What's the difference between Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch?

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Pavlik is bald. I find your sig hilarious:lol1:

he will win the same way mayweather beat hatton. the same way mosley beat margarito hatton and marg were meant 2 have iron chins like froch,and theres had been tested aswell,but they were 2 easy 2 hit and got ko'ed by relatively small punchers so dont give me this chin bull please its old taylor is miles ahead of froch in boxing skill.FACT Unlike Mayweather and Mosley, Taylor's stamina is absolutely shit. I can't see him keeping it going for the full 12 rounds? Froch will find him eventually, and i can't see Talyor's chin holding up.

Taylor lost to Pavlik because Taylor totally lost his way after the BHop and Winky fights. I have no idea what happened to him but he just couldn't seem to cope with being the champ. Maybe he lost the drive he had as a challenger, I dunno. Earlier Taylor would have made a fool of Pavlik. Hell he almost did it in the first fight anyway and most referees would have stopped it. As for now, I have no idea. I don't know why but I'm expecting Froch to freeze on the big stage.

Pavlik has a much better resume than Froch. I think Carl has a decent chance to beat Taylor, but I definitely give the edge to Taylor.

disagreement asside... ive noticed that ALL brits think froch will kill him and ALL americans think the opposite :rofl: nuh uh. this limey has got taylor to win. i am rooting for taylor/

Correction, those are opinions. FACT. And Pavlik's power is unproven at 168. FACT. Cheerio. he will win the same way mayweather beat hatton. the same way mosley beat margarito hatton and marg were meant 2 have iron chins like froch,and theres had been tested aswell,but they were 2 easy 2 hit and got ko'ed by relatively small punchers so dont give me this chin bull please its old taylor is miles ahead of froch in boxing skill.FACT

Correction, those are opinions. FACT. And Pavlik's power is unproven at 168. FACT. Cheerio. Pavlik said the extra weight slows him down . He'd be better staying at 160 . P4P to date looking at the two records I would say Pavlik's the better fighter and well known for his power p4p as well .

I wouldn't say Pavlik's one dimensional . He even said after the Hopkins fight the weight slowed him down and he struggled to double up on his jab . This fight for me will tell if Froch's world class or not . Will he be able to keep his belt and his 0 or will he do a Junior Witter and get beat . Simialar situations , Witter calling out Hatton and Froch calling out Calzaghe , we'll see .

So, how many posts are you going to make about Pavlik's power at 168 or him being one dimensional? Is that making you feel better about Froch's chances against Taylor? Here's what it comes down to, Froch is fighting Taylor, not Pavlik. FACT. Triangle theories mean NOTHING. FACT. On this board Pavlik is one of the most underrated fighters today. FACT. Oh, and Taylor takes this fight, easily. FACT. Correction, those are opinions. FACT. And Pavlik's power is unproven at 168. FACT. Cheerio.

The fact is, Pavlik's power is unproven at 168. So, how many posts are you going to make about Pavlik's power at 168 or him being one dimensional? Is that making you feel better about Froch's chances against Taylor? Here's what it comes down to, Froch is fighting Taylor, not Pavlik. FACT. Triangle theories mean NOTHING. FACT. On this board Pavlik is one of the most underrated fighters today. FACT. Oh, and Taylor takes this fight, easily. FACT.

What's the difference between them? Have you never watched either of them fight? Pavlik is a high workrate, pressure fighter who always comes forward and pumps his jab non-stop, using it to set up his right hand. He's done good body work in his recent fights but struggles with movement and angles. He keeps his hands high and defends his chin pretty well. He's tall and fights tall. Froch is an awkward fighter who sometimes applies pressure but is also happy to sit and wait for counterpunching opportunities. He often throws one shot at a time, looking for a KO. He's strong but the verdict is still out on just how strong he is at the world level. He keeps his hands low and is EASY to hit. He's got a decent jab when he remembers to use it, but it's nowhere near as proven as Pavlik's (or Taylor's). He's not as tall as Kelly and doesn't fight as tall either. There are a LOT of differences between Froch and Pavlik. You'd be smarter to ask how they are similar.... they are both white boxers within 8 lbs of each other with good power. THE END.

He was unable to knock out Jean Pascal...who else did Froch knock out at 168? Taylor will win this fight by decision, many people bringing up the Pavlik fight are forgetting that styles make fights, Froch doesnt throw as much as Pavlik does, nor does he throws as many combinations as Pavlik, infact he throws single punches. I saw Jean Pascal hurt more in his other fights than the fight with Froch, a journeyman hurt him more. Froch couldn't even KO a past-prime Robin Reid, he made him quit. People are also forgetting Taylor has had weight issues, and he will be much comfortable at 168, he had been weight drained in his past fights and both Steward and Taylor mentioned this before. Both Taylor and Froch have a habit of keeping their hands low, but Taylor is the more proven fighter. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one mate. The fact is, Pavlik's power is unproven at 168.

Carl froch does not have more power then pavlik, Froch hasn't ko'd anyone of note. Couldn't even KO pascal, when pascal was hurt by other opponents who don't even have power. This fight is at 168. Pavlik's power is unproven at 168. Froch's power isn't. FACT. Lets take away the fact that, a lot of the top opponents at 168 didn't want to know when Froch came a calling. He has offered to fight anyone at that weight class! Kessler, Bute, Balzsay and Taylor were all called out, but no one responded. Taylor declined not to face Froch and instead fought Jeff Lacy for crying out loud! Denis Inkin pulled out of a fight with Froch TWICE!

i hate Froch as much as thenext man but be real. Pavlik does not hit as hard as froch to suggest otherwise is unwise. Na mean? once again i ask how its possible to come to this conclusion ? so if froch loses or doesnt ko him i guess ull be proved wrong then ?

What my main point was is that if Taylor can be stopped at 160 by Pavlik then he can certainly be stopped at 168 by a more powerful Carl Froch. Carl froch does not have more power then pavlik, Froch hasn't ko'd anyone of note. Couldn't even KO pascal, when pascal was hurt by other opponents who don't even have power.

what's the difference between Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch? Kelly Pavlik is American, and Froch is a Euro bum. :lol1: :owned: :rofl: No, seriously though. Pavlik did have a better record of competition before facing Taylor than Froch does. Froch has Pascal, as his big win. Pavlik had Zuniga, Miranda, and Zertuche. I like Taylor to win a decision, but Froch is very lively in this. Taylor has shit stamina. What my main point was is that if Taylor can be stopped at 160 by Pavlik then he can certainly be stopped at 168 by a more powerful Carl Froch. Doesn't really matter how good of a boxer Taylor is, if he can be taken out, he can be taken out, and Froch has the ability to take him out.

This is the truth. And as free swinging and wild Pascal can get he had no trouble landing on Froch. Just watit til a faster, more precise Taylor gets in there. exactly,pascal was a poor mans lacy

so u think froch would beat pavlik,seriously? IMO Froch would beat Pavlik at 168.

Froch took a beating by pascal, fight was 7-5 on the scorecards. That is not a dominate win over pascal. Pascal lost clearly, but he clearly stunned Froch a couple of times. :)