anyone who can show PROOF or reference to proof (not speculation of what they think or thought was or would happen), of Khan whipping Barerra before he got a gash that was down to the bone in round one but suddenly became too bad to let Barerra continue after the point where it could be ruled a no contest bout five rounds later.
Seriously, if anyone shows me anything that decisively shows Khan murdering Barerra to the point where people somehow knew it was over before the cut even happened, I will give you all my points on a weekly basis.
I dare someone to try and show me :D
Go on, you know you want those points to bet with!
The reason why I am not arguing is because this is a bait thread created by a troll to discredit a younger, quicker and stronger fighter beating their legend, old but legend.
What about you prove it to me that Barrera could have done something if the cut didnt happen? I will give you all my points and green K. He had no answer for the handspeed of Khan and he was too small for a big lightweight. As Freddie Roach said speed is the worse enemy of Barrera.
Excuse me sir but what kind of retard are you?
What part of "I'm a fan of neither fighter", pushed you to believe that MAB is my legendary hero or some bs lol?
On top of that, instead of showing evidence of an obviously younger faster (why is everyone making that out to be an echeivement and why do you think I care he's younger or faster?) Khan aparrently "dominating/whipping/etc" Barerra before the cut to the point where people think he would've won the whole fight based on the less than two minutes of footage we can actually SEE of Barerra without a cut that everyone believes should have stopped the fight there and then...............you want me to somehow PROVE to you what Barerra COULD have done based on pure speculation?
Hrmmm, okay how about no?
I've never once mentioned what I think Barerra would do, but if you think me mentioning the cut as a bigger factor in the fight than khans speed (especially when it was the cut that ended the fight and not Khans speed) is me being a nuthugger then I don't really know what to say.
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lol i love that sour grapes pic, i gota say though i must be in that bunch cos i dont think khan is realy good and i reckon barrera would have beat him minus the cut, he want even fazed by khans punches and the chin would have been hit cleanly enough at some point.
Jesus! Next people will be calling him a slapper! lmao
i think he is a fast tickler more than a slapper, you know how is when your a kid and someone tickles you bad, thats what khan has been doing to hs opponents, there should a new way of winning the technical tickle out
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It's kinda hard to have sour grapes when I'm not even slightly a fan of either boxer, but your picture of grapes is indeed an excellent counter arguement.
I stand defeated.
You are truly awesome.
I like MAB, but I just think at this stage, and with the accumulated rust khan was a bit too good.
Yeah, had nothing to do with a three inch gash that was showing bone that was blinding his nearside eye though.
Must've just been that Khan is just really really good.
go on youtube and watch the first half or round one, barrera looked shell shocked.
I watched the fight live and I've watched that round over and over.
The only time I'd use such a big word like "shell-shocked" to describe Barerra was when the clash of heads happened and Barerra backed off to the ropes and covered up.
He didn't do anything of the sort before and he didn't look shell shocked at all.
go on youtube and watch the first half or round one, barrera looked shell shocked.
I've seen it two or three times now and he may have been a little uncomfortable with Khan's speed, but he was still able to avoid many of his shots, and would probably have adapted to Khan's style as the fight progressed. He didn't looked shellshocked at all, this is Marco Antonio Barrera! The guy's seen it all, and would have caught Khan sooner or later without the cut.
I'm not gonna talk about this fight anymore, it was yet another hype builder for Khan which the general public are going to buy into, when in reality, it proved nothing and was nothing more than a NO CONTEST.
Funny since he was talking about only the duration of the non-cut, which equates to around 2 minutes of the whole fight, Think!
Jesus Christ.
WTF you on about?? I was agreeing with the OP's point.
if anyone shows me anything that decisively shows Khan murdering Barerra to the point where people somehow knew it was over before the cut even happened
He was asking for evidence that showed that the fight was over before the cut happened, and I agreed and said that winning 1 round, barely, does not prove Khan would have won the fight without the cut. Think! yourself, prick.
Anything could of happened in the fight if there was or wasn't a cut.
No point arguing anymore nothing can be done, A rematch would answer the marjority of questions, if it does happen.
Funny since he was talking about only the duration of the non-cut, which equates to around 2 minutes of the whole fight, Think!
Jesus Christ.
Well actually, I was talking about people saying that Khans performance for two minutes was solid evidence for them that MAB could never have won the fight for the reason that "Khan was dominating Barerra before the cut anyway so he would have probably done the same for 12 rounds".
I agree with everything you're saying, mate. The problem is, some people are just too thick to realise that winning 1 minute of any round, let alone the first round, does not equate to being dominant for the remainder of the fight. Hatton won 2 or 3 rounds against Mayweather, does that mean he was dominant??? F*** no.
Funny since he was talking about only the duration of the non-cut, which equates to around 2 minutes of the whole fight, Think!
Jesus Christ.
I agree with everything you're saying, mate. The problem is, some people are just too thick to realise that winning 1 minute of any round, let alone the first round, does not equate to being dominant for the remainder of the fight. Hatton won 2 or 3 rounds against Mayweather, does that mean he was dominant??? F*** no.
Pretty funny since I actually stated that He got the better of the situation in the first 2 mins and doesn't mean he was dominating Barrera throughout the other 5 rounds, I did it to stop morons from posting it in future reference.
lets be real... khan's handspeed was too fast for mab in the first 5 rounds. that said, who knows what could've happened without the cut.
The first 5 rounds... like there were rounds after that?
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Khan was throwing a lot, but the VAST majority of them were landing on gloves.
This is true. Yesterday I watched the fight in 2X slow motion and noticed many shots were missed.
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I agree with everything you're saying, mate. The problem is, some people are just too thick to realise that winning 1 minute of any round, let alone the first round, does not equate to being dominant for the remainder of the fight. Hatton won 2 or 3 rounds against Mayweather, does that mean he was dominant??? F*** no.
Good point actually.
I can bet my left nut the majority of people didn't see that brutal KO coming until the fighters had finished the "feeler(first)" round and settled down properly into their rhythms.
I thought the criteria for judging was clean effective punching (which is why castillo lost against Berto, he was hitting Berto a lot, but the majority of the punches were pretty much doing nothing)?
Khan was throwing a lot, but the VAST majority of them were landing on gloves.
I didn't really see Khan hitting Barerra with anything substantial the few times he did catch him.
Barerra got in a few body shots and a short uppercut near the beginning of the round too (about 50 seconds in), aswell as the hook that nocked Khan off balance, so it's not like he wasn't doing anything. He was mixing it up with Khan, taking and giving, just before/at the time of the clash of heads.
He wasn't walking Barerra back via pressure. He wasn't being hurt. I don't think it was domination at all. He was still taking punches.
I don't think that when people said Khan was dominating Barerra they were talking about points, which is why I made that comment.
I agree with everything you're saying, mate. The problem is, some people are just too thick to realise that winning 1 minute of any round, let alone the first round, does not equate to being dominant for the remainder of the fight. Hatton won 2 or 3 rounds against Mayweather, does that mean he was dominant??? F*** no.
Haha "omg Barerras getting owned", don't believe I said that, See your problem is you take everything out of context.
Whether the punches were effective or not doesn't matter, they landed cleanly and that's what counts when judging.
Khan won that round with or without the cut, thus he was more dominant that is why he won the round.
Never said he was dominant throughout the fight only the 2 minutes at the beginning of round 1.
Now you will take the word I used dominant out of context like you did before such as OMgZzz Uppercuts flash Ko'z from all de Angles!!
No but control the fight.
I thought the criteria for judging was clean effective punching (which is why castillo lost against Berto, he was hitting Berto a lot, but the majority of the punches were pretty much doing nothing)?
Khan was throwing a lot, but the VAST majority of them were landing on gloves.
I didn't really see Khan hitting Barerra with anything substantial the few times he did catch him.
Barerra got in a few body shots and a short uppercut near the beginning of the round too (about 50 seconds in), aswell as the hook that nocked Khan off balance, so it's not like he wasn't doing anything. He was mixing it up with Khan, taking and giving, just before/at the time of the clash of heads.
He wasn't walking Barerra back via pressure. He wasn't being hurt. I don't think it was domination at all. He was still taking punches.
I don't think that when people said Khan was dominating Barerra they were talking about points, which is why I made that comment.