This isn't even an argument. Keep in mind two years ago Rafa was probably considered better, and will go down as one of the best Bantamweight fighters to ever lace
em. And now JMM is on a tear.
I almost said the Mario Bros. are better than the Klits (It's on like Donkey Kong.) But then I realized that might cause somebody on here to have a seizure so I stopped. I don't want that on my conscience.
Then I almost voted for the Klits because I felt sorry for them getting killed in this poll.
But then I thought, this thread is gonna result in a dozen "The Klits are gods" threads flooding the board just to offset this slaughter. The Human NyQuil Brothers have tons of support on here.
So in the end, I voted for Los Bros. Marquez (the obvious answer).
P.S. Being Red K'ed to death by Klitty Nuthuggers had nothing to do with it.
I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if anyone in their right mind thinks that the Klitschkos are better or will have a stronger legacy than the Marquez brothers, are either ****ed up in the head or really ****in stupid.
Also, keep in mind... The Klitschko's have the advantage of splitting the work. They're in the same division. With the Marquez brothers, they've accomplished what they have in different divisions, numerous ones.
Honestly, to me it's not even close.
Marquez brothers, all the way.
When you look at their title fight records, both do well, with the numbers....
Marquez brothers = 17 (12) - 5 - 1
Klitschko brothers = 19 (18) - 4 - 0
Both are pretty even, realistically. From there, it all favors the Marquez brothers.
You can't give me the argument of skill, for the record. All four men are trained well, decent to great condition for most all of their fights and so that argument goes out the window. If you've watched all at their best, you know all are fundamentally sound.
Nonetheless, HONESTLY.. What group of fighters would you rather have.
Chris Byrd (combined 3 times)
Monte Barrett
Francois Botha
Ray Mercer
Jameel McCline
Corrie Sanders (combined 2 times)
Lamont Brewster (2 times)
Samuel Peter (combined 2 times)
Calvin Brock
Sultan Ibragimov
Tony Thompson
Hasim Rahman
Lennox Lewis
Or....
Rocky Juarez
Agapito Sanchez
Freddie Norwood
Robbie Peden
Manuel Medina
Derrick Gainer
Manny Pacquiao (2 times)
Chris John
Marco Antonio Barrera
Joel Casamayor
Juan Diaz
Tim Austin
Israel Vazquez (2 times)
Mark Johnson (2 times)
Silence Mabuza (2 times)
Both Marquez brothers are ranked higher, even their average is higher than either Klitschko in terms of ranking. Both fighters ahave one opponent each that they have fought closely that is ranked, higher for that matter.
Both Marquez brothers have combined more Hall of famers, (or ATLEAST potential HOFamers, ) on their combined resume. Both have fought in or are in tougher divisions, if you go by talent and the rankings.
The fighters they have on their resumes also STILL rank higher than the Klitschko foes do. By The Ring's standards, only two of the Klitschko brothers former challengers are ranked in the top ten in the division. Whereas 7 of the Marquez brothers former opponents are still ranked.
To me, not even a close comparison. And I've been friendly to the Klitschko brothers but.....
MARQUEZ BROS. > KLITSCHKO BROS.
What are the klits top wins? You can even argue that jmm has never really lost...Rafa didnt lose 4 how long like 7 ****en years? Jesus it's not even close...Wlad and vitali have beaten scrubs and lost to scrubs(wlad) the least they can do is kick there ass in 3 rounds and show they are far superior instead of taking 10000 rounds to beat them
Ha im sorry im done with this thread i thought it was a discussion there r some people here getting butt-hurt(not u) so im out to another thread..peace
If people take a message board too seriously, that's their problem.
It's no reason to stop discussing the subject.
Heavyweights are generally more popular, but is that a reason to rate them above smaller fighters with greater achievements and opposition?
Ha im sorry im done with this thread i thought it was a discussion there r some people here getting butt-hurt(not u) so im out to another thread..peace
ROFL.
Translation: I'm pretty much just a massive fuktard without a clue.
Im not starting shit over lol ur a joke my boy along with a lot of people here..i have few posts but i know more than your dad when it comes to boxing aight? respect..i aint disrespecting anybody here..so respect cuz i dont need anyone telling me to change what i said k?
I'm certain you know a lot more than my old man, he barely follows the sport.
Whatever champ, TS put you straight. As he said, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Hey thats cool with me look at my fave fighters JMM is there and the Klits r not..but i am just being realistic im not a biased fan like most here..i like watching boxing and i like watching the Marquez fights but im telling u all u should watch MMA i think u guys would like it more than boxing since ur point is that the Klits r boring..becuz i know damn well u aint talking about achivements..
Explain how the Klitschkos have "superior achievements" to the Marquez brothers other than popularity.
JMM is a 3 division champ who has beaten (or in the Pac fight, drew with) better fighters than the Klitschkos have.
Vitali's best wins are over old, inactive Corrie Sanders, Sam Peter, fat Kirk Johnson, and Herbie Hide.
Mark Too Sharp Johnson was much better fighter than any of them. So was the aging Joel Casamayor. So was the Manny Pacquiao that JMM drew with in 2004, and lost narrowly to in 2008.
Popularity (heavyweight vs. diaperweight) doesn't mean you're greater.
Otherwise, everyone would be saying Mike Tyson and Oscar De La Hoya were miles greater than Pernell Whitaker and Eder Jofre.
wow 24* to 5*..haha this has to be a joke..come on guys lets be real..wow seriously..i dislike klitschko fights but damn talk about being full of it..Marquez;s better than the Klitchscko's? Lol Vitali's Loss to Lewis is already better than any win by both Marquez;s..Stop hating on their styles..ur all biased and hate on great boxers..U like fighting and blood and action so much then go watch UFC or WWE..leave boxing for those who appreciate the disclipline and Patience of Boxing
I'm not going to be alone in condemning this post. That is some very retarded shit right there. You don't have many posts, I suggest maybe starting over?
"future WBO titlist Agapito Sanchez
former WBO titlist Alfred Kotey
WBA titlist Freddie Norwood
future IBF titlist Robbie Peden
numerous-times titlist Manuel Medina
WBA titlist Derrick Gainer"
Can u say Journeymen?
ROFL at journeyman.
Step your boxing knowledge game up, please.
They were good fighters, even if you've never heard of them.
Now again, please explain your previous claim of Vitali "fighting more former champs than either Marquez brother".
Korean-loving homo blockhead faced more former champs than Shitali.
Look it up.
wow 24* to 5*..haha this has to be a joke..come on guys lets be real..wow seriously..i dislike klitschko fights but damn talk about being full of it..Marquez;s better than the Klitchscko's? Lol Vitali's Loss to Lewis is already better than any win by both Marquez;s..Stop hating on their styles..ur all biased and hate on great boxers..U like fighting and blood and action so much then go watch UFC or WWE..leave boxing for those who appreciate the disclipline and Patience of Boxing
check everyones top 10 p4p
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