mayweather padwork

A training method??? Really?? That's crazy. Imagine using a training method in the lead up to a fight. Wow. I was originally just commenting on was looks like improved speed by hatton is all. But thanks for your wisdom. I was actually agreeing with you. I was defending Mayweathers training with the mitts....... okay...its off to " learn how to be a trainer 101" for you then. your minimizing of padwork is fairly alarming. please answer true or false to each statement. 1. focus pads are an invaluable tool for teaching beginners correct punching technique, defensive manuvores, footwork and distancing, counterpunching etc... 2. there is no need to teach beginners these things as (your words) "nothing will substitute sparring or actual fighting...nothing"... therefore students will learn to box faster by getting straight into sparring. as pads are useless. You love to argue in circles don't you? Don't try and take my argument now. I was merely stating how him doing this isn't a DETRIMENT to the training of young fighters. Now you want to take the stance as to how important the mitts are.....hahahaha you are funny. I have held more mitts and hit more mitts than you have seen on tv. Don't change the argument, you said it was a detriment for young fighters to take this style on the mitts on and I disagreed with you. The mitts are very important but they WILL NEVER REPLACE SPARRING OR ACTUAL FIGHTING. So if you see a guy doing a shoe shine routine on the mitts, it doesn't necessarily mean he will go into the ring and do the same exact thing, that's idiotic even contemplating that. I see nothing wrong with what Mayweather does as far as his mitts routine. Many trainers, including myslef, use different methods to teach different things. I know for a fact that Roger Mayweather uses this technique to teach young fighters, hand eye coordnation, defense and speed. I have seen him do it many times with fighters as young as 14-15 yrs old.

My God, you are looking WAYYYYY too much into this. My point is that, I see nothing wrong in what he's doing or people trying to emulate it. I don't use that style when I train my fighters, I have my own methods on the mitts. For the record, there are so many different styles of training, there isn't one "right" way, to think that is egotistical and ignorant. I have seen some coaches not use hard punches to the heavy bag at all, I have seen some use nothing but power training. I think the key to being a good coach is understanding your fighters strengths and weaknesses and working from there. I have been involved in boxing since I was 13, I'm 35 now, don't " " me as if I don't know what I'm talking about. To think one thing can be either good or bad for every fighter shows you know very little of the sport. It's not a training method I use but I don't see the detriment that you are talking about at all because like I said, sparring and fighting will never be replaced. Things you do in the gym don't necessarily translate literally into the ring. As far as Mayweather's brittle hands, maybe that is something he developed but it's also something that can be used to develop hand eye coordination among younger fighters that are lacking that. okay...its off to " learn how to be a trainer 101" for you then. your minimizing of padwork is fairly alarming. please answer true or false to each statement. 1. focus pads are an invaluable tool for teaching beginners correct punching technique, defensive manuvores, footwork and distancing, counterpunching etc... 2. there is no need to teach beginners these things as (your words) "nothing will substitute sparring or actual fighting...nothing"... therefore students will learn to box faster by getting straight into sparring. as pads are useless.

It's just a training method, that's all. It's like Marquez hits a tractor tire with a sledge hammer, DLH cuts wood with an axe, trainers have different methods. It's not big deal. A training method??? Really?? That's crazy. Imagine using a training method in the lead up to a fight. Wow. I was originally just commenting on was looks like improved speed by hatton is all. But thanks for your wisdom.

???? No he wasn't. He does that when he is on the heavy bag, but definately not on the focus pads. It's just a training method, that's all. It's like Marquez hits a tractor tire with a sledge hammer, DLH cuts wood with an axe, trainers have different methods. It's not big deal.

he looked like a idiot doing it indeed. Screaming and shit. ???? No he wasn't. He does that when he is on the heavy bag, but definately not on the focus pads.

Mayweather has got Hatton doing it, and to be honest, Hatton looked rapid with it! he looked like a idiot doing it indeed. Screaming and shit.

Mayweather has got Hatton doing it, and to be honest, Hatton looked rapid with it!

i'll assume then that you are a proponent of the style and have swallowed it hook line and sinker. my theory is that floyds hands are so brittle and worn out that it prevents him from hitting focus pads and the heavy bag in anger. you'll never see him load his shots in any of his training videos. we saw signs of his bad hands as far back as 2001 against carlos hernandez where he took a knee after hurting his hand on the top of carlos's head. ....so then it would follow that training would be modified to avoid any chance of ruining his million $$$ prize possessions ay? hence the very distinctive style of the mayweather routine. its almost amusing that 'trainers' like yourself have subscribed to the new religion ignorant of its real origins. why do you assume that the mitt work began with floyd jr?

i'll assume then that you are a proponent of the style and have swallowed it hook line and sinker. my theory is that floyds hands are so brittle and worn out that it prevents him from hitting focus pads and the heavy bag in anger. you'll never see him load his shots in any of his training videos. we saw signs of his bad hands as far back as 2001 against carlos hernandez where he took a knee after hurting his hand on the top of carlos's head. ....so then it would follow that training would be modified to avoid any chance of ruining his million $$$ prize possessions ay? hence the very distinctive style of the mayweather routine. its almost amusing that 'trainers' like yourself have subscribed to the new religion ignorant of its real origins. My God, you are looking WAYYYYY too much into this. My point is that, I see nothing wrong in what he's doing or people trying to emulate it. I don't use that style when I train my fighters, I have my own methods on the mitts. For the record, there are so many different styles of training, there isn't one "right" way, to think that is egotistical and ignorant. I have seen some coaches not use hard punches to the heavy bag at all, I have seen some use nothing but power training. I think the key to being a good coach is understanding your fighters strengths and weaknesses and working from there. I have been involved in boxing since I was 13, I'm 35 now, don't " " me as if I don't know what I'm talking about. To think one thing can be either good or bad for every fighter shows you know very little of the sport. It's not a training method I use but I don't see the detriment that you are talking about at all because like I said, sparring and fighting will never be replaced. Things you do in the gym don't necessarily translate literally into the ring. As far as Mayweather's brittle hands, maybe that is something he developed but it's also something that can be used to develop hand eye coordination among younger fighters that are lacking that.

Well im not a trainer or boxer, but clearly it can't be very bad for him considering that he got to P4P No. 1 using that method.

sorry if its already been done...but i'm seeing it everywhere! people imitating the mayweather focus pad routines. i think its detrimental to teach ESPECIALLY to beginners simply because you will NEVER EVER fight that way unless its with your lil sister. the routine lacks power shots, full extension, spontaneity and is unrealistic in its 8 punch counter combos! floyd can get away with it cause he mastered his basics all them years ago...also by his own admission his hands are f'd. i think its a fad and people who dont know jack will try and imitate it. agree completly fighters like calzaghe and mayweather have found ways of training that overcome their brittle hands the danger comes when others think that this is a good way to train. The likes of floyd and calzaghe learned the basics before doing this and thats where every young boxer should start

I dissagree, I'm a trainer and I see nothing wrong with this because mitt work isn't just to simulate fighting or sparring. Mitt work is also good for reflexes, hand eye coordination etc. Nothing will substitute sparring or actual fighting...nothing. The mitt work Mayweather does is more to increase speed and allow you to understand what counters what. He teaches you that a stright right counters a straight right, a hook a hook and an uppercut a body shot from the same side etc. It also helps immensly in defensive drills that are mostly reactionary. I don't think you quite understand what mitt work is all about.... i'll assume then that you are a proponent of the style and have swallowed it hook line and sinker. my theory is that floyds hands are so brittle and worn out that it prevents him from hitting focus pads and the heavy bag in anger. you'll never see him load his shots in any of his training videos. we saw signs of his bad hands as far back as 2001 against carlos hernandez where he took a knee after hurting his hand on the top of carlos's head. ....so then it would follow that training would be modified to avoid any chance of ruining his million $$$ prize possessions ay? hence the very distinctive style of the mayweather routine. its almost amusing that 'trainers' like yourself have subscribed to the new religion ignorant of its real origins.

sorry if its already been done...but i'm seeing it everywhere! people imitating the mayweather focus pad routines. i think its detrimental to teach ESPECIALLY to beginners simply because you will NEVER EVER fight that way unless its with your lil sister. the routine lacks power shots, full extension, spontaneity and is unrealistic in its 8 punch counter combos! floyd can get away with it cause he mastered his basics all them years ago...also by his own admission his hands are f'd. i think its a fad and people who dont know jack will try and imitate it. I dissagree, I'm a trainer and I see nothing wrong with this because mitt work isn't just to simulate fighting or sparring. Mitt work is also good for reflexes, hand eye coordination etc. Nothing will substitute sparring or actual fighting...nothing. The mitt work Mayweather does is more to increase speed and allow you to understand what counters what. He teaches you that a stright right counters a straight right, a hook a hook and an uppercut a body shot from the same side etc. It also helps immensly in defensive drills that are mostly reactionary. I don't think you quite understand what mitt work is all about....

the and 1 of pad work? uhhh say what?...

the and 1 of pad work?