If Joe Calzaghe is an ALL TIME great then you can crown Paul Spadafora one also!!!

More: Yeah, than must be it. Doesn't matter if Eubank says he hits hard as ****, or if Jones says the "slaps" hurt much more than he thought, but "Pullcounter" from a boxing forum obviously knows more than both these vets. obviously if you lose to a slapper you're going to say he punches harder than you thought. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/natas206/hopcalz-1.gif

he dominated but he was fighting nobody's Exactly. That's the point Joe fans don't understand, and automatically think people re taking a pop at Joe or something

Personally i dont look into the Lightheavyweight fights too much, but at 168 he was totally dominant for over a decade. Im going to guess you havent been watching boxing for too long (or maybe not anything outside of America), so maybe you dont know that much about his opponents at super middleweight. But even so, you must have been watching long enough to have watched the Kessler fight. Or was he just a bum too. he dominated but he was fighting nobody's

More: As each fight fell by the wayside, the whispers grew louder: When would super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe (43-0, 32 KOs) of Wales come up lame as he has so many times before? When would he reinjure his chronically bad left hand and have to pull out of the highly anticipated Nov. 3 (HBO, 9 p.m. ET) unification fight against Denmark's Mikkel Kessler (39-0, 29 KOs)? One suggestion, perhaps only half-joking, was that the injury-prone Calzaghe should spend the remainder of his training camp inside a plastic bubble to avoid injury so as not to jeopardize a fight for which a crowd of 60,000-plus is expected to fill Millennium Stadium in Cardiff. After all, Calzaghe has canceled or postponed several fights during his career, such as the time he suffered a wrist injury during a September 2005 defense against Evans Ashira that many advised him not to take because he was supposed to face Jeff Lacy in a unification fight a few months later. Sure enough, Calzaghe hurt his wrist and the Lacy fight had to be postponed several months. Now, with one of the biggest bouts in super middleweight history just a couple of weeks away, Calzaghe, a champion for 10 years, says that for one of the few times in his career he is going into a fight in perfect health. "At the moment, I'm sparring well, I'm punching out in the gym," Calzaghe said. "My hands feel 100 percent. You can't go into any fight thinking about injuries or you just shouldn't fight, so I'm going in there with a 100 percent positive attitude that I'm going to be punching 12 rounds, full power. " is going into this fight thinking I can't punch. I'm really looking forward to wiping that smile off his face on fight night because both my hands have been really strong in training. The only time that my punching power is lacking is when I break my hands or I have a hand injury, but for this fight my hands have been strong and I'm really looking to unleash some power punching on Nov. 3." Calzaghe detailed the various injuries he's had: "I've broken my hand a couple of times, my left hand. A wrist injury, elbow injuries. … I had three or four defenses where I couldn't spar." There was also a wrist operation that once sidelined him for several months. He went into the rescheduled March 2006 fight against Lacy with a bad wrist and into the October 2006 defense against Sakio Bika with a bum left hand. That hand has given him problems for years. "From about 14 to 15 years old I have had a really bad, sort of dodgy, left hand," said Calzaghe, a southpaw whose money punch is his left. "Sometimes it goes, sometimes it doesn't. I've probably fractured it about three times in fights. Basically, I've busted it up, bruised it up in a lot of fights. This is one of the things that's boxing. At the end of the day, you put the 10 ounces on, you land a good punch, it goes." maybe its cause calz doesnt know how to throw a punch Yeah, than must be it. Doesn't matter if Eubank says he hits hard as ****, or if Jones says the "slaps" hurt much more than he thought, but "Pullcounter" from a boxing forum obviously knows more than both these vets. http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/32619/1e4d08bc492f6a3d829d6d9531b1ecb8-getty-box-calzaghe-jones.jpg 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

"I've had hand trouble since I was 14, but everything's been perfect this time," said Calzaghe. "I've been able to spar properly, so I'm relaxed, confident and ready. maybe its cause calz doesnt know how to throw a punch

Here's one source for it. I'll see if I can find more. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7069703.stm "I've had hand trouble since I was 14, but everything's been perfect this time," said Calzaghe. "I've been able to spar properly, so I'm relaxed, confident and ready. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

any proof? or did joe tell you that on your date with him? Is that the best you can come up with, you immature little twat? i know he has hand problems, i wanna know where it says at 14 a doctor told him he would never be able to fight again because of his hands, seems like total bullshit So what the **** would I gain from lying and making something like that up? :lol1: I'm pretty sure I either read it or saw it in a documentary, of which I've seen maybe 3 or 4. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

that has nothing to do with the fact that he fought no one. he could cement his legacy now by fighter better fighters. but he retires. hatton built his record then came over to america and fought reall legit fighters. So unbelievably ignorant. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Thats the things. He doesnt Personally i dont look into the Lightheavyweight fights too much, but at 168 he was totally dominant for over a decade. Im going to guess you havent been watching boxing for too long (or maybe not anything outside of America), so maybe you dont know that much about his opponents at super middleweight. But even so, you must have been watching long enough to have watched the Kessler fight. Or was he just a bum too.

Mayweather never won those belts this thread is not to compare mayweather to calzaghe. Mayweather had alot better opposition..

this thread is not t

the man cleaned his division out..... that has nothing to do with the fact that he fought no one. he could cement his legacy now by fighter better fighters. but he retires. hatton built his record then came over to america and fought reall legit fighters.

Being undefeated means fouck all, as Paul spadafora shows. Calzaghe on the other hand is the only fighter along with floyd Mayweather who has won the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, two ring belts at two different weights AND remained undefeated. Find another undefeated fighter who has done that, you inbred yank. Mayweather never won those belts

Yet another lame Calzaghe hate thread, the worrying thing is that some morons on this site actually believe that Joe was garbage and doesnt have a legit win. Thats the things. He doesnt

Yet another lame Calzaghe hate thread, the worrying thing is that some morons on this site actually believe that Joe was garbage and doesnt have a legit win.

i know he has hand problems, i wanna know where it says at 14 a doctor told him he would never be able to fight again because of his hands, seems like total bullshit It might have been his autobiography or that documentry on him on youtube when he was an amateur.

any proof? or did joe tell you that on your date with him? It's true though, Joe has hand problems several times postponed big paydays, broken his left hand in the middle of a fight and fought with his right hand the entire fight. If you break your hand because of punching and it so happens that your job is punching other people in the face then chances are your going to be in alot of pain punching the same way your broke your hands, no?

But you see where i'm coming from, against someone like Hopkins it was sort of necassary. And it's arm punching he very rarely hits with the open part of the glove but he still does it sometimes. It has to be counted as they are still getting hit as unpleasent to eye as it may seem. Seriously though, I believe Joe slaps becuase his hands are soo screwed, and it's become habit, you cannot be as effective slapping against normal opponents arm punching as you can using techincally correct punching That's exactly what it is. It's gotten much worse over the recent years but the hand injuries go back to age 13 or 14. Apparently, back then, he was told by a doctor he should never be able to fight again. At only age 14! FFS, some people need to cut the dude some slack. I'd like to see them break their strongest hand then go fight anyone, never mind 46 professional boxers and remain undefeated doing it. Sure his style doesn't suit everyone, but he gets credit from me for even being able to adapt and keep winning. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

I really hate that style of so called punching. It shouldn't be counted in my opinion, Collazo was tryin to do the same shit against Berto. The line has be drawn somewhere But you see where i'm coming from, against someone like Hopkins it was sort of necassary. And it's arm punching he very rarely hits with the open part of the glove but he still does it sometimes. It has to be counted as they are still getting hit as unpleasent to eye as it may seem. Seriously though, I believe Joe slaps becuase his hands are soo screwed, and it's become habit, you cannot be as effective slapping against normal opponents arm punching as you can using techincally correct punching

calzaghe is an amatuer boxer, fact, when he was in his prime, he was the dirtiest fighter ever, only in england/wales would they let you hold someones head down through out the whole fight, now(that he has brittle hands from bad punching form) all he does is touch you more than you touch him while blinding you with flurries im being serious, and im no hater of any fighter OK, so tell us, who's head did he hold down for an entire fight? I'm interested to know, because I have seen every Calzaghe fight barring maybe one or two earlier ones. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3