Antonio Margarito has never cheated.

That gets me thinking. What about Mosley? So did he use Steroids his whole career? Hm? You cant simply stop doing steroids and still be good either. So is he still using them? hm? Its the same thing with Margarito. Mosley wasn't found of any illegal substances until that fight. Margarito wasn't found of the plaster until now. So is it that difficult to dismiss that Margarito could have possibly not use the plaster before? yes its difficult because the wraps WERE used before. they were old wraps with a blood stain on them NOT new fresh wraps from the night of the mosley fight

So apparently people here dont understand the situation of the NSAC and why they only gave him a 1 year suspension. Ok, listen carefully, let me take you through the steps and clear this thing up... 1. Lab results proved there was plaster in the wraps. 2. He never used them against Mosley. 3. There is no proof/evidence that he used it against anyone previous to it being found. 4. Thus he has never used it against anyone. So, where has he ever cheated? When, where, and how? Attempting to do something isn't doing it. I can attempt to walk across a street but if I dont go across I never did it. I can attempt to go from California to New York but if I dont walk, run, locomotive, automobile, fly my ass across the country, then I never did it. You understand the difference between "attempting" and "doing" now? Unless, Margarito himself comes out and says "yes, I used plaster in " then he has never used it before. That is terrible logic. Youre not from Alabama by chance are you?

threadstarter said there's no evidence that the wraps were ever used before so he never cheated lol. the blood stain IS the proof the wraps been used before therefore the wraps have been used before and he cheated against somebody.

well its like a crack dealer getting pulled over and getting caught with it. he didnt sell it to any1, he dont use it. but he goes to jail anyway.. get it

He was going to cheat. just as bad. What..you think he was going to wrap his hands and right before he he got in the ring he was going to take them out? Some people believe in god some don't....Most believe...Margarito has done this before,simply because he is a old timer hes not new to this sh*t. Why Mosley and know one else? because he got caught....He is a cheater. I hate to be the barer of bad news. That gets me thinking. What about Mosley? So did he use Steroids his whole career? Hm? You cant simply stop doing steroids and still be good either. So is he still using them? hm? Its the same thing with Margarito. Mosley wasn't found of any illegal substances until that fight. Margarito wasn't found of the plaster until now. So is it that difficult to dismiss that Margarito could have possibly not use the plaster before?

The act of putting plaster in the wraps is cheating

he could have used them for sparring nobody knows for sure and that could be why their was blood on them. which is pretty ****ed up on its own too... yeah its ****ed up especially because the blood stain was there the night of the cotto fight after the fight. so if it happened in sparring, it happened before the cotto fight, right?

Attempting to cheat, is cheating.

A wise man once said "You cant argue with dumb people.. they will bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience." let someone else explain it to you. I tried as hard as could, seriously. Would anyone be generous enough to explain it to him? I am in no way a Margarito fan. Im just going by what is fair and what isn't. As Hard as Could huh?..lol..WOW!.. anywho.. I'll say it again..you tryin to act like Johnnie Cochran is FAR too pathetic.."He never cheated because as far as WE know he never got the chance to use it".. Dude..seriously..Your point is what?..he got the 1 year..and to you that's fair..to most of us..that's weak..he WAS GOING TO go in to hurt a man with more than just his natural ability in the sport that's dangerous enough and one that most of us love!..we have the right along wit a lot of trainers, retired and active boxers etc to believe that he should be BANNED from the Sport.. I bet if someone plotted to shoot ur Mother and was caught wit the bullets in the gun on their way to you're moms house you'd want that piece of shit locked up for life..instead of giving him a lil 3 year unlawful use and possession of a deadly weapon charge..

So apparently people here dont understand the situation of the NSAC and why they only gave him a 1 year suspension. Ok, listen carefully, let me take you through the steps and clear this thing up... 1. Lab results proved there was plaster in the wraps. 2. He never used them against Mosley. 3. There is no proof/evidence that he used it against anyone previous to it being found. 4. Thus he has never used it against anyone. So, where has he ever cheated? When, where, and how? Attempting to do something isn't doing it. I can attempt to walk across a street but if I dont go across I never did it. I can attempt to go from California to New York but if I dont walk, run, locomotive, automobile, fly my ass across the country, then I never did it. You understand the difference between "attempting" and "doing" now? Unless, Margarito himself comes out and says "yes, I used plaster in " then he has never used it before. If you go into a home with the intent to commit burglary or another felony, but then change your mind and decide to leave, its still a felony. As soon as you step foot into a home or any structure, you have commited the felony, even if you dont steal anything.

why are people failing to understand that these wraps were not new, they were used. wether he used them vs cotto or not isn't 100 percent proven (even though most of us know he did) but we know they were used before, the blood stain is proof. so he has cheated before but we dont know 100 percent who he has cheated against. capetillo said that he always wraped margs hands the same and that the old gauzed blocks did not contain plaster. after the testing he was caught lying because the test proved they did contain plaster. he could have used them for sparring nobody knows for sure and that could be why their was blood on them. which is pretty ****ed up on its own too...

yea ive mentioned this a couple times. i understand the hate for margarito because what happened was pathetic and certainly causes u to lose a lot of respect for margarito myself included unless he seriously didnt know (which i admit is hard to believe because when you find plaster its obvious it was intentional on someones part). But the reason ive said he will get his license back in a year is because there is no proof he has ever actually used them in one of his fight. he was thankfully caught before the mosley fight, and in every other fight before that his wraps were cleared! So the 1 year suspension is just right it shouldnt be shorter nor longer!

why are people failing to understand that these wraps were not new, they were used. wether he used them vs cotto or not isn't 100 percent proven (even though most of us know he did) but we know they were used before, the blood stain is proof. so he has cheated before but we dont know 100 percent who he has cheated against. capetillo said that he always wraped margs hands the same and that the old gauzed blocks did not contain plaster. after the testing he was caught lying because the test proved they did contain plaster.

well F l i c k e r does have a point :/ but let me jsut say 1 word.... KARMA.... am mexican and i do think he did use plaster in his previous bouts...... sad thing...

This is just semantics. Some people go wayy too far condemning him. Some people go too far trying to excuse him on legal technicalities. Both are ridiculous. He attempted to cheat with plaster of paris. Only reason he didn't is because he got caught. That is disgraceful. There is no counter argument. He does not deserve to be banned for life is all I'm saying.

He loaded his wraps for the purpose of doing something disgraceful. This is just semantics. Some people go wayy too far condemning him. Some people go too far trying to excuse him on legal technicalities. Both are ridiculous. He attempted to cheat with plaster of paris. Only reason he didn't is because he got caught. That is disgraceful. There is no counter argument.

The shit was ALREADY IN HIS WRAP!!..it WASN'T caught right BEFORE it was going in..or on the floor next to Capetillo's foot when Margarito's hands were done.. Margarito having them in his WRAP already was more than "Attempt" it was on the verge of being DONE.. and to those simple minded who believe it was his first time..and want to call it "speculations" and "assumptions" it's kinda funny how COMMON SENSE doesn't kick in... A wise man once said "You cant argue with dumb people.. they will bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience." let someone else explain it to you. I tried as hard as could, seriously. Would anyone be generous enough to explain it to him? I am in no way a Margarito fan. Im just going by what is fair and what isn't. Well to you but since the guy lied on it on tv and denied it . Then had the nerve to lie about it again saying he didnt kno only a dumb ass believes this was his first time. Come on alot of people saw cotto beat mosley and mosley have a hard time with mayorga. also he was already talking about his remtach with cotto sort off writing off mosley already seeing the decline in him. So why wouldnt he have used them with the man who beat mosley whos undefeated the biggest payday of his career and biggest fight of his career. Why wouldnt he? Seeing how mosley looked bad against mayorga and everything why did he use it just on shane? For me he attempted to use it and hurt cotto and johnson in my opinion with it. All speculation. I dont put it pass him that he might have used it. However we cant say he did and just completely try to remove him from boxing. That is why we have the US judicial system. Innocent till proven guilty. So another witch hunt of Salem doesn't happen again. We can also assume that Cotto just has problems with tall, weird-sluggers, with great chins. It was his first loss and who else has he fought that is similar to Margarito? I hear ya. But to me it's just as bad man. He didn't just have a change of heart. He got caught. If he didn't get caught he would have went through with it. Lifetime ban, it's debatable. But what he did is disgraceful. I agree with you. Its bad that he even attempted it but its not worth banning him for. If he actually used it, and we have proof of him using it against people in the past. Then im all for his ban but we dont so banning him is excessive.

No. He loaded his wraps. He did do that. That's disgraceful. He loaded his wraps for the purpose of doing something disgraceful.

A Lifetime ban is retarded and ridiculous. What he ATTEMPTED to do is disgraceful, but he didn't do anything disgraceful. You know better. No. He loaded his wraps. He did do that. That's disgraceful.

I hear ya. But to me it's just as bad man. He didn't just have a change of heart. He got caught. If he didn't get caught he would have went through with it. Lifetime ban, it's debatable. But what he did is disgraceful. A Lifetime ban is retarded and ridiculous. What he ATTEMPTED to do is disgraceful, but he didn't do anything disgraceful. You know better.