Team Sauerland, manager/promotor of IBF middleweight titleholder Arthur Abraham, has sent Kelly Pavlik's management an offer for 3 million dollars to fight Arthur Abraham.
Last fall Sauerland offered WBA titleholder Felix Sturm 2.5 million euros for a unification fight against Abraham. For reasons unspecified Sturm turned that offer down and has lost considerable face in Germany.
Will Pavlik take the bait?
It's good timing by Team Sauerland, calling Pavlik's bluff knowing his has plans to fight someone else.
Sauerland is probably expecting a 'No' answer but knowing it'll make Pavlik look bad for turning it down because this is the fight everyone wants to see.
Good tactic. Pavlik can't hide forever behind the Locketts and Rubios of the world.
To Kelly,
I say push for a little more money, pack your bags and get on a plane to Germany. Please. It's a great payday and you won't have to worry about it going to the cards one way or another. Either he's getting KTFO or you're getting KTFO, I don't see it going any other way. The fight could be at Abraham's house and it wouldn't change that fact.
Do it for boxing, so we can have an undisputed middleweight champ.
Co-Sign bro
Thats nearly spot on.
This Pavlik hate that goes on is stupid imo, I think the guy is good for the sport, seems quite humble, didnt act like a pussy when he got whooped by bernard.
Kelly has a plan and he sticks to it, he's not technically great, but he's effective, you gotta respect that.
This whole Abraham thing is outta control, his skill set is weak and he's a poor mover. If he was a great lateral mover like hopkins, or a guy who takes a away a fighters jab, then i could understand the hype, but those are fighters who give kelly trouble and Abraham is none of those.
I couldn't agree more. The Pavlik hate is laughable. He was THE rising star in boxing until he met up with Hopkins and a loss to one of the all time great middleweights now has people talking about Kelly like he is some kind of club fighter.
On the other side of the coin you have AA who, as you pointed out, has NONE of the skills that Hopkins used to give Pavlik a tough night. However, on this site you would think he is the second coming...
AA doesn't move well and if he thinks he is going to cover up and try to peek-a-boo with Kelly not only is he going to lose rounds here in the US but he is going to learn real fast that he is fighting more than the 1-1-2 down the pipe fighter that Pavlik is criticized as being.
Kelly works the body well and has an under-rated chin. Unless this fight happens in Germany and AA is handed a gift I see Kelly comfortably winning a UD or a late rounds stoppage as AA tires.
And another thing, why does it matter if the fight's in Germany? This fight ain't going the twelve rounds..
Abraham rarely takes a punch he isn't ready for. I see the might more than likely going the distance with Pavlik winning 10 rounds Abraham in full retreat in his turtle shell down the stretch.
In this bad recession, $3 million is a huge payday; if I was Kelly's financial advisor I'd force him to take that fight. There's no reason why this fight can't be made now...
I like Pavlik. But how long can you be considered the best MW if you fight nothing but bums? He needs to step up and beat someone who matters sometime this year or I think people will start losing intrest in him. HBO already began to lose intrest, he'll find himself fighting on Versus or something. He beat Taylor, but who else. Lockett, Rubio, maybe Mora now, is this guy seriously considered the best? He did act like a pussy when he lost to Bernard, he made excuses blaming the weight. His second fight with Taylor was at 168, why did he not have a problem then? Because it wasn't the weight, Hopkins exposed him.
He's the best because he beat the undisputed MW champ, twice.
And hopkins has exposed a few fighters, no shame in that, he's a true legend and was made for pavlik stylistically.
Abraham has power, thats all ive seen from him, and I havent seen all these big names he's beaten, maybe someone would like to tell me them and ill try and get the fights and take a look.
Thats nearly spot on.
This Pavlik hate that goes on is stupid imo, I think the guy is good for the sport, seems quite humble, didnt act like a pussy when he got whooped by bernard.
Kelly has a plan and he sticks to it, he's not technically great, but he's effective, you gotta respect that.
This whole Abraham thing is outta control, his skill set is weak and he's a poor mover. If he was a great lateral mover like hopkins, or a guy who takes a away a fighters jab, then i could understand the hype, but those are fighters who give kelly trouble and Abraham is none of those.
I like Pavlik. But how long can you be considered the best MW if you fight nothing but bums? He needs to step up and beat someone who matters sometime this year or I think people will start losing intrest in him. HBO already began to lose intrest, he'll find himself fighting on Versus or something. He beat Taylor, but who else. Lockett, Rubio, maybe Mora now, is this guy seriously considered the best? He did act like a pussy when he lost to Bernard, he made excuses blaming the weight. His second fight with Taylor was at 168, why did he not have a problem then? Because it wasn't the weight, Hopkins exposed him.
Thats nearly spot on.
This Pavlik hate that goes on is stupid imo, I think the guy is good for the sport, seems quite humble, didnt act like a pussy when he got whooped by bernard.
Kelly has a plan and he sticks to it, he's not technically great, but he's effective, you gotta respect that.
This whole Abraham thing is outta control, his skill set is weak and he's a poor mover. If he was a great lateral mover like hopkins, or a guy who takes a away a fighters jab, then i could understand the hype, but those are fighters who give kelly trouble and Abraham is none of those.
i agree man. people are in love with his power, but that's all he really has. pavlik is not the greatest by any means, but he is a far better boxer than aa. aa could never lose, and ko everyone he ever faces, but it still does not change the fact that that's all he has. i think they have kept his opposition as such.
Team Sauerland, manager/promotor of IBF middleweight titleholder Arthur Abraham, has sent Kelly Pavlik's management an offer for 3 million dollars to fight Arthur Abraham.
Last fall Sauerland offered WBA titleholder Felix Sturm 2.5 million euros for a unification fight against Abraham. For reasons unspecified Sturm turned that offer down and has lost considerable face in Germany.
Will Pavlik take the bait?
how much did pavlik make for hopkins??? abraham might have to match that.
aside power arthur's not really very good. he has no skillset at all. footwork is poor, stamina is very poor, as is his workrate. his d is not what many claim. he is no winky even though he covers up in a manner that to some fools looks the same. he has had busted ribs more than once because all he does is protect his head. he is not much of a counterpuncher. he waits, waits, and unleashes a few brutal, but very wide, and wild shots. than it's back to the cover up. he can crack i will give him that, and he is a tough sob, but aside those i'm not impressed with his ability at all.
Thats nearly spot on.
This Pavlik hate that goes on is stupid imo, I think the guy is good for the sport, seems quite humble, didnt act like a pussy when he got whooped by bernard.
Kelly has a plan and he sticks to it, he's not technically great, but he's effective, you gotta respect that.
This whole Abraham thing is outta control, his skill set is weak and he's a poor mover. If he was a great lateral mover like hopkins, or a guy who takes a away a fighters jab, then i could understand the hype, but those are fighters who give kelly trouble and Abraham is none of those.
If this fight doesn't happen soon, I don't think they'll ever fight. Pavlik needs to tell Mora to **** off and step up in class against AA.
If it's in europe, Sauerland can **** off. Pavlik is the man at 160, fighters should come to him.
i can agree with that!
What's so good about Abraham?
He punches hard.
What else?
Cos Pavlik took an unbeaten record to 170 against Bernard Hopkins, so why he is so afraid of Abraham?
aside power arthur's not really very good. he has no skillset at all. footwork is poor, stamina is very poor, as is his workrate. his d is not what many claim. he is no winky even though he covers up in a manner that to some fools looks the same. he has had busted ribs more than once because all he does is protect his head. he is not much of a counterpuncher. he waits, waits, and unleashes a few brutal, but very wide, and wild shots. than it's back to the cover up. he can crack i will give him that, and he is a tough sob, but aside those i'm not impressed with his ability at all.
If this fight doesn't happen soon, I don't think they'll ever fight. Pavlik needs to tell Mora to **** off and step up in class against AA.
If it's in europe, Sauerland can **** off. Pavlik is the man at 160, fighters should come to him.
it all depends on aa handling the weight at 160 which i dont think he can.. looked a shadow of himself at the weekend... pavlik or arum should i say wont take the risk..
What's so good about Abraham?
He punches hard.
What else?
Cos Pavlik took an unbeaten record to 170 against Bernard Hopkins, so why he is so afraid of Abraham?
easy win for abraham, Pavlick is so robitic and slow, his last fight agains Rubio was dire and he looked rubbish
Ermm did you see Abraham vs Simon, ermm its was competitive, and Abraham's footwork is hilarious, he is so wide punching its unreal and he spends lots of time standing still covering up. He wont get rounds for that shit if he goes to america and fights Kelly.
Neither of them are technical geniuses, but I think the fight will happen, In the USA, and I think Pavlik can get the win, probably decision. If Abraham cant land clean, I cant see him winning this one.