Vinny Pazienza

The guy belongs in the HOF... that's about it..

Bat, The interviews leading up to those 3 fights had some of the funniest lines and cuts I ever heard from fighters. They sounded like WWF (WWE) wrestlers building the gate, only they were serious! Something else comes to mind when i think of their trilogy....the camera kept panning back inside some bar where Haugen's mom and sisters were smoking cigarettes and drinking bottles of beer. When the decion went against Haugen, all those women were booing, shooting the middle finger at the TV screen, yelling, etc. Not a real classy moment! Just as animated as Frank "The Animal" Fletcher's mom was back in the day on NBC Sport's world. :) Both where good talkers, but Haugen was great. He was the Ali of the lightweights when it came to talking. He was pretty darn entertaining.

Pazmania is a for sue HOFer and borderline All-Time great IMO. Paz was an exciting fighter that gave it his all every fight and he was a cocky as they come without being completely disrespectful as so many boxers unfortunately are...

If you have it in digital form, would an upload be a possibility? Sure. .

I think I'll have to take a look at this fight. I just found out that I have it. :thinking: If you have it in digital form, would an upload be a possibility?

yeah.........

"How crazy and ironic life is," Pazienza remarked. "When I was an amateur fighter, the Duvas took me to Madison Square Garden to watch Roberto Duran fight Davey Moore. So I was sitting there watching, thinking look at this this guy he's awesome, he's an animal. And who would have thought in a million years that I would end up fighting Roberto Duran twice? When I fought Duran, I beat him twice but I don't even count that. It doesn't count because he was like 90 when we fought! He was older than he is now (laughs)." "That was my greatest night," Vinny told Setanta when speaking about the win over Dele. "I knew to win I had to box. And in the end I knew I was the puncher and I was stopping him." I think I'll have to take a look at this fight. I just found out that I have it. :thinking:

Top 25, easily. honestly, Pazienza was a pretty good fighter, and fairly underrated. his first two fights with Haugen were real entertaining, although I had Haugen winning both, and his win over Gilbert Dele was surprisingly impressive, considering what he had to go through and how good Dele was

Yes, I sparred with Vinny for many fights including the Dele fight and, YES, he definitely looked VERY good that night...it sucks that people only remember Paz as a face first type of guy because he boxed very well sometimes...the Dele fight was a very special display of boxing..I was there that night and the crowd was ELECTRIC...rarely do u see a crowd go crazy for a BOXING match but they did that night...

Damn, Manchine. You took kev's thread pretty hard (no homo) It's nothing I haven't heard a thousand times before on these forums. I just found this very funny: WHO HAS NOT BEATEN DURAN..THIS N!GGA LOST TO VINNY PAZIENZA. :lol1:

Well I remember the Haugen fights best. The first 2 were instant classics. The third was a bore with paz on his bike. Anyway his face tells the story of that crowdpleasing style. It looks like an old worn-out football. Bat, The interviews leading up to those 3 fights had some of the funniest lines and cuts I ever heard from fighters. They sounded like WWF (WWE) wrestlers building the gate, only they were serious! Something else comes to mind when i think of their trilogy....the camera kept panning back inside some bar where Haugen's mom and sisters were smoking cigarettes and drinking bottles of beer. When the decion went against Haugen, all those women were booing, shooting the middle finger at the TV screen, yelling, etc. Not a real classy moment! Just as animated as Frank "The Animal" Fletcher's mom was back in the day on NBC Sport's world. :)

Anybody who says that Vinnie Pazienza is a top 50 fighter needs to leave this site. And have his head examined. Effin' top 50...sheesh. I agree. I don't think that you can really come up with 40 other boxers that would keep the Pazmanian Devil out of the Top 10. :boxing: But really, I always like the Pazman, although I only saw the Haugen fights, and a few others that I can't really remember when I was younger.

Well I remember the Haugen fights best. The first 2 were instant classics. The third was a bore with paz on his bike. Anyway his face tells the story of that crowdpleasing style. It looks like an old worn-out football. Unfortunately I remember his losses more so than his wins. Roger Mayweather looked better than Floyd Mayweather Jr ever did the night he fought Pazienza. Roy Jones' win over Pazienza is said to have been his best ever performance but what can you except when the number 1 p4p ranked super middleweight fights a former lightweight title holder... Pazienza got the fight for beating a near 45 year old Duran (and was knocked down in the process). Duran said he would be insane to fight Roy Jones.

I wasn't really arguing seriously with fulcrum. I doubt he takes what he says about Vitali as seriously as Wlad Owns does for example. Just thought I would point out a couple of things, such as Shavers having a greater KO% than Vitali at his peak. I'll give Pazienza credit. He was a warrior and he could make other boxers look like a million bucks with his face first style (for example Roger Mayweather, Hector Camacho, Roy Jones). :lol1: From what I've heard he had some skill of his own too but abandoned it for a more crowd-pleasing style. Well I remember the Haugen fights best. The first 2 were instant classics. The third was a bore with paz on his bike. Anyway his face tells the story of that crowdpleasing style. It looks like an old worn-out football.

Thanks for saying. After I voted in the poll I saw that you had him as a top 25 ATG. I thought you had either a very soft spot for the pazman or gone completely bonkus from your failed attempts at educating fulcrum. :lol1::lol1: I wasn't really arguing seriously with fulcrum. I doubt he takes what he says about Vitali as seriously as Wlad Owns does for example. Just thought I would point out a couple of things, such as Shavers having a greater KO% than Vitali at his peak. I'll give Pazienza credit. He was a warrior and he could make other boxers look like a million bucks with his face first style (for example Roger Mayweather, Hector Camacho, Roy Jones). :lol1: From what I've heard he had some skill of his own too but abandoned it for a more crowd-pleasing style.

I've heard that Pazienza looked great against Gilbert Dele (when he won the LMW title) although I've never actually seen the fight. I believe it was John Scully who said it. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3685294 This thread is a bit of a joke since some poster tried to argue that Roberto Duran was a "bum" for losing to "Vinny f***in' Pazienza". :lol1: Thanks for saying. After I voted in the poll I saw that you had him as a top 25 ATG. I thought you had either a very soft spot for the pazman or gone completely bonkus from your failed attempts at educating fulcrum. :lol1::lol1:

I didn't think much of Paz TBH. I think his biggest acheivement was coming back from a major injury (wasn't it a broken back?) and have some succes. His battles with Haugen are legendary. They hated each others guts. Still I never like Paz' style and I think he stunk the place out skillswise. But he was a couragerous fighter and he just might make it to the HOF. I've heard that Pazienza looked great against Gilbert Dele (when he won the LMW title) although I've never actually seen the fight. I believe it was John Scully who said it. 7. Vinny Pazienza-Gilbert Dele, WBA 154 pound title fight: In 1991 I sparred for the first time with Vinny Pazienza. I had a fight coming up against Randy Smith, a ten rounder at the "Big E" in Massachusetts in September and Paz had his WBA title try scheduled for a few days later with Gilbert Dele at the Providence Civic Center. Now, I believe that when many people think of Vinny as a boxer they think of a blood and guts brawler that gets cut a lot and usually has to fight through a lot of blood and punches to the head to win fights. Of course, Vinny is not above going that route if that's what it takes to get the best results but from sparring so many rounds with him, sometimes twelve at a time, I knew that when he decided to stick and move and be elusive he certainly had the ability to do that in good fashion. The man could BOX when he had to. His first two fights up to that point with Greg Haugen, though, were what most people remembered him for. All out wars! However, if you pop in a tape of his 1991 WBA title wining fight with Dele I think you will come away with a new respect for the guy and his boxing skills. I was there ringside and I remember at the time thinking how much his performance that night reminded me of the job Sugar Ray Leonard did against Marvin Hagler. It's usually the Mickey Ward-Arturo Gatti type wars that get the crowd deeply and loudly into fights but that night, with Vinny Paz showing off his elusive boxing skills (moving side to side with his hands low, shucking and jiving, shakin' and bakin'), the crowd was going crazy. Seeing Vinny make this guy miss three or four punches in a row brought as much cheering as Vinny landing three punches did and when it was stopped in the twelfth round Vinny was way ahead on the scorecards in a fight that I consider one of the best exhibitions of BOXING that I have ever seen. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3685294 This thread is a bit of a joke since some poster tried to argue that Roberto Duran was a "bum" for losing to "Vinny f***in' Pazienza". :lol1:

whats with the roberto duran bum comment? You had to see the topic from yesterday. But in all seriousness Vinny is better then Duran. He did beat him after all. Berbick is better then Ali as well. Plain and basic common sense.

I didn't think much of Paz TBH. I think his biggest acheivement was coming back from a major injury (wasn't it a broken back?) and have some succes. His battles with Haugen are legendary. They hated each others guts. Still I never like Paz' style and I think he stunk the place out skillswise. But he was a couragerous fighter and he just might make it to the HOF.

whats with the roberto duran bum comment? Apparently Roberto Duran is a bum because he lost to Vinny Pazienza.