Oscar wasn't shot or weight drained against Pacquiao.

Oscar looked very drained against Pacquiao.

because hes the reincarnation of bruce lee and he knows karate.. and thats an unfair advantage... thats why :p http://mike.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/bruce-lee.jpg http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7443/26044313019318ljt7.jpg His feet are actually faster than his hands cuz if you super slow mo his fights you will notice blurs coming from the ground to the opponents head and body. You will notice the blurs look as if they have a nike swoosh on it. haha!

I'm just waitin on the Ricky Hatton fight before I come to any conclusions about how "lucky" Manny was... You could be right but if Manny destroys Ricky like he did Oscar or Diaz, which I don't think will happen, cuz I think the fight will be closer than most think... Then, I will delve into the idea that maybe Manny is truly the best fighter in the world... It speaks volumes about your boy Marquez as well as both, I think are on even ground in being the best fighters in the world. Yea, if Manny beats Hatton in a similar vein to how he beat Diaz and ODLH then there will be no excuses, especially not from me. I always accept a genuinely good win and respect the fighter who achieves it, no matter who it is.

You can't deny that there is some substance to the Marquez, Diaz and ODLH excuses. I have no problem with Pacquiao winning all these fights. I do, however, have a problem with Pac nuthuggers claiming that he won simply because he was "too good" whilst ignoring the fact that his opponents, especially in the case of Diaz and ODLH were not of a good condition/standard. Marquez who is of the highest standard put Pac through hell and could arguably have won the second fight - not saying he did, but it could be argued. I'm just waitin on the Ricky Hatton fight before I come to any conclusions about how "lucky" Manny was... You could be right but if Manny destroys Ricky like he did Oscar or Diaz, which I don't think will happen, cuz I think the fight will be closer than most think... Then, I will delve into the idea that maybe Manny is truly the best fighter in the world... It speaks volumes about your boy Marquez as well as both, I think are on even ground in being the best fighters in the world.

You gotta be... Peep the list of excuses: Barrera vs. Pac I - Started out as fires, distractions. Then years later it became past his prime. DLH was lb for lb no 3 Barrera vs. Pac II - Past his prime againts Pac but he gave Marquez a scrap and all praise was given to Marquez. Marquez vs. Pac I - Marquez was robbed Marquez vs. Pac II - Marquez was robbed Morales vs. Pac III - Shot, Weight drained Morales vs. Pac II - Past prime, Weight drained Pacquiao vs. Diaz - Diaz is a bum Pacquiao vs. DLH - Shot, weight drained That is an excuse with every Mexican Pac fought.. You must be an idiot to believe the Mexicans who cry wolf all the time.. Pac beats another Mexican there will be another excuse and on and on and on and on... You just can't buy into it. You can't deny that there is some substance to the Marquez, Diaz and ODLH excuses. I have no problem with Pacquiao winning all these fights. I do, however, have a problem with Pac nuthuggers claiming that he won simply because he was "too good" whilst ignoring the fact that his opponents, especially in the case of Diaz and ODLH were not of a good condition/standard. Marquez who is of the highest standard put Pac through hell and could arguably have won the second fight - not saying he did, but it could be argued.

hahahahaha!!! or the bad socks excuse... Mexicans aint the only ones but dang, its like everyone pac has beat has an excuse... It took me awhile to give Morales his props for beating pac the first time around but I eventually came around to it... Why don't some just come around and give Manny his? because hes the reincarnation of bruce lee and he knows karate.. and thats an unfair advantage... thats why :p http://mike.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/bruce-lee.jpg http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7443/26044313019318ljt7.jpg

did you just call Jching an idiot? if so, stop stealing my would-be posts Very funny. Don't know how im being an idiot claiming ODLH was weight drained and dehydrated against Pac when there is enough evidence to suggest that was the case. Oh yea, I forgot, it's cause it doesn't involve me ignoring facts and claiming Pac won soo convinsingly because he was "too good" against a 36 year old, past prime, shot, weight drained Oscar and generally praising Pacquiao non stop.

Seems like you're forgetting a fight and the excuse that came along with it. Morales Pacquiao I. "I didn't have Cleto Reyes gloves". hahahahaha!!! or the bad socks excuse... Mexicans aint the only ones but dang, its like everyone pac has beat has an excuse... It took me awhile to give Morales his props for beating pac the first time around but I eventually came around to it... Why don't some just come around and give Manny his?

You gotta be... Peep the list of excuses: Barrera vs. Pac I - Started out as fires, distractions. Then years later it became past his prime. DLH was lb for lb no 3 Barrera vs. Pac II - Past his prime againts Pac but he gave Marquez a scrap and all praise was given to Marquez. Marquez vs. Pac I - Marquez was robbed Marquez vs. Pac II - Marquez was robbed Morales vs. Pac III - Shot, Weight drained Morales vs. Pac II - Past prime, Weight drained Pacquiao vs. Diaz - Diaz is a bum Pacquiao vs. DLH - Shot, weight drained That is an excuse with every Mexican Pac fought.. You must be an idiot to believe the Mexicans who cry wolf all the time.. Pac beats another Mexican there will be another excuse and on and on and on and on... You just can't buy into it. Seems like you're forgetting a fight and the excuse that came along with it. Morales Pacquiao I. "I didn't have Cleto Reyes gloves".

It was a combination of both.

did you just call Jching an idiot? if so, stop stealing my would-be posts You gotta be... Peep the list of excuses: Barrera vs. Pac I - Started out as fires, distractions. Then years later it became past his prime. DLH was lb for lb no 3 Barrera vs. Pac II - Past his prime againts Pac but he gave Marquez a scrap and all praise was given to Marquez. Marquez vs. Pac I - Marquez was robbed Marquez vs. Pac II - Marquez was robbed Morales vs. Pac III - Shot, Weight drained Morales vs. Pac II - Past prime, Weight drained Pacquiao vs. Diaz - Diaz is a bum Pacquiao vs. DLH - Shot, weight drained That is an excuse with every Mexican Pac fought.. You must be an idiot to believe the Mexicans who cry wolf all the time.. Pac beats another Mexican there will be another excuse and on and on and on and on... You just can't buy into it.

pacquiao hadn't box at 147 for over........... never Aint that the truth! hahahahaha!

Since when is Manny elusive?? Are you joking? You can't miss that mofo..lol Hatton would not have been discourage by that half-hearted attack Oscar airmailed agaisnt Manny. Oscar would not have been able to keep Hatton off him or elude that trademark shot-gun jab and body attack. Well Pacquiao kept moving against Dela Hoya. He was punching then moved. I didn't say Pac was elusive in his career, just against Oscar.

I don't want to hear any excuse bullshit. I just watched that fight. That was all Pac. BRING ON RICKY!!!! you sir are a grade A moron how could you see the fight with Pac cum on your eye. anybody who states that there was nothing worng with Oscar that night shouldt be wacthing boxing . it just shows who the cock sucking nuthuggers are first 2 rounds told the outcome of the fight it is not normal to gain 2 or 1 pound at fight night, any real boxing fan who has wacth Oscar over the years knew that there was somthing worng.

Talk to you later, got to talk a shower then head to a chinese buffet in Alhambra.

You can't deny it was different a OSCAR. Oscar was a Champion at a comfortable weight when Floyd fought him. He added 15lbs and came in heavier than Mayweather. Contrast that to his preperation..or lack thereof..for Pacman. Oscar only gained back a pound and had a JOKE of a training camp. Mayweather had a lot more to deal with than Paquiou. Well blame Oscar for that. I am not saying Oscar is still in his prime. But Mayweather just stays in one place and goes on defensive, then counterpunch. Pac goes forward.

Hatton is fast too.. Manny is far from the only guy that would have stopped Oscar that night. He was there for the taking. Oscar looked far worse than he did against Forbes..and that's saying a lot. But diffirent styles of fighting. Can Hatton be elusive like Pac? I believed he can but in the end will fight the way he always use too, going forward and fighting inside. And even against Malinagi, even though he improved, he was still getting hit.

He wasn't the same Oscar, there was something wrong... whether it was weight drained or shot, or both... however De La Hoya hadn't fought at that weight for many years. Don't get me wrong I take nothing away from Pacquiao and am not making excuses, it was a great victory for him... but it just wasn't the same Oscar. Oscar is not the same fighter as he use to be. But did it affect his mentality too in a way that his mind was saying don't throw punches. I mean your a boxer, in your head, you should be thinking "i need throw punches". Look at Erik Morales, even though it was only 3 rounds, he was throwing and lnading punches. Even Foreman at 40 something years old, he was throwing punches and landed a KO. In that figh, Pac's speed and elusiveness might have gotten into Oscars head.

He came into the fight weighing 143.... he was drained and dehydreded..

I don't want to hear any excuse bullshit. I just watched that fight. That was all Pac. BRING ON RICKY!!!! He wasn't the same Oscar, there was something wrong... whether it was weight drained or shot, or both... however De La Hoya hadn't fought at that weight for many years. Don't get me wrong I take nothing away from Pacquiao and am not making excuses, it was a great victory for him... but it just wasn't the same Oscar.