He would not have gotten pummeled by Margarito!Stop complaining about your loss and get back in the gym. Margarito would still hand you your ass in a rematch!!
Stop makling this into a racial thing! You know your boy got his ass handed to him. there is no denying it
you know your boy got his ass back to 147 thanks to daniel (3rd father) santos.
Now that is true, but its not just how you feel if and when the guy gets caught. Its the fact, that you got beaten up by a cheater, and he actually used illegal gloves !! That must hurt, both inside and out the ring...
Most members don't bring this up, but I've been watching fairly closey.
Both Miguel and Margarito are superstars are from Solo Boxeo Tecate
and Miguel Cotto GAVE Margarito a chance because at that time he was complaining no one would fight him blah blah.
If it wasn't for that defeat Margarito would of never had that ESPN article saying he'd KO Wilfred Benitez nor ever be on a pound for pound list, which everybody had him on !!
So, complain away...Im not a big fan of Cotto, but I got a chance to complain. So, I took it, months before he was caught with illegal gloves, maybe years!
And softies think Im racist, or what not. :D
Im still mad about that:fu2:
you can't prove that margo used plaster against cotto, although it is highly probable that he did.
Thats what I keep telling these guys. they are making accusattions base on assumptions. If I were cotto I would rematch Marg in Mexico to prove I can beat him.
nutthugger???im a diehard floyd fan not cotto..just telling it like it is
If floyd was mexican you wouldn't even like him. I don't ever see you talking about anything else other than floyd or margarito hate.
lets spar please lets spar...i get to load my gloves.......... and let me see how good your defense is...i bet i fukk you up
plaster is one tricky thing to defend against.
you can't prove that margo used plaster against cotto, although it is highly probable that he did.
You're a moron, the dude had plaster in his hands and that gives you more weight in your hands meaning you can punch right through peoples defense. Plus theres talented strong boxers like Povetkin who have punched right through peoples defenses like he did to eddie chambers and other opponents povetkin has fought. Defense gets you only so far when the guy standing infront of you is a bad ass and will hit you so damn hard that he gets right through that defense.
You making accusations you can't prove. Plaster or no plaster he would have gotten a beat down.
He would not have gotten pummeled by Margarito!Stop complaining about your loss and get back in the gym. Margarito would still hand you your ass in a rematch!!
You're a moron, the dude had plaster in his hands and that gives you more weight in your hands meaning you can punch right through peoples defense. Plus theres talented strong boxers like Povetkin who have punched right through peoples defenses like he did to eddie chambers and other opponents povetkin has fought. Defense gets you only so far when the guy standing infront of you is a bad ass and will hit you so damn hard that he gets right through that defense.
ur boy is marg is done let that be. getting hit on the arms, gloves takes a toll especially if theres something in the opponents glove, and every boxer has a weakness defense is not cottos every1 knows his stamina is suspect.. plaster+stamina issue=destruction
Their you go makin assumptions about that fight.Cotto has been wobbled b4 so dont act like this is the first time. lack of stamina+ weak defense+wrong fight plan = The results of the fight.Nuff Said
ur boy is marg is done let that be. getting hit on the arms, gloves takes a toll especially if theres something in the opponents glove, and every boxer has a weakness defense is not cottos every1 knows his stamina is suspect.. plaster+stamina issue=destruction
When you have someone with an "granite-chin" (well not anymore) and you add loaded-gloves into the mix. It just spells disaster.
Im not sure what kind of defense/gameplan you could have against that. Especially against someone who throws over a 100 punches a round.You cant be evasive and move around all night cuz your gonna have to engage at some point. And all that moving will wear you out. Not to mention being hit with loaded gloves like that will wear you down even quicker.
Now that is true, but its not just how you feel if and when the guy gets caught. Its the fact, that you got beaten up by a cheater, and he actually used illegal gloves !! That must hurt, both inside and out the ring...
Most members don't bring this up, but I've been watching fairly closey.
Both Miguel and Margarito are superstars are from Solo Boxeo Tecate
and Miguel Cotto GAVE Margarito a chance because at that time he was complaining no one would fight him blah blah.
If it wasn't for that defeat Margarito would of never had that ESPN articile saying he'd KO Wilfred Benitez nor ever be on a pound for pound list, which everybody had him on !!
So, complain away...Im not a big fan of Cotto, but I got a chance to complain. So, I took it, months before he was caught with illegal gloves, maybe years!
And softies think Im racist, or what not. :D
your a racist!LOL
Such a good point. Regardless of what Margarito had in his gloves, Cotto still got hit by a slow as shit, predictable, come forward fighter
I agree that Cotto's gameplan sucked and he fought the wrong fight, regardless.
But assuming Tony used Plaster, you don't think that made a difference in his condition and ability to move and dodge going down the stretch?
It definitely made a difference. But I do agree he was fighting the wrong fight from the opening bell.
I'am just trying to make sense of the cott fight accusations!
Fair enough...You're right there is no solid evidence on that fight, but one could just imagine...Why would he just try to do with Shane instead of doing it for the Cotto fight (which was Margorito's biggest fight up to date)
I try to be fair and look at it from both sides....There is no proof as you've stated but its doesnt rule out that Margorito didnt do it either...I understand where you're coming from though.
I agree with you completely! No one should be allowed to cheat! but no one has proven that he cheated in the cotto fight! Cotto is just trying to salvage a loss. How would it sound if DLH said he wanted the loss overturned to SSM for steriods??
I'm a HUGE Cotto fan..and at first I did say he should get that overturned..but now it doesn't matter..I say keep that 1L..You're absolutely right..unless Margarito admits to shit..there will possibly never be proof..so I decided to let it go..
Now Cotto isn't trying to salvage shit..you don't know how he felt..he claims he's never felt that beat up..do you have this PROOF that he didn't?..what does he gain from salvaging this loss?..he's in talks with a Pacquiao, Hatton, and a rematch with Mosley..he's back on track..Cotto is a fair and Classy dude..and believes in all FAIRNESS..and is entitled to his opinion..
How would you feel if you got whooped in the ring like never before in 32 previous fights and in the next fight the dude gets caught with plaster of paris in his wraps?..Be Honest!..Cotto has been alot more humble than the regular person..like Cintron for instance who cried about robbery as soon as he found out about Margarito's Wraps..and had the audacity to bring up "Respect"..lmao!..Cotto wants shit to be fair all across the board and I agree!
I agree that it's important, but it'd be one thing if people were talking sense. If these threads were filled with knowledgeable posts with people actually making good points.
Most of them just turn into petty ass fights and nothing gets resolved so it's like what's the point? You get a Margarito fan being like "oh it's not proven that it happened in the Cotto fight" and than a Cotto fan freaking out over him for it. And it happens in EVERY thread, you don't find that annoying?
If people don't get into petty arguments that clutter every thread I wouldn't care. But that's been proven pretty much impossible on NSB.
And Savor..trust me bro..I agree 100%..but that's what makes NSB what NSB is today..IDK if it was different before..but it's been this way since I got here and it's funny and keeps me comin back to see these losers Malcolm. and the other clowns and alts make stupid comments exposing their lack of knowledge about the sport..
But at the same time...what you and Mangler attempt won't work and will only make them go harder on stupidity..and I just wanted to say how I notice it in every "plaster" thread..lol..
When the ingredients that make plaster of Paris are found in your gloves and you're banned for a year every you do is in question.
Having Plaster banging against a earmuff defense for 10 rounds is going to screw someone up.
Dude was that same substance found in the cotto fight??