Good performance by Khan but Barrera looked poor in his last few fights and was fighting with one eye, but why didn't his CORNER stop it before the end of the 4th it was obvious he couldn't see out of the eye so it would have been a NC wouldn't it? now i am saying the CORNER pulling him out not BARRERA QUITTING OK.
I WILL SAY THIS AGAIN I AM TALKING ABOUT THE CORNER THE CORNER I KNOW BARRERA WOULDN'T QUIT PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING AHHHHHHHHHH. BUT AS SOMEONE POINTED OUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A NC ANYWAY SO IT DONT MATTER.
That is not what i am saying i was talking about the corner not barrera i know he wouldnt ****ing quit just read my bloody posts, i have said that in my last few post i give up with this thread i am to hung over to think anymore.
Lol, go drink some Lucozade and get some grub down ya! I feel fresh as a daisy today for a change on a Sunday!
That is not what i am trying to say is it, the corner knew that he was one eyed and was going to lose as it was almost impossible for him to actually time a shot to land, i know Barrera wouldnt quit but im just saying it might have been smart for his corner to pull him out in the 4th thats all.
I think the bottom line is Barrera wanted to win and wanted to keep trying. The point he made after the fight was if the ref knew it was a clash of heads that caused the cut, then it should of been on the ref to stop the fight (when the clash happened) not his corner.
But I do understand what you were trying to say.
That is not what i am saying i was talking about the corner not barrera i know he wouldnt ****ing quit just read my bloody posts, i have said that in my last few post i give up with this thread i am to hung over to think anymore.
I disagree, I don't think it would have gone down differently anywhere else. The ref first gave the corner the chance to do something with it. When it was obvious they couldn't do much, he called in the doctor and then asked Barrera if he wished to continue. He did. The doctor was then called in a second time, and he stopped the fight. If you think about it, how many times have we seen that - the doc lets it continue on the first referral to him, but stops it on the second? Being in the UK had nothing to do with it.
Ahh Mabey ur right, when u break it down in black and white it seems like that but i just had that feeling u know
I think it was allowed to continue (by the ref and doc) as it was in the UK and gave Amir a win instead of a NC
I disagree, I don't think it would have gone down differently anywhere else. The ref first gave the corner the chance to do something with it. When it was obvious they couldn't do much, he called in the doctor and then asked Barrera if he wished to continue. He did. The doctor was then called in a second time, and he stopped the fight. If you think about it, how many times have we seen that - the doc lets it continue on the first referral to him, but stops it on the second? Being in the UK had nothing to do with it.
I think it was allowed to continue (by the ref and doc) as it was in the UK and gave Amir a win instead of a NC
Yeah your right im hving brain fade this morning due to excessive magners last night, the doctor could have stopped it in the 4th when the blood was pumping out.
Yeah. If his corner pulled him when the referee and doctor would otherwise let him continue it's a loss, not a NC. Of course, that still raises a conveniently forgotten question. The purpose of stopping the fight for a cut has nothing to do with the result being 'unfair' in any way, it is because there is an unacceptable risk to the health of the boxer. If it was was so obvious that the fight should have been stopped then Barrera's corner should have throwbn in the towel regardless. I think it was allowed to continue (by the ref and doc) as it was in the UK and gave Amir a win instead of a NC
yeah but if they pull him out because of the cut wouldnt it be classed as a NC like Rahman Toney 2?
No Rahman got the doc to stop the fight. If the corner pull u out for any reason its a TKO loss, If the doc stoped it before the 5th it was a NC, after the 4th it go's to the cards
yeah but if they pull him out because of the cut wouldnt it be classed as a NC like Rahman Toney 2?
No. If his corner pulled him when the referee and doctor would otherwise let him continue it's a loss, not a NC. Of course, that still raises a conveniently forgotten question. The purpose of stopping the fight for a cut has nothing to do with the result being 'unfair' in any way, it is because there is an unacceptable risk to the health of the boxer. If it was was so obvious that the fight should have been stopped then Barrera's corner should have thrown in the towel anyway. Remember, his corner knew more about the extent of the damage and the affect it was having on Barrera than either the referee or the doctor.
No it would have been a TKO loss only the doctor or ref can stop it based on a cut without it going down as a TKO, Barrera wanted the doc to stop it
yeah but if they pull him out because of the cut wouldnt it be classed as a NC like Rahman Toney 2?
Because he's Mexican and Mexicans never quit! lol
that is not what i am saying how many more times do i have to say that. I was taliking about the corner not Barrera.
And risk being a called a quitter here on boxingscene? He couldn't live with himself.
That is not what i am trying to say is it, the corner knew that he was one eyed and was going to lose as it was almost impossible for him to actually time a shot to land, i know Barrera wouldnt quit but im just saying it might have been smart for his corner to pull him out in the 4th thats all.
why didn't his corner stop it before the end of the 4th it was obvious he couldn't see out of the eye so it would have been a NC wouldn't it?
And risk being a called a quitter here on boxingscene? He couldn't live with himself.
As has been said, because he is a true warrior with balls to match. To him, his pride is more important than his statistics.. in which regard he has nothing extra to prove.
sorry i didnt mean it like that i know you should quit i meant why didnt his corner pull him out i worded that shit lol and tried to edit it by my dam internet keeps cutting off.