Disgraceful Refereeing

I'm not talking about other instances of fighters getting hurt. If I was that averse to the risks of boxing I wouldn't be watching fights. I'm questioning how anyone could have looked at Taylor on the floor and thought he was going to be able to defend himself. Well then I suggest not watching fights that take place in America. Even now, despite the change in stopping fights earlier than the Olden Days, that's the way a lot of fights happen. Damn...I wonder what you would of said about the fights way back when.

nah, if taylor could of held on he might have won bullsh1t, he got brutalized because of the ref

Okay Mozza, here is why you are wrong. Taylor was ahead in the fight. Taylor had not taken much if any punishment over the preceding 12 rounds, and he like every fighter deserves the chance to get up. This is not like the Pavlik fight where he on the receiving end of a beat down for the entire fight before being brutally knocked down. He got tired, got hit with a few stupid punches, and went down. That is not grounds for a stoppage, that is a reason why fights are not stopped when a fighter gets knocked down. There is a reason why there is a 10 count for fights to beat.

nah, if taylor could of held on he might have won That's irrelevant, the referee isn't there to give Jermain Taylor the best shot at winning, he's there to make sure he's healthy and he very nearly wasn't.

And there have been many fighters who have said they been hit so hard that it caused them to forget the rest of the fight and they still fought on and won. Fighters fight hurt all the time. Could the fight have been stopped after the first knockdown? Sure. Taylor could have stayed down; his trainer could have stepped in; and it's up to the ref to call it. Should it have? depends on your fighter in many ways. The stoppage the way it happened was better. For health reasons: yeah, after the first knock-down it should have been stopped but if we are getting into the health issue, it's better just not to box and ban it. Although, we can just keep it with the point style fights the amateur system has. Good luck on selling that in America even in its pussified state at the moment. But you can have it. The World doesn't revolve around America. But, how about you have your way of fighting and we have ours. Three people decide: The Fighter, The trainer, The ref. The Refs is the key since he isn't bias to the fighter (hopefully), although refs know certain fighters can handle more, which is why Gatti was allowed to go despite taking a beating. It was also the LAST ROUND in a Championship fight. The Ref did a Good job. I'm not talking about other instances of fighters getting hurt. If I was that averse to the risks of boxing I wouldn't be watching fights. I'm questioning how anyone could have looked at Taylor on the floor and thought he was going to be able to defend himself.

That was a scandalous decision. There's no way in hell Taylor should have been allowed to continue after that knockdown. nah, if taylor could of held on he might have won

it was hardly "disgraceful" refeering he gave a fighter he fully well knows is capable the opportunity to survive 20 seconds and win the fight and world title that's not unreasonable and you're exaggerating somewhat just how hurt Taylor was/how clean Froch's connects were Taylor wasn't capable though and his subsequent attempts to defend himself proved that. Taylor was badly hurt when he went down and my point about Froch's subsequent punches is that he didn't get anything meaningful behind many of them which was by luck rather than design because if he had Taylor could have been badly hurt.

You must be having a laugh? He didn't know if it was New York or New Year and his eyes were heavily glazed. He couldn't even see the ref when he was standing in front of him and as soon as Froch came near him he was incapable of defending himself. And there have been many fighters who have said they been hit so hard that it caused them to forget the rest of the fight and they still fought on and won. Fighters fight hurt all the time. Could the fight have been stopped after the first knockdown? Sure. Taylor could have stayed down; his trainer could have stepped in; and it's up to the ref to call it. Should it have? depends on your fighter in many ways. The stoppage the way it happened was better. For health reasons: yeah, after the first knock-down it should have been stopped but if we are getting into the health issue, it's better just not to box and ban it. Although, we can just keep it with the point style fights the amateur system has. Good luck on selling that in America even in its pussified state at the moment. But you can have it. The World doesn't revolve around America. But, how about you have your way of fighting and we have ours. Three people decide: The Fighter, The trainer, The ref. The Refs is the key since he isn't bias to the fighter (hopefully), although refs know certain fighters can handle more, which is why Gatti was allowed to go despite taking a beating. It was also the LAST ROUND in a Championship fight. The Ref did a Good job.

What's unnecessary about it? I think the ref put Taylor at risk, this a forum where such opinions can be expressed ergo I've posted it. it was hardly "disgraceful" refeering he gave a fighter he fully well knows is capable the opportunity to survive 20 seconds and win the fight and world title that's not unreasonable and you're exaggerating somewhat just how hurt Taylor was/how clean Froch's connects were

i agree thread is unnecessary What's unnecessary about it? I think the ref put Taylor at risk, this a forum where such opinions can be expressed ergo I've posted it.

I think the referee did his job well. i agree thread is unnecessary

What rules? Amateur rules; European rules? "Let me go out on my shield"- Boxer's mind....and really what fans want; at least American fans (which include the Mexicans and Canadians). Stop trying to pussify it like the amateur system. The amateur system is a DISGRACE. They should go back to the way it used to be. It's also why you see so called "great" amateurs that end up disappointing with their style in the Pro ranks unless they adjust. Maybe we should start to stop fights once someone gets hurt. Lots of standing 8 counts like the amateurs. If we had it your way, Gatti vs. Ward would have been stopped; Chico vs. Castillo would have been stopped; many fights would have been stopped. Don't talk to me like Americans are some kind of heroic tribe, we've just witnessed evidence which contradicts that absurd notion. Quite simply there was no way Taylor was going to be able to defend himself and citing two rare examples of fights where guys have come back from the brink doesn't change that.

I think the referee did his job well.

Who cares where it is, the same rules apply. Nobody with half a brain could have thought Taylor was going to do anything else other than absorb punishment if he got back up. What rules? Amateur rules; European rules? "Let me go out on my shield"- Boxer's mind....and really what fans want; at least American fans (which include the Mexicans and Canadians). Stop trying to pussify it like the amateur system. The amateur system is a DISGRACE. They should go back to the way it used to be. It's also why you see so called "great" amateurs that end up disappointing with their style in the Pro ranks unless they adjust. Maybe we should start to stop fights once someone gets hurt. Lots of standing 8 counts like the amateurs. If we had it your way, Gatti vs. Ward would have been stopped; Chico vs. Castillo would have been stopped; many fights would have been stopped.

unbelievable i just been running around the room for the last 5 minutes while trying to not wake up the rest of the family but woah how did one of the jjudges have it 106-102 for froch lol Because that judge was either british and biased as ****, or smoked crack and doesn't realize punches don't count when you hit the opponents glove.

Yes, he was perfectly aware of where he was, and had his eyes on the ref through the whole count. You must be having a laugh? He didn't know if it was New York or New Year and his eyes were heavily glazed. He couldn't even see the ref when he was standing in front of him and as soon as Froch came near him he was incapable of defending himself.

I'm not really interested in dissecting Froch's credentials, we can do that elsewhere. This is about a referee neglecting to do his job. I don't know how anyone can honestly say they think Taylor was in a fit state to continue after that knockdown. Did you see the state of him? Yes, he was perfectly aware of where he was, and had his eyes on the ref through the whole count.

Nothing wrong with the refereeing. Taylor CHOKED. End of story.

did someone say a judge had froch up on points??? If so who the **** was judging it??? Robin Hood?

Perfect stoppage? I dunno Taylor deserved a crack at hanging on. But he stopped it at the right time. Taylor eyes to the floor, and Froch basically with 14 seconds of free full-blown shots to the head. In this country we would have stopped it sooner but Taylor could have seen it through. I dunno it is difficult.