Why the Khan-Barrera fight wasn't stopped earlier

I am not giving excuses for MAB and I do not think this fight does anything to his legacy. All I am saying is this fight should've been stopped earlier or not at all. Giving MAB the benefit of the doubt is one thing in rounds 1 and 2, but after seeing the cut can not being dealt with than the fight should of been stopped. I will say agaiin, I saw no difference in MAB from rounds 1-4 than in round 5. So either stop the fight earlier or not at all.

"Benefit of the Doubt!" thats why they did not Stop the fight earlier on in the 1st rd. MAB is a "Boxing Legend", during his fight with Pacquaio... He was being battered ferociuosly in the middle round then on but the ref and his corner didn't stop the fight coz his "MAB" and he has fought from adversity to win in his many fights that he has won. Same with Oscar againts Manny, and we all know what happened their. Champions and Legends are being given leeway to figh back from the brink of defeat or adversity coz they have proven it in the past and they deserve it. Thas what happened with the Khan-Barrera Fight, thay give MAB the "Benefit of the Doubt" that he can still fight eventhough it's a "Bad Cut" coz thats what he has done in the past with all that "Mexican Bravado." Let's not give excuses to fallen Champs or Legends everytime they lost to a "Younger Blood" because thats what we call the "Changing of the Guards" and it will be good for Boxing as a Whole. Fans, Writers, Analyst and Arm-chair Experts may have their opinions and their own-conclusion about whats has happened or what is giong to happened to major fights... Blah! Blah! Blah! But history will remember the "Fights and the Victory" after the victoriuos fighter cease his glory and take it to new heights. Khan is a "Good" Boxer and someday might be a Great one bit MAB is a Great One already... but by giving excuses for him might tarnished some of his "Greatness." Just my Two Cents!

Wow, I'd expect a more thorough explanation with the experience you have. It was apparent he couldn't see and what happens when you're down one eye in a sport where reaction is everything? I was going to make a similar reply towards his retarded notion (from someone who aparrantly has so much experience) that having a closed eye from round one means nothing in a sport where reaction and depth of field are key, but I just couldn't be bothered.

The answer is alot of reasons lol.

Barrera wanted to fight on because who wouldn't? especially since it is Barrera. Okay I said 3 times that he has the choice to end the fight, which he does because they can clarify it was accidental and he cannot see making the fight dangerous. I said he has the Choice to Appeal which he did, not have a choice outright to continue thats is the doctors decision. Him appealing has an effect, if he did not appeal then that would give them the impression that he is not happy to continue, its just human nature that the ref would take into account the determination of the fighter, whether it is a right decision is another story. The Doctor could of ended the fight but didn't this is a factor that was mentioned, (maybe being biased and wanting Khan to win, who knows) This last statement you make is the basis of my question. Take the part of him appealing to continue or not out of it. And your right if he isn't adament about keeping on fighting than maybe it gets stopped earlier. But this had no effect in many other fights where fighters are begging to continue. Stopping the fight in the 5th when he had a dozen other oppurtunities after looking at the same cut to stop the fight isn't right. Stop the fight in rounds 1-4 and call it a no contest or let it go is what im saying. The cut is the same in those rounds as it was in the 5th.

I'm pretty sure the guys crying that the fight should have been stopped would have been complaining if the fight had been stopped

Out of curiosity, does anybody know if it's been reported what exactly was said in the conversation between MAB and the doctor the first time (I think it was the 3rd Round, I forget)?

Barrera wanted to fight on because who wouldn't? especially since it is Barrera. Okay I said 3 times that he has the choice to end the fight, which he does because they can clarify it was accidental and he cannot see making the fight dangerous. I said he has the Choice to Appeal which he did, not have a choice outright to continue thats is the doctors decision. Him appealing has an effect, if he did not appeal then that would give them the impression that he is not happy to continue, its just human nature that the ref would take into account the determination of the fighter, whether it is a right decision is another story. The Doctor could of ended the fight but didn't this is a factor that was mentioned, (maybe being biased and wanting Khan to win, who knows)

The crowd you speak of is not only the thousand watching in the arena but the millions watching around the world. If he begs out of the fight then he won't get a rematch because this is not the Barrera everyone wanted to show up to the fight, thus dismissing a rematch because we all know Barrera wouldn't quit, showing one of his qualities. - Ok, last time. Barrera (Had a cut due to Accidental headbutt), he had the choice to stop the fight by appealing (Dude did you see that cut?), he didn't (Because Barrera is badass and wanted to fight on). End. There's loads of factors involved, English ref and persumably english doctor (Out of professional most likely wanted to give Barrera a chance to fight on or give khan a win) But Barrera didn't disagree and fought on. The fact that Barrera wanted to fight on -- and I say "wanted" because it was probably a better choice than seeming like a quitter -- is irrelevant. The doctor could see that the cut was as bad in the first round as it was in the fifth. Ultimately, it's up to the doc, referee or corner to stop the fight. Most fighters would choose to fight on with facial damage. Take Vitali against Lewis. I'm pretty sure he wanted to fight on despite his awful cuts affecting his performance, but, had he done so, he would have been in danger of losing sight in his left eye. Barrera's cut was not as dangerous as Vitali's, but it is a fact that his performance was greatly affected by the amount of blood covering his face and running directly into his eye. This is not suggesting that Barrera would have won if he wasn't cut, but it is suggesting that the doctor and referee were either incompetent or doing the best thing for Khan to ensure he came away with a win. Personally, I think it stinks of home cooking. The playing field was not level, and without the cut we might have seen a different outcome 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

wasnt there a thread about how guerrero was a pussy for not continuing? I specifically remember people complaining about that. all i can say is if this was the other way around it wouldnt have made it to 5. they would have given khan the NC to protect him. i cant help but feel because of his popularity hes destined to become one of the most protected fighters of all time. whatever, build him up all you want, he will eventually fall. i remember after prescott someone said he got "khanned". i love that term and look forward to using it again, because sure enough, when he faces a real puncher who isnt old and cut to sh*t, he will get "khanned".

The crowd you speak of is not only the thousand watching in the arena but the millions watching around the world. If he begs out of the fight then he won't get a rematch because this is not the Barrera everyone wanted to show up to the fight, thus dismissing a rematch because we all know Barrera wouldn't quit, showing one of his qualities. - Ok, last time. Barrera (Had a cut due to Accidental headbutt), he had the choice to stop the fight by appealing (Dude did you see that cut?), he didn't (Because Barrera is badass and wanted to fight on). End. There's loads of factors involved, English ref and persumably english doctor (Out of professional most likely wanted to give Barrera a chance to fight on or give khan a win) But Barrera didn't disagree and fought on.

What round should of this fight been stopped if it all? Round 2 or 3, in my opinion. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Barrera and Corrales are two of a long list of fighters that would opt to continue to fight under any circumstances. Barrera wanted to continue to fight and so did Corrales for the same reason, belief in his skills and heart to beat the other fighterin the ring. What does Barrera care to dissapoint the crowd, the fight wasn't in Mexico. And if begs out of the fight, a la Guerrero, he most likely gets a rematch and even more money. So your points are incorrect, and again I say it is not up to the fighter at that point to continue or not, it is the referee and doctor who have to look out for his health. A fighter is a fighter, not a doctor.

A fighter is always going to say he wants to continue, and its not his choice, its the doctor and the referee's decision. As I said before when Diego Coralles and Cassamoyer fought, Diego was still fighting back but had blood in his mouth and the fight was stopped even though Diego insisted on continuing. The doctor and referee saw the same thing in rounds 1-5 but stops the fight in round 5. There are many factors involved. The reasons for Diego wanting to contiue were different from Barreras because Diegos cut wasn't accidental, at that time all the fighter can do is appeal and then it is up to the ref and doctor... If they stop it then it is a TKO. Barreras was accidental and thus he had the choice to appeal to continue which he did otherwise if he asked the fight to be stopped there would be no doubt it would of been and finish as a NC. Corrales wanted to continue so he could win, Barrera wanted to continue because he knows its a big event and doesn't want the fight to be stopped this way because hes got alot to show but he could of stopped it and salvage some pride (With himself) with a NC which is fair enough.

it's bang out of order tbh, no regard for his safety

A fighter is always going to say he wants to continue, and its not his choice, its the doctor and the referee's decision. As I said before when Diego Coralles and Cassamoyer fought, Diego was still fighting back but had blood in his mouth and the fight was stopped even though Diego insisted on continuing. The doctor and referee saw the same thing in rounds 1-5 but stops the fight in round 5.

The crowd is not taken into account, nor should them asking for they're money back. Only the health of the fighter and his ability to continue to fight is at stake. He had the same ability to fight in the 1st round than in the 5th. And the other response was that Barrera wanted to continue. Of course he did and the only type of fighter who asks out of fights are quitters like Guerrero and Golota. Barrera fights on, but its not his decision, it is the referee and doctor's decision to think for the fighter and on behalf of the fighter. Except he chose to continue (He was in discomfort and knew he had a long hard road ahead of actually getting a win and showed a heart of a warrior) but how can anyone be concerned about his health and his abilty when the fighter himself is very well aware or the risks he is taking (not semi conscious maybe a bit frustrated and distracted) and still issuing an arguement to continue. He didn't show any signs of not wanting to continue in the state he was in, so in the end it was down to Barrera, because the cut he had and if he said he wanted it stopped, they couldn't really argue.

The reason it was not stopped because if they stopped it in the 2nd everyone including the Khan haters would be pretty ticked off since everyone was looking forward to it, and people would demand there money back because the undercards weren't looking to good for the brits. Even without the cut I can't see him doing anything to Khan anyway looked like DLH - Pacman all over again It was unfortunate, but wasn't planned and Khan made the best of the situation. The crowd is not taken into account, nor should them asking for they're money back. Only the health of the fighter and his ability to continue to fight is at stake. He had the same ability to fight in the 1st round than in the 5th. And the other response was that Barrera wanted to continue. Of course he did and the only type of fighter who asks out of fights are quitters like Guerrero and Golota. Barrera fights on, but its not his decision, it is the referee and doctor's decision to think for the fighter and on behalf of the fighter.

I'm happy with the decision.......Had money on Khan :dance:

The reason it was not stopped because if they stopped it in the 2nd everyone including the Khan haters would be pretty ticked off since everyone was looking forward to it, and people would demand there money back because the undercards weren't looking to good for the brits. Even without the cut I can't see him doing anything to Khan anyway looked like DLH - Pacman all over again It was unfortunate, but wasn't planned and Khan made the best of the situation.