Would Ricky Hatton go above Calzaghe as an ATG British great, if he beat Pac?
Hatton
Pacquiao
Tszyu
Castillo
Collazo
Urango
Malignaggi
Maussa
Tackie
Phillips
Magee
Pendleton
Lazcano
Thaxton
Joe Calzaghe
Hopkins
Kessler
Eubank
Jones
Woodhall
Ried
Mitchell
Brewer
Lacy
Sheika
Bika
Veit
Starie
ricky's already above him.
ricky fought 2 #1 p4p fighters in their prime and beat a #3 p4p fighter , a bit past prime in kostya.
he also beat castillo who was a former top 10 p4p fighter. people don't want to count it but castillo had more left than jones did when calzaghe fought him. castillo was certainly no worse than eubank when calzaghe fought him.
pacquiao , mayweather , kostya , castillo > hopkins , kessler , eubank , jones
That's what concerns me about the Pacman fight.
Pacman could just copy and paste Magee's fight plan and practically punch Ricky Hatton's face off. Though it certainly wouldn't be a natural thing for him to do, and gives Hatton the chance of unloading to the body.
Yeah agree.
Pac is deffo gonna know about it, if lets Hatton pin him on the ropes.
Yeah you are right there. People think Magee only hurt Hatton when he knocked him down. Not the case. Magee hurt Hatton a couple of times.
That's what concerns me about the Pacman fight.
Pacman could just copy and paste Magee's fight plan and practically punch Ricky Hatton's face off. Though it certainly wouldn't be a natural thing for him to do, and gives Hatton the chance of unloading to the body.
good, I said this the other day, but man. Mickey Vann, didn't he ref every single fight of Hatton's up until he fought Tszyu, lol!!!
I bet Warren tried to get him to do that fight too. The first clean straight-right-hand Tszyu landed, Vann would have headbutted him.
I don't know if he had better headmovement back then either. I'm sure he'd still murder all those guys today. Eamon Magee came closer to taking him out then many people say imo. That was classic, walked out of his corner about 4 inches and knocked Hatton down with the first shot of the contest, then spent the next few rounds in exactly the same spot countering the shit out of Ricky, then Hatton' bodywork took it's toll.
Yeah you are right there. People think Magee only hurt Hatton when he knocked him down. Not the case. Magee hurt Hatton a couple of times.
Mickey Vann the Pipe bender :lol1:
good, I said this the other day, but man. Mickey Vann, didn't he ref every single fight of Hatton's up until he fought Tszyu, lol!!!
I bet Warren tried to get him to do that fight too. The first clean straight-right-hand Tszyu landed, Vann would have headbutted him.
I don't know if he had better headmovement back then either. I'm sure he'd still murder all those guys today. Eamon Magee came closer to taking him out then many people say imo. That was classic, walked out of his corner about 4 inches and knocked Hatton down with the first shot of the contest, then spent the next few rounds in exactly the same spot countering the shit out of Ricky, then Hatton' bodywork took it's toll.
I loved his WBU reign of terror.
One of the most entertaining title runs in history.
My favourite fight of that exceptional series is when Stephen Smith's Dad Darkie ran in the ring and started swearing at the ref.
Or when Frankie Pendleton took a body shot like Cristiano Ronaldo dives for a penalty. Three times he rolled over, coupled with a look of anguish and distain.
Mickey Vann the Pipe bender :lol1:
I loved his WBU reign of terror.
One of the most entertaining title runs in history.
My favourite fight is when Stephen Smith's Dad Darkie ran in the ring and started swearing at the ref.
You know what, i cant remember much of it Anymore, and i saw quite a few of those fights.
Some have said it was the golden age of JR welterweight boxing, might have to give it a rewatch sometime.
Didnt he have a bit more head movement in them days as well?
To be fair hatton went to the USA and risked his 0 against the best fighter of this era hands down.
Wonder what would have happened if he held on to the WBU for 10 years, staying in his backyard for most of it, and trying to get the best fighters of his era to come and fight him in some car park in manchester, then complain they are ducking him when they turn him down.
I loved his WBU reign of terror.
One of the most entertaining title runs in history.
My favourite fight of that exceptional series is when Stephen Smith's Dad Darkie ran in the ring and started swearing at the ref.
Or when Frankie Pendleton took a body shot like Cristiano Ronaldo dives for a penalty. Three times he rolled over, coupled with a look of anguish and distain.
yeah he would be, definetely.
That sucks for Joe Calzaghe, P4P Joe Calzaghe would whomp Ricky Hatton. Sad really.
To be fair hatton went to the USA and risked his 0 against the best fighter of this era hands down.
Wonder what would have happened if he held on to the WBU for 10 years, staying in his backyard for most of it, and trying to get the best fighters of his era to come and fight him in some car park in manchester, then complain they are ducking him when they turn him down.
Would Ricky Hatton go above Calzaghe as an ATG British great, if he beat Pac?
Hatton
Pacquiao
Tszyu
Castillo
Collazo
Urango
Malignaggi
Maussa
Tackie
Phillips
Magee
Pendleton
Lazcano
Thaxton
Joe Calzaghe
Hopkins
Kessler
Eubank
Jones
Woodhall
Ried
Mitchell
Brewer
Lacy
Sheika
Bika
Veit
Starie
Yep, Hatton has fought in a more talented division too... Calzaghe's wins against Hopkins and Jones were good but in all fairness if it happened 8 years ago it could and probably would have been different.
Yeah i see what you mean...and he was a very big lightweight am not saying it should be taken against him but its not that impressive
Yeah. He was a great fighter dont get me wrong, and its a great win for Hatton, but i cant rank him really high amongst the great LW of all time though. However to reiterate he was a Very good fighter.
Yeah i think he is an overrated fighter. He is NO atg in my book. I think Whitaker/Mosley/Duran/Arguello would beat him comfortably.
i only have him in the top 100 as for me he beat mayweather but i can see a lot of arguments against him
I'm a fan of both but i think Hatton is already ahead now.
Joe should have left Warren a long time ago, maybe he would have had the bigger fights sooner than he did.
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Ok thanks. he was one great lightweight. I know its kinda disrespectful but he was really the "poorman's JCC" for me.a compliment really if you look at it.
Yeah i think he is an overrated fighter. He is NO atg in my book. I think Whitaker/Mosley/Duran/Arguello would beat him comfortably.