your top 10 middleweights at the moment, super, middle and light middle

1.kessler 2.pavlik 3.abraham 4.taylor 5.martinez 6.sturm 7.bute 8.dzindziruk 9.williams 10.forrest

who has froch beat? no one but hes still a higher ranked boxer and IF he beats taylor then he would have beaten someone but he wont

watch kessler hammer andrade about the ring... even watch the calzaghe fight... and the mundine fight , watch him ko beyer... its just bad mangement that he hasnt fought the yanks yet thats all.... indeed that is true

kessler isnt best until he beats, froch, taylor or bute. he most probably could beat them, but im not sure he could beat taylor. who has froch beat?

jesus christ. when did calzaghe duck hopkins and jones? calzaghe called both out and signed to fight hopkins in 2001 only for hopkins to pull out and demand double the money. Calzaghe ducked Glen Johnson, well he claimed he damaged his hands, we all know he ducked him.

i like kessler a lot but he needs big fights soon cuz he hasnt proved anything since losing to calzaghe yes thank you my point exactly

boxrec's rankings are stupid, i only look at it for upcoming fights or to see a fighters record. they have b-hop as run away p4p #1 and have pacquiao like #4. kessler is the best super middleweight and nothing overrated about him. i like kessler a lot but he needs big fights soon cuz he hasnt proved anything since losing to calzaghe

yeah, i want pavlik and abraham to fight and taylor and kessler Indeed. The top matchups available. The first one is likely. The second isn't.

I can see an argument for putting Pavlik above Kessler solely based on his wins over Taylor. But Abraham? You gotta be kidding. Resumé wise he hasn't done anything apart from some highlight reel KO's. yeah, i want pavlik and abraham to fight and taylor and kessler

the reason i wont make a list is that i would put my favoured boxers in and i would take their hole career into account which is stupid i know. and as for kessler i would have him 3rd or 4th, needs to prove himself with one more big fight and if he wins then i will have at no. 1 holyshithot, yeah i was just thinking about careers, my bad. i would have pavlik or abraham first then kessler and taylor I can see an argument for putting Pavlik above Kessler solely based on his wins over Taylor. But Abraham? You gotta be kidding. Resumé wise he hasn't done anything apart from some highlight reel KO's.

the reason i wont make a list is that i would put my favoured boxers in and i would take their hole career into account which is stupid i know. and as for kessler i would have him 3rd or 4th, needs to prove himself with one more big fight and if he wins then i will have at no. 1 holyshithot, yeah i was just thinking about careers, my bad. i would have pavlik or abraham first then kessler and taylor

no, sorry if i made it sound like i was saying their opinion is stupid. and tbh with you i dont know how to order it but kessler wouldnt be top, maybe pavlik, taylor or williams I'm sorry but you've slagged people off for having Kessler top and said 'who has he fought?' but now you've said you might have Paul Williams top. LMFAO, who the **** has he fought at LMW, MW and SMW? Andy Kolle and Verno Phillips??? Come on now

10 years from now half of those guys have still not faced each other and built up "impressive" records consistent of "mandatories" and they will all be ATG fighters. A few like Pavlik will try to get big fights but will fail but most of those guys have Zaghe agendas. I took that kind of thing into account, hence why I don't have Mundine in my top 10. They may not be ATG but those are the current crop at LMW, MW and SMW. There are other up and comers's too such as Angulo and Martinez too but at the moment they have done even less to prove themselves than the top ten I put.

Pavlik, Taylor or Williams? Not surprised u aint made a list. You would get owned! TS has dissapeared............

wow you have taylor very low boxrec have him second but then again they have bute first, not to hate but personally i think kessler is overrated I was taking what they have done at their current weight into account though and at SMW Jermaine just has the win against Lacy and before that 2 losses to Pavlik (1 at MW, 1 at catchweight).

no, sorry if i made it sound like i was saying their opinion is stupid. and tbh with you i dont know how to order it but kessler wouldnt be top, maybe pavlik, taylor or williams You cannot make a list yourself but you can take the liberty to ridicule others who do? :nonono::nonono::nonono:

You ask a question. Posters give their shot at answering. You ridicule them. What a pathetic move. Now you've heard multiple answers. How about you give us your top 10? no, sorry if i made it sound like i was saying their opinion is stupid. and tbh with you i dont know how to order it but kessler wouldnt be top, maybe pavlik, taylor or williams

haha another person who has kessler top You ask a question. Posters give their shot at answering. You ridicule them. What a pathetic move. Now you've heard multiple answers. How about you give us your top 10?

No specific order 1.Vernon Forrest 2.Sergio Martinez 3.Mikkel Kessler 4.Librado Andrade 5.Kelly Pavlik 6.Arthur Abraham 7.Carl Froch 8.Jermain Taylor 9.Lucian Bute 10.Paul Williams not a bad list

No specific order 1.Vernon Forrest 2.Sergio Martinez 3.Mikkel Kessler 4.Librado Andrade 5.Kelly Pavlik 6.Arthur Abraham 7.Carl Froch 8.Jermain Taylor 9.Lucian Bute 10.Paul Williams