I'm not sure. Floyd doesn't have the style that usually beat Tszyu (Come forward swarming fighter, Hatton + Phillips). However, his defensive ability and counter punching may allow him to win a UD. Floyd has a good chin, but Tszyu had incredible power, so it's a case of if Tszyu catches him, and if Floyd could take that power.... I'm not sure either way.
It's a close one IMO, but I like Floyd by UD.
yea, Tszyu had enough skill to clearly set himself apart from certain fighters, even if they were a bad style disadvantage to him. but Tackie wasnt all that great, although he was a tough guy with a great workrate.
Im just saying that if you put Kostya against guys like Julio Cesar Chavez or Aaron Pryor, he would get his butt kicked. but if you put him up against guys like 140lb De La Hoya or Mayweather, I think he would give a very good account of himself, possibly beating either.
No dout Tackie was a solid fighter in his prime, who was extremely tough and had a good work rate.
But he wasn't no were near the level of pressure a prime Aaron Pryor or Julio Cesar Chavez or no were near the level fighters they were. And in my mind a prime Pryor and Chavez get wins over a prime Tszyu at 140.
As do to Mayweather and De La Hoya.
But Tsyzu was a great fighter in his prime and very dominat at 140 in his prime years.
Tszyu at times seemed to struggle with pressure, but when Ben Tackie put alot of pressure on Tzysu, Tszyu showed his boxing skills and boxed very nicely off the backfoot and used his movement and boxing brain to completey outbox Tackie. Virtually Wipe Washing him.
yea, Tszyu had enough skill to clearly set himself apart from certain fighters, even if they were a bad style disadvantage to him. but Tackie wasnt all that great, although he was a tough guy with a great workrate.
Im just saying that if you put Kostya against guys like Julio Cesar Chavez or Aaron Pryor, he would get his butt kicked. but if you put him up against guys like 140lb De La Hoya or Mayweather, I think he would give a very good account of himself, possibly beating either.
Tszyu actually was very good against boxers and speedy guys. he could adjust to their speed very effectively and in a short time, and his outstanding timing could make them pay. also quite good at keeping the fight within his preferred range.
now, you put Tszyu against an effective pressure fighter, and hes going to get smashed. but he was particularly good against boxers, and for that reason I think he has a reasonably good chance at beating Mayweather.
Tszyu at times seemed to struggle with pressure, but when Ben Tackie put alot of pressure on Tzysu, Tszyu showed his boxing skills and boxed very nicely off the backfoot and used his movement and boxing brain to completey outbox Tackie. Virtually Wipe Washing him.
Simple
FM Jr would run the entire night and win by points. Unlike Floyd, Judah wanted to be Tyson. So he stood and fought more than he should even after that fight.
KT would only take 2 hits to KO Floyd though but could he ever get those 2 in?
Victoriano Sosa had some good success against Floyd by timing the right hand, and always keeping it loaded and ready.
that was one of the the things Kostya did wonderfully. beautiful timing with the right hand, he always had that punch ready to go at almost any moment.
I dont know, personally I can see some resemblance in Sosa's style and Tszyu's style, and Kostya was much better than Sosa timing wise.
that being said, Mayweather is excellent at changing strategy to win the fight. this would definately be a close fight.
Tszyu actually was very good against boxers and speedy guys. he could adjust to their speed very effectively and in a short time, and his outstanding timing could make them pay. also quite good at keeping the fight within his preferred range.
now, you put Tszyu against an effective pressure fighter, and hes going to get smashed. but he was particularly good against boxers, and for that reason I think he has a reasonably good chance at beating Mayweather.
you are severly underestimating the zoo at a buck 40. floyd is floyd. everyone knows that, but he would have a good chance of losing to kostya.
I'm not underestimating him at all, In fact I have him at #10 on my best fighters of 2000-2009 list. I'm very well aware of his capabilities.
I just really think it's a clash of styles that Kostya would have a very hard time dealing with.
Ive always been 50/50 on this fight. Not with who wins but how Floyd wins. I think Floyd wins it but part of me thinks that he destroys Tszyu and the other part of me thinks that Tszyu could give him some real trouble and lose a close fight. In no way could Tszyu dismantle him like the thread starter says. 1st you have to remember that this fight would be at 140 and while Tszyu is a very big Jr. WW, he's still not big enough for Floyd to have to pot shot. That means that Floyd would be very aggressive in this fight. Im not saying that he goes all out on Offense but he would definatly not be a pot shot guy against Tszyu.
I also still stand by the fact that I truly beleive that there is virtualy no righty in history let alone right now that could hit a "prime" Mayweather with clean shots. I beleive he has truly mastered his D and you can only beat him by being so much bigger that he cant do anything but pot shot or you have to be a Southpaw. I just dont beleive that no one else is going to hit him clean if your a righty, no matter how good you are. Add that to the fact that Tszyu was slow like a zombie and I could see Floyd destroying him. The reason why I think Tszyu could possibly give him alot of trouble is that while its at 140, Tszyu was still a very big 140 pounder so he would have the size advantage and while he is slow, he does have great timing and a very explosive punch when he does decide to throw it. I could kind of see him outmuscling Floyd like he did Mitchell. Still, I think Floyd would have a little too much in that case and would still win a very close decision. If it happeneds the other way then Floyd dominates
You know who has even better timing? Yup, Mayweather does, plus he has the speed advantage. Mayweather would not put himself in positions very often that would make him vulnerable to a straight right, period. One thing that I know for certain, is that versatility is the best way to beat Floyd. Cotto has it, Oscar had it, Mosley has it and Kostya Tzsyu certainly did not.
you are severly underestimating the zoo at a buck 40. floyd is floyd. everyone knows that, but he would have a good chance of losing to kostya.
in part yes, but kostya has some of the best timing of any fighter i have seen. the best way to kill speed is with great timing.
You know who has even better timing? Yup, Mayweather does, plus he has the speed advantage. Mayweather would not put himself in positions very often that would make him vulnerable to a straight right, period. One thing that I know for certain, is that versatility is the best way to beat Floyd. Cotto has it, Oscar had it, Mosley has it and Kostya Tzsyu certainly did not.
Kosta knocks Mayweather out in 6
Agreed. He was one of the few that could beat Mayweather. The only weakness Tszyu had was against tough, aggressive pressure fighters. He destroyed slick and cute boxers all day every day and twice on sunday.
I always felt if they would of met at 140, Mayweather would of defeated Tszyu. By using his speed, movement and timing to get a decision victory or a late stoppage win, but Tsyzu may have his moments in the fight.
Stlyistically this is really bad for Kostya Tzsyu, Mayweather by WIDE decision.
Mayweather is too good defensively and far too smart to not get nailed by a straight right hand, which is Kostya Tzsyu's primary weapon.
in part yes, but kostya has some of the best timing of any fighter i have seen. the best way to kill speed is with great timing.
Stlyistically this is really bad for Kostya Tzsyu, Mayweather by WIDE decision.
Mayweather is too good defensively and far too smart to not get nailed by a straight right hand, which is Kostya Tzsyu's primary weapon.
ye thats true i suppose
i still find it hard 2 believe that hatton beat tsyzu,i really do lol
Stlyistically this is really bad for Kostya Tzsyu, Mayweather by WIDE decision.
Mayweather is too good defensively and far too smart to not get nailed by a straight right hand, which is Kostya Tzsyu's primary weapon.