Your the one without the grip "mija". This is nothing new, if you want to attack Oscar, attack Leonard, Ali, Hearns, Whitaker, Trinidad, Duran, JCC, etc etc etc the list goes on and on.........
Hey Mijo, let me make this clear to you, I'm not attacking Oscar as a person or as a fighter...I hate his fuking ways of telling lies infront of the camera. He should stucked with his 247 statements instead of making excuses to save face...But the way how you portray Oscar here is like you are his #1 fan..I'm also a fan of Oscar since he won a gold in the Olympics but I would say shit about his ways.......i rest my case...i apologise if i hurt your feelings...
It's not about being his #1 fan, it's just when people go over the top and say shit like you do. He's been a great fighter, given 100% of himself to the sport and I think he gets a pass on this one. Just like all the rest did.
My feelings are ok, it's your understanding of the fight game I have questions about.
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I don't want tell you the things I have been through because you wouldn't believe it. I fought amateur and had over 60 fights. I train amateurs now and guess what NEITHER ONE OF US know what it's like to be a pro fighter on the level of Oscar.
First off, I'm not your mijo, second, Oscar has been fighting for legacy for a long time now. Say what you want about the man, which I have met and spoke to personally, he has made the best fights available. He never ducked no one and his resume' speaks for it'self.
Not everyone was picking Oscar, I didn't pick Manny but I said it would be a much tougher fight than most people thought. Being the smaller and younger man can be an advantage, history has shows us that....
What do you want Oscar to say? "I can't beat him, don't buy the fight"? haha come one man, it's called promoting the fight. If you know anything about fighting, you would understand Oscar was done and you shouldn't have bought the fight. Nobody was holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it. If you have so much boxing knowledge, you should know which fights to buy and which ones to avoid. I didn't buy the Oscar vs Manny fight, Williams vs Wright fight, there's a few I skipped on because I knew it wasn't worth the money.
90% of the so called experts said what they said because of Oscars size, that's all the rated it at. Anyone could see Oscar wasn't the same fighter even when he fought Mayweather back 2 years ago. You really think a prime Oscar loses against Manny and Floyd? Really? Because if you do your a fool.
Maybe most but not Oscar. Oscar has been making more money outside the ring than he has in it for a while now. Golden Boy raked in over 350 million as a company last year.....that's no chump change. He owns the largest building in downtown L.A and owns stock in some very big companies, including Splenda the natural sweetner company. He has been fighting for legacy for a while now and he finally realized he doesn't have it. At the end of the Manny fight he walked up to Roach and said, "I just don't have it anymore".
Your the one without the grip "mija". This is nothing new, if you want to attack Oscar, attack Leonard, Ali, Hearns, Whitaker, Trinidad, Duran, JCC, etc etc etc the list goes on and on.........
Hey Mijo, let me make this clear to you, I'm not attacking Oscar as a person or as a fighter...I hate his fuking ways of telling lies infront of the camera. He should stucked with his 247 statements instead of making excuses to save face...But the way how you portray Oscar here is like you are his #1 fan..I'm also a fan of Oscar since he won a gold in the Olympics but I would say shit about his ways.......i rest my case...i apologise if i hurt your feelings...
the better boxer? since when did pacquiao become a fukin "boxer"? manny just does the same shit, left hand right hand, left hand right hand... all he does is rely on his left hand, pacquiao wouldnt stand a chance against the opposition Oscar faced u dumb fuk
How do u sound? So let me ask u a question if u were a boxer and your record was lets say 32-2 and u have been winning your fights by using left hand right hand left hand right hand would u change your style?
Give me a break Oscar LOST point blank period.. Like oscar's corner said " Pac is to fast"
ya boy wears women's lingerie homo
What the heck is he suppose to say? "I haven't been a prime fighter for a few years now and I don't see myself beating the Pacman. I will have to physically drain myself to make weight and expose myself to the speed of Pacman. If you're a betting man, bet the house on Pacquaio!"
When the hell does a fighter come out and publicly say he doesn't think he can win, he isn't in good shape, he doesn't feel good, he is past his prime...etc.
Its all nonsense. If you're betting on what a fighter says instead of what he can do in the given circumstances then its your own fault.
He should stucked with the statements he made during the 247 interviews ..Not making excuses and telling lies now to save face that he got beaten by a former flyweight...
What about the fact that he was so old, dehydrated, dead at the weight, that he couldn't throw punches, couldn't see them coming, could barely move because he was too weak, etc, all factors that left him as a walking punching bag for Manny.
Manny doesn't hit hard, he just hit so often that DLH got bruised up.
If he hit hard, DLH would have been KO'd by the 3rd or 4th.
there you go jching you got it...but that's not what he claimed to be when he sold that fight to the 1.2M PPV buyers....he said he was in tip top shape to beat Pacquiao...that's what this thread is all about..i'm not knocking OScar down as a fighter (Damn! if u r an Olympic Boxing Gold Medalist, u deserve all the credits in the world) but the lies he claimed then and the lies he's claiming now on the first video in this thread...
Hey JChing, I made this thread to compare and expose Oscar of the statements he issued when he was selling/promoting his fight with Pacman during the 247 show....Oscar's statement's then (prior to the fight) and now are completely opposite......A lot of people bought the PPV and bet on Oscar base on his 247 interviews....
What the heck is he suppose to say? "I haven't been a prime fighter for a few years now and I don't see myself beating the Pacman. I will have to physically drain myself to make weight and expose myself to the speed of Pacman. If you're a betting man, bet the house on Pacquaio!"
When the hell does a fighter come out and publicly say he doesn't think he can win, he isn't in good shape, he doesn't feel good, he is past his prime...etc.
Its all nonsense. If you're betting on what a fighter says instead of what he can do in the given circumstances then its your own fault.
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I've been in the ring as an amature fighter....and some crazy street fights where a guy got killed..there u go, i said it
I don't want tell you the things I have been through because you wouldn't believe it. I fought amateur and had over 60 fights. I train amateurs now and guess what NEITHER ONE OF US know what it's like to be a pro fighter on the level of Oscar.
what a statement right there...go on, yes...still convince yourself that Oscar cares about the boxing fans...you're funny mijo
First off, I'm not your mijo, second, Oscar has been fighting for legacy for a long time now. Say what you want about the man, which I have met and spoke to personally, he has made the best fights available. He never ducked no one and his resume' speaks for it'self.
it's one thing to believe you still got it and another thing telling the boxing fans with a straight face and gauranteeing that you could make the weight easily and picked/beat up the midget...
Not everyone was picking Oscar, I didn't pick Manny but I said it would be a much tougher fight than most people thought. Being the smaller and younger man can be an advantage, history has shows us that....
I don't hate the person, I hate what he's doing, the excuses and lies he's making..there's a big difference there......He's saying now that he's weight drained which is completely opposite to the statements he made on the 24/7 show...Isn't that lying? .So, you're telling me as PPV buyer that we should just shut up our holes and not question the BS they're feeding us? How about you, you never felt you got conned by Oscar in his last fight?
What do you want Oscar to say? "I can't beat him, don't buy the fight"? haha come one man, it's called promoting the fight. If you know anything about fighting, you would understand Oscar was done and you shouldn't have bought the fight. Nobody was holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it. If you have so much boxing knowledge, you should know which fights to buy and which ones to avoid. I didn't buy the Oscar vs Manny fight, Williams vs Wright fight, there's a few I skipped on because I knew it wasn't worth the money.
HAHAHA you are verry funny mijo...you are a genius...hindsight is always 20/20...but before the fight, 90% of the so called boxing experts picked oscar to beat up the midget...
90% of the so called experts said what they said because of Oscars size, that's all the rated it at. Anyone could see Oscar wasn't the same fighter even when he fought Mayweather back 2 years ago. You really think a prime Oscar loses against Manny and Floyd? Really? Because if you do your a fool.
Dude, I'm not insulting you but I think you're having a hard time understanding why fighters unretire... it's not about their belief that they could still be champions again...it's about money, one more con job...their fight is always just 1 step short of becoming a WWF matchup..
Maybe most but not Oscar. Oscar has been making more money outside the ring than he has in it for a while now. Golden Boy raked in over 350 million as a company last year.....that's no chump change. He owns the largest building in downtown L.A and owns stock in some very big companies, including Splenda the natural sweetner company. He has been fighting for legacy for a while now and he finally realized he doesn't have it. At the end of the Manny fight he walked up to Roach and said, "I just don't have it anymore".
I'm not hating, I hate their con jobs....that what I hate....your last statement only shows how naive u r.....get a grip mijo...QUOTE]
Your the one without the grip "mija". This is nothing new, if you want to attack Oscar, attack Leonard, Ali, Hearns, Whitaker, Trinidad, Duran, JCC, etc etc etc the list goes on and on.........
I read the thread title and the first few posts from you.
You made this thread to claim Oscar was not weight drained, was not a shadow of his former self, and that everything that happened in that fight was because Pacquiao was the better boxer and was too good. I don't care what else you said in the thread, that's why you made it in the first place.
Oscar was 35, had lost 3 of his last 6 fights, had not faught at welterweight for 9 years, had only been fighting 1 fight a year and was more focused on business than actual boxing.
Yes, Manny put on a good display, but he wouldn't have done against any proper welter.
Hey JChing, I made this thread to compare and expose Oscar of the statements he issued when he was selling/promoting his fight with Pacman during the 247 show....Oscar's statement's then (prior to the fight) and now are completely opposite......A lot of people bought the PPV and bet on Oscar base on his 247 interviews....
Oscar quit on the stool, my ass he didn't feel anything from Pacquiao. He was close to be ktfo, but decided to quit. For Oscar lying like a punk bitch, this picture will stay in my avatar. Who made Oscar look so damn ugly in this pic? oh, yeah that is the ass beating he took from manny. No one has ever made Oscars face look like that, so I guess Manny hits harder then anyone Oscars ever faced.
What about the fact that he was so old, dehydrated, dead at the weight, that he couldn't throw punches, couldn't see them coming, could barely move because he was too weak, etc, all factors that left him as a walking punching bag for Manny.
Manny doesn't hit hard, he just hit so often that DLH got bruised up.
If he hit hard, DLH would have been KO'd by the 3rd or 4th.
Dude read the whole thread.... I'm not going to fuking repeat myself to you...
I read the thread title and the first few posts from you.
You made this thread to claim Oscar was not weight drained, was not a shadow of his former self, and that everything that happened in that fight was because Pacquiao was the better boxer and was too good. I don't care what else you said in the thread, that's why you made it in the first place.
Oscar was 35, had lost 3 of his last 6 fights, had not faught at welterweight for 9 years, had only been fighting 1 fight a year and was more focused on business than actual boxing.
Yes, Manny put on a good display, but he wouldn't have done against any proper welter.
Oscar quit on the stool, my ass he didn't feel anything from Pacquiao. He was close to be ktfo, but decided to quit. For Oscar lying like a punk bitch, this picture will stay in my avatar. Who made Oscar look so damn ugly in this pic? oh, yeah that is the ass beating he took from manny. No one has ever made Oscars face look like that, so I guess Manny hits harder then anyone Oscars ever faced.
your exsposing him????lol..pacman did that 4 months ago...we already know what was up with that fight man.....and you're the one naive.....
LOL ..not the kind of exposing that Pacman did tool!
Please stop it..you're embarassing yourself too much...
exactly..whats the point of this thread??oscar is just stating the obvious..hell he gave pacman credit..
This thread is about the fuking con job Oscar pulled on the boxing fans...I'm exposing him.....Fuking boxing nooobsss...PLease don't reply to my threads if your're naive or boxing noobs!!!
Well then why make a thread saying he's full of s**t, when you and everyone else knows he WAS weight drained and WAS a shadow of himself.
Dude read the whole thread.... I'm not going to fuking repeat myself to you...
nobody claimed in this thread that Oscar is in tip top shape ...
Well then why make a thread saying he's full of s**t, when you and everyone else knows he WAS weight drained and WAS a shadow of himself.
F***ing hell there's still people who think Oscar was in tip-top condition against Manny??
U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E
nobody claimed in this thread that Oscar is in tip top shape ...
:hijacked:Listen man, I'm not going to insult you but I can tell you have never fought in your life.
I've been in the ring as an amature fighter....and some crazy street fights where a guy got killed..there u go, i said it
A boxer in training camp BELIEVES he still has it. I don't think Oscar was lying to the fans, I think Oscar was lying to himself
what a statement right there...go on, yes...still convince yourself that Oscar cares about the boxing fans...you're funny mijo
it's one thing to believe you still got it and another thing telling the boxing fans with a straight face and gauranteeing that you could make the weight easily and picked/beat up the midget...
You have so much hate for Oscar it's funny, I don't know why because if you felt "conned" from buying the fights, you should have stopped buying them.
I don't hate the person, I hate what he's doing, the excuses and lies he's making..there's a big difference there......He's saying now that he's weight drained which is completely opposite to the statements he made on the 24/7 show...Isn't that lying? .So, you're telling me as PPV buyer that we should just shut up our holes and not question the BS they're feeding us? How about you, you never felt you got conned by Oscar in his last fight?
He was a shot fighter, Roach saw it against Forbes. DLH has never been hit the way he was with Forbes but as the fighter, you are the last to know.
HAHAHA you are verry funny mijo...you are a genius...hindsight is always 20/20...but before the fight, 90% of the so called boxing experts picked oscar to beat up the midget...
You keep convincing yourself you have "one more" left in you and you don't. Same reason Leonard un-retired 10x, same reason Alit fought to long and the same reason Tito now wants to come back....
Dude, I'm not insulting you but I think you're having a hard time understanding why fighters unretire... it's not about their belief that they could still be champions again...it's about money, one more con job...their fight is always just 1 step short of becoming a WWF matchup..
Stop with the hate dude, fighters fight and their ego's sometimes outthink their brain...
I'm not hating, I hate their con jobs....that what I hate....your last statement only shows how naive u r.....get a grip mijo...QUOTE]
You fools that think Oscar was at his best or think what he was saying in that video are untrue are blind by hatred. The man looked like a starving ethiopian in the Pacman fight.
Oscar hasn't been a prime fighter for a while before the Pacman fight and on top of that he weight drained his ass as even Freddy Roach on the Pacquiao vs Hatton confirmed. Roach said he saw the IV marks on Oscar's arm and told Manny to pounce on his ass because they tried to rehydrate him.