Paul Williams' Kryptonite

For the second time in Paul Williams career the bandwagon is full of new fans. But how long are we going to hype The Punisher??? IMO, he is the most difficult boxer to fight with from welter to middle weights without a doubt. Long ago I posted on how he will do against other fighters. After he beated Margarito, I thought that no one could beat PW, not even PBF, Mosley, Cotto, Cintron, Forrest, Santos, Angulo, Kirkland, Sergio Martinez, Pavlik, Sturm, and Abraham. Eighter opponents would be too short, or too slow, or lack boxing skills to overcome PW attributes. Then the Quintana fight came along and shock the boxing world by delivering 12 perfect rounds to outbox and defeat Paul Williams. It was the first time that I was glad while loosing bet money. Now it is a matter of time before another boxer demonstrates that Paul Williams is not unbeatable. At WELTER WEIGHT, I believe PBF could be that fighter, but then again, recent history shows us he will take on smaller, slower or older opponents ONLY. (Gatti, Baldo, ODLH, Hatton) So PBF is out of the picture. Can Cotto be the one to weaken PW with body shots??? That tall skinny body sure can be broken down the stretch with devastating left hooks to his body. Tough call. I don't see anyone on 154lbs having a chance agaisnt The Punisher, maybe Sergio Martinez, as he moves horizontaly very well, uses well the space in the ring, his speed is decent and he showed to have a good chin when he fought Kermit Cintron. But I would not put money on Sergio. At Middle Weight, I only see Pavlik having a chance due to his past experience, and power. Great boxers could not beat Jermaine Taylor, and Pavlik did it twice... can't forget that fact. Sturm, and Abraham can't handle The Punisher, period. So once again, Paul Williams is the most avoided fighter in Boxing Today. But who you got able to beat him and why??? If Quintana did it, why can't another boxer do the same. I appreciate Paul Williams and love to watch his fights, but I keep my feet on the ground, HE AIN'T SUPERMAN, and if he was, there is always KRYPTONITE!!!

Comments (20)

TO ALL PAUL WILLIAMS FANS: Is it true that Clottey called PW out and PW decided not to fight Clottey??? Would like to read where that shi-t came from???

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

yeah, but cotto hasn't been fighting mummies lately. PW's last 3 opponents put together are 113 years old, and i won't even touch the ring rust issue anyone can look great against that kind of opposition, don't let it go to your head No matter what, PW physical advantages will be there in case he faces Cotto.

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

It would be interesting for a while. Kirkland tries to murder every opponent he faces. LOL, you are right about that one. But The Punisher will bring him back to earth and reality. Kirkland got lots of potential, and to be hoenst with you, I don't know if his trainer will maximize his potential. I don't know her. What do you think???

17y ago

Kirkland would be outboxed and ridiculed by Paul Williams. It would be interesting for a while. Kirkland tries to murder every opponent he faces.

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

Abraham mite get him at 160, and a fight with Kirkland would be interesting. I think Paul could outbox Pavlik to a close but clear win. Pavlik will land some blows but I think Paul's chin will hold up. Pavlik has problems wit a lotta movement. Paul can't jus stand in the middle of the ring wit Pavlik though. Kirkland would be outboxed and ridiculed by Paul Williams.

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

if a B class fighter can beat williams in a great night, a world class fighter could do the same or better in a good night El Indio might be considered a B-class fighter, but that is pretty much unfair. His only 2 loses are agaisnt 2 elite top fighters. He is not considered a top 10 WelterWeight, but I bet he beats a couple of those considered on the top, including Berto, Collazo, Cintron, Hlatshwayo, Bonsu, Delvin Rodriguez and Senchenko. Fock, even throw Clottey on the list for the sake of this discussion. I believe that if Quintana were more outspoken, he would had had a chance at a tittle agaisnt Berto or Clottey already.

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

Thx man. ButShane looks clueless aginst guys that are slick..fast..southpaw and taller then him with good jabs. Thats why he chose Marg..Marg is tall..but isnt anything close to being slick. No problema amigo... I wish there were more people willing to have an intelligent discussion in this forum without the hate and the blindness shown by a lot of fans in here. We are entittle to defend our opinions as long as the opinions are well based on facts, not just hear-say...

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

Because styles and situations makes fights....... SSM could NEVER beat a left hander whos taller then him with a jab...Winky..Forrest...Williams. Williams didnt prepare well..and over looked Quitana....and Q won...congrats. Williams then KO'd in the rematch and is becoming one of the biggest names in the sport... You are right, SSM is out as kryptonite candidate. SSM's case is oficially closed. Good K for ya!!!

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

Idf Shane says theyre styles dont match up..Ill take his word for it. Hes 37...he gets did worse then Winky..because hes easier to hit. What you say is true, but I believe that if Quintana could, why not SSM???

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

Still reminds me of Michael Nunn.. Great, but not THAT great.. Mosley/Abraham have his number... Mosley could be kryptonite, you are so right. Still SSM publicly stated that he doesn't want to fight Paul Williams. Too bad, as that match will be very interesting since SSM got speed, power, elusiveness and experience to beat The Punisher. Then again, PW after Quintana should not be understimating an opponent and would prepared better for a fight agaisnt SSM.

17y ago

mickey_malone

Still reminds me of Michael Nunn.. Great, but not THAT great.. Mosley/Abraham have his number...

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

I think Abrahma can get him eventually. But it would be a tough fight for any of them. he beats Pavlik Hopkins-esque like. And i give cotto a chance as well. he punches alot but if you maul him and rough him up, you can win. 1 of the ways to beat him is Quintana like and get off and get out the way. Or you can get off and tie him up and maul him and stop him from getting off. pavlik doesn't have the best footwork or the ability to cut the ring off effectively to beat him. but cotto could and so could Abraham. So you think Abraham got the ability to cut the ring agaisnt Paul Willimas. Interesting... would like to hear what others think... I really don't know if he could or not. Abraham can go straight ahead and cut the ring, but to do it agaisnt PW is not an easy task for a "tank" like him.

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

It's hard to say how Williams will deal with a big, natural middleweight with power since he hasn't fought one yet, I'd still pick Abraham and Pavlik over him right now, you're right though, they're styles don't match up well against Williams' especially Abraham's because of how much he covers up and fights in spurts but Williams has to prove a little more at the weight first. I think Williams is just too tall and long for Cotto, I mean Williams is about 6'3, Cotto is 5'7, Williams' reach is 82", Cotto's is 67". Cotto could have some success against Williams because of his movement but there was a lot of wasted movement against Margarito, which caused him to fade as the fight went on, which eventually led to him getting knocked out, he hasn't shown he can move smartly the way Quintana did against Williams, if Cotto fights the way he did against Margarito, I see him fading late and losing the fight, starting well and maybe leading through 6 before slowing down. But if he shows that he can move smartly and counterpunch, his chances improve big time with me. Now I'm not saying it'd be a blowout or anything but I see it as being a pretty clear win for Williams right now. Good post. I respect your opinion.

17y ago

cortdawg25

17y ago

Silencers

Totally agree with you. That's why I will give PBF, Sergio Martinez and even Cotto a chance. But in Middle Weights, none of the top 10 have a significant speed and lateral movement for me to expect them to neutralize PW. Winky was the only Skilled Southpaw in the top of the division and looked awful agaisnt The Punisher. Pavlik and Abraham got power, but power is not enough to convincingly beat PW. It's hard to say how Williams will deal with a big, natural middleweight with power since he hasn't fought one yet, I'd still pick Abraham and Pavlik over him right now, you're right though, they're styles don't match up well against Williams' especially Abraham's because of how much he covers up and fights in spurts but Williams has to prove a little more at the weight first. You feeling a win for Cotto then, Silencers? I mean, the Cotto in the first few rounds of the Margarito fight would give Williams all sorts of problems. I think Williams is just too tall and long for Cotto, I mean Williams is about 6'3, Cotto is 5'7, Williams' reach is 82", Cotto's is 67". Cotto could have some success against Williams because of his movement but there was a lot of wasted movement against Margarito, which caused him to fade as the fight went on, which eventually led to him getting knocked out, he hasn't shown he can move smartly the way Quintana did against Williams, if Cotto fights the way he did against Margarito, I see him fading late and losing the fight, starting well and maybe leading through 6 before slowing down. But if he shows that he can move smartly and counterpunch, his chances improve big time with me. Now I'm not saying it'd be a blowout or anything but I see it as being a pretty clear win for Williams right now.

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

Williams doesn't fight that way, as we saw in the Quintana fight, he couldn't get his feet set to throw his punches when his opponents move, he didn't cut off the ring well in that fight and kept reaching in with his punches, bending down in the process which opened himself up to punches, Verno Phillips had a little success when he was moving side to side as well but those moments came few and far between. Just because you have size and length doesn't mean you know how to stop lateral movement, you need to know how to cut off the ring etc. Williams isn't that good at that. Trust me, smart movement is the way to beat Williams, make him miss by ducking under his shots, step to the side, make him reset and blast him. Totally agree with you. That's why I will give PBF, Sergio Martinez and even Cotto a chance. But in Middle Weights, none of the top 10 have a significant speed and lateral movement for me to expect them to neutralize PW. Winky was the only Skilled Southpaw in the top of the division and looked awful agaisnt The Punisher. Pavlik and Abraham got power, but power is not enough to convincingly beat PW.

17y ago

MaFu_MoFo

also, not to take anything away from quintana, but it's clearly evident PW overlooked him for the first fight, and was surprised of quintana's skill level. quintana's a decent fighter, but clearly not in the same class, and that lost made PW take things a lil more seriously. i'd love to see a third fight, to shut everyone up, as if the second fight wasn't enough.... True, true. Paul understimated Quintana. Quintana became like a standard the night he beated PW. Now, I like to use Quintana and compared him to others, such as Berto, Cintron, Collazo, Clottey. For example, how will Berto do if he fights Quintana.??? That's a fight I would like to see. But I guess it will not be that different from the fight agaisnt Collazo. BTW, Collazo and Berto NEED to fight again. If Berto doesn't fight Collazo again, he will lose more respect.

17y ago

Silencers

How much of a chance would you give Cory Spinks to beat Paul Williams. I haven't seen him fight in a while, if his legs are fresh and he's able to move around and be slick, he can win against Williams. Stylistically, it's a bad fight for Williams.

17y ago

KnockoutTheFat

Williams doesn't fight that way, as we saw in the Quintana fight, he couldn't get his feet set to throw his punches when his opponents move, he didn't cut off the ring well in that fight and kept reaching in with his punches, bending down in the process which opened himself up to punches, Verno Phillips had a little success when he was moving side to side as well but those moments came few and far between. Just because you have size and length doesn't mean you know how to stop lateral movement, you need to know how to cut off the ring etc. Williams isn't that good at that. Trust me, smart movement is the way to beat Williams, make him miss by ducking under his shots, step to the side, make him reset and blast him. How much of a chance would you give Cory Spinks to beat Paul Williams. I actually give him a good chance

17y ago