said he can still fight the other welters even though its been 3 years and he has no interest in taking those kinds of chances. Why couldn't he fight these welterweights first and take on the Pac's and JMM's when they've grown more comfortably into these higher weights? Thats why you have Mosley and Cotto calling out Pacquiao and Hatton instead of other welterweights. because they know all the money and action is at 140. No, because they have fought all the best around them and want to get a mega pay day themselves. They have earned their rights to a huge payday with blood sweat and tears, not fas talk, bullshit and lies. The welterweight division ring championship is vacant. That means fighters in that division are not handling their business and that means fighters are not staying in that division long enough to establish a true welterweight champion. What a load of crap!! The Ring championship is vacant because it is almost impossible to unify two different organizations belts nowadays and Mayweather didn't want to defend the lineal title against anyone of note in his own division. Nice try with the little spin there. Right now the Welterweight division needs Mayweather more than Mayweather needs that division, which is obvious since you want him to fight there. TE] I could care less if he ever fights again or not. If he decides to I want him to fight at 147 because its the best thing for boxing. You seem like you couldn't give a shit as long as its good for Floyd. To me, that epitomizes a nuthugger.

Lets be honest. He draws people because he talks a great game. He hypes himself up to be something very good. He also talks about how much better he is than his opponents. If he did not have such a big mouth would he be in such high demand? People watch Mayweather to see him get knocked out because of his attitude. Yeah that's right. Because no one is a fan of skilled fighters. That's sooooo fu(king boring!

Than just answer this simple question that the others have run from than.....If Floyd IS such a draw, and he HAS said if he came back it would be for legacy, then why isn't he targeting the proven and more dangerous fighters in his own division. Obviously you can't use the money argument since you have so convincingly shown what a draw Floyd is and that he could undoubtedly carry a show. So why not Cotto, Willams or Mosely? And if this is just a tune up, why not face a fighter at welterweight who has proven himself at this weight? First, Mayweather vs. Anybody would sell. Second. Mayweather can fight Cotto, Williams, and Mosely. but he can also fight JMM, Pacquiao, and Hatton He can fight who he wants. As Long as HBO approves the match up and the fight is credible. Why are you giving the welterweight division so much emphasis? Who cares about the welterweight division? name 5 fighters in the welterweight division that are relevant. The hot divisions right now in boxing is 140 and 168. 140 has Pacquaio, Hatton, JMM, Nate Campbell,Bradley,Khan, Urango, Holt,judah 147 has Mosely, Cotto, and berto ( who is fighting a 140 pounder in urango instead of a weltereight) Thats why you have Mosley and Cotto calling out Pacquiao and Hatton instead of other welterweights. because they know all the money and action is at 140. The welterweight division ring championship is vacant. That means fighters in that division are not handling their business and that means fighters are not staying in that division long enough to establish a true welterweight champion. Right now the Welterweight division needs Mayweather more than Mayweather needs that division, which is obvious since you want him to fight there.

Are you saying mayweather is not a draw on his own? Who besides Oscar can you compare mayweather with? Mayweather is the biggest American draw since Oscar Retired. Let's Look at the World Biggest Draws: United States: Floyd Mayweather Mexico: JMM and Margarito Puerto Rico: Miguel Cotto United Kingdom:Ricky Hatton Cuba: Yuriorkis Gamboa Ukraine:Vitali and Wlad Klitschko Philippines: Manny Pacquaio Venezuela : Jorge Linares Dominican Republic: Juan Guzman Out of this list we dont have to ask who makes the most money and we dont have to ask who is the most accomplish To say Mayweather cant carry the show is crazy, especially when he is the sports biggest american star. Than just answer this simple question that the others have run from than.....If Floyd IS such a draw, and he HAS said if he came back it would be for legacy, then why isn't he targeting the proven and more dangerous fighters in his own division. Obviously you can't use the money argument since you have so convincingly shown what a draw Floyd is and that he could undoubtedly carry a show. So why not Cotto, Willams or Mosely? And if this is just a tune up, why not face a fighter at welterweight who has proven himself at this weight?

isn't being able to hype YOURSELF part of the game? if you don't believe in yourself, who else is gonna? the thing about mayweather is that he has the skills to back up what he says, and that's what matters to me. Co-sign. If you have the skills flaunt that shit. Why hide something you've worked hard for.

When he does those numbers against Cotto, Williams and Mosely I'll be impressed. Till then, he hasn't carried a show. Are you saying mayweather is not a draw on his own? Who besides Oscar can you compare mayweather with? Mayweather is the biggest American draw since Oscar Retired. Let's Look at the World Biggest Draws: United States: Floyd Mayweather Mexico: JMM and Margarito Puerto Rico: Miguel Cotto United Kingdom:Ricky Hatton Cuba: Yuriorkis Gamboa Ukraine:Vitali and Wlad Klitschko Philippines: Manny Pacquaio Venezuela : Jorge Linares Dominican Republic: Juan Guzman Out of this list we dont have to ask who makes the most money and we dont have to ask who is the most accomplish To say Mayweather cant carry the show is crazy, especially when he is the sports biggest american star.

Have a goodnight. because it is obvious that I am the one wasting my time talking to somebody with no commonsense. But that is not the case for fighters of different races who dont have built in fan bases. Que te dije guey?

No, I'm talking about those white guys Ali, Leonard and Tyson. Have a goodnight. because it is obvious that I am the one wasting my time talking to somebody with no commonsense.

you mean guys like Gerry Cooney? I think everybody would agree gerry cooney was partly successful because whites love his underdog blue collar story, and plus he was white. and Gerry cooney was 25-0 before he fought Larry homles and why are you writing in color fonts? No, I'm talking about those white guys Ali, Leonard and Tyson.

So, how did those white guys I named, do it? you mean guys like Gerry Cooney? I think everybody would agree gerry cooney was partly successful because whites love his underdog blue collar story, and plus he was white. and Gerry cooney was 25-0 before he fought Larry homles and why are you writing in color fonts?

With DLH retired, Barrera and Morales are not in their prime anymore, Margarito is banned Etc.....JMM is the new face of Mexico, so no. It's Marquez time to shine now, Mexico and Mexican Boxing fans will now have JMM's back. Believe that. Oh, lol, I get it! An almost 36 year old fighter who never fought above 130 except on two occasions is the new face of Mexico and this makes him the best fight for Floyd and will bring in the most money. Its nice to see that even though you are from NY, you have your finger on the pulse of Mexican boxing and how it translates into being the best fight for Floyd. Excellent!!:fingersx:

that was when boxing was a mainstream sport. and i am white so i dont fall into the nationalistic category. But Everything I wrote is logical and it generally true. it is not racial, it is commonsense. So, how did those white guys I named, do it?

Oh, so its because hes Black. I wonder how those white guys Ali, Leonard and Tyson did it? that was when boxing was a mainstream sport. and i am white so i dont fall into the nationalistic category. But Everything I wrote is logical and it generally true. it is not racial, it is commonsense.

Mayweather is the biggest draw since oscar retired. The only person you can compare Mayweather too is Oscar that's it. and Oscar is the biggest draw of all time so that tells you everything you need to know right there. The difference is Mayweather sells his skills, meaning when people pay to see mayweather fight the are paying to see the a person who everybody consider one of the best if not the best. Oscar was a draw because of his personality and nationality, so that means he could win or lose and it will not effect his market value. Pacquiao is a draw because of his nationality, because he is the pride of the pinnoys. So he will always be popular because his people will support him. In general most latin fighters have built in fan bases so they only need to be marginally good in order for them to attract fans because latin fans support their fighters. Example: Chris Arreolya, Miguel Cotto, Juan Diaz, Juan Manuel Lopez. But that is not the case for fighters of different races who dont have built in fan bases. Imagine if Paul Williams was Cuban or Rican or even more mexican, he would be the biggest sensation since the remote control. But Paul Williams isnt latin so he doesnt have that built in fanbase.. so that means he has to earn his fanbase through his skills and some kind of gimmick to get fans of other races who usally only support their fighters to come support him. Especially since boxing isnt a mainstrem sport anymore. Oh, so its because hes Black. I wonder how those white guys Ali, Leonard and Tyson did it?

It was not an impressive win. And he got TKO'd against Margarito, a smarter fighter would have beaten Antonio(Plaster or not). Point is Cotto is willing to fight all the best in his division, where as your hero isn't. THAT is an indisputable fact!

First off, Floyd said if he came back it would be for legacy. Second.....why are YOU so worried about the money? You're convinced Floyd is this massive draw. Fights with Cotto, Mosely or Williams should be can't miss. after all, these guys are much more established among average fans than JMM, no? lol, these stans remind of people who don't even remember their own lies and get caught up in their own web.

Mayweather is the biggest draw since oscar retired. The only person you can compare Mayweather too is Oscar that's it. and Oscar is the biggest draw of all time so that tells you everything you need to know right there. The difference is Mayweather sells his skills, meaning when people pay to see mayweather fight the are paying to see the a person who everybody consider one of the best if not the best. Oscar was a draw because of his personality and nationality, so that means he could win or lose and it will not effect his market value. Pacquiao is a draw because of his nationality, because he is the pride of the pinnoys. So he will always be popular because his people will support him. In general most latin fighters have built in fan bases so they only need to be marginally good in order for them to attract fans because latin fans support their fighters. Example: Chris Arreolya, Miguel Cotto, Juan Diaz, Juan Manuel Lopez. But that is not the case for fighters of different races who dont have built in fan bases. Imagine if Paul Williams was Cuban or Rican or even more mexican, he would be the biggest sensation since the remote control. But Paul Williams isnt latin so he doesnt have that built in fanbase.. so that means he has to earn his fanbase through his skills and some kind of gimmick to get fans of other races who usally only support their fighters to come support him. Especially since boxing isnt a mainstrem sport anymore.

It takes TWO to tango..... What dont you get??? There is NO MONEY in those fights......right now. Mayweather fought Baldi for 8-10 million..........and did 400k PPVS. He fought Oscar for 30 million and did over 2 million....the highest weve ever seen. IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO. First off, Floyd said if he came back it would be for legacy. Second.....why are YOU so worried about the money? You're convinced Floyd is this massive draw. Fights with Cotto, Mosely or Williams should be can't miss. after all, these guys are much more established among average fans than JMM, no?